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New Ford Duallys are 6+ months out?

This was 1,100 miles towing a 17k load with 4.30 gears. F250.
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That's nearly the same as my diesel I bet but gas is much cheaper than diesel...
 
If that's any accurate at all, 8mpg would pencil out ok. Right now I get 11mpg with diesel (5.9L). Current prices gasser would cost ~7 cents more a mile. Or about $100 more a week, so $400/mo... $4800/yr more in fuel.

It's either spend $60k and try to play the tax game. Or build a truck for $20k and keep buying 'assets' to lessen my tax burden.

Next year I need to source another truck.
Really? Gas is so much cheaper it would seem to have to be much worse mpg to not break even. The additional price for the engine new has to make up for a lot.
 
Really? Gas is so much cheaper it would seem to have to be much worse mpg to not break even. The additional price for the engine new has to make up for a lot.

Local QT:

Gas - 3.49
Diesel - 3.99

It's been fluctuating 20 cents the past few weeks. Another thought is a play super trucker with a 36ft and use the fuel island. Where it will be a PITA to hit gas pumps besides bucees.

I'm not comparing new vs new. I'll never consider a new powerjoke. It's either dropping money on a new 7.3L (the only logical new choice) or rebuild a 5.9L Dodge to my liking.
 
best unloaded was 15, 14 typical. worst was 5.8 pulling the 36' pintal hitch trailer with 2 hummers. the wind drag was crazy on that one. that is driving 80 plus.
So much humble brag in this thread…towing 80+ …shit so many damn people and cars in this state lucky to even get up to 80., staying at 80 for any duration is nigh impossible.
 
So much humble brag in this thread…towing 80+ …shit so many damn people and cars in this state lucky to even get up to 80., staying at 80 for any duration is nigh impossible.
i drive 80 plus every day, trailer or not. and it is no problem towing 80 plus west and north of DFW. hell i go 80 through downtown Ft Worth and get passed all the time.
 
I played around building that truck. I don't care about nanny shit but wanted pto and a few other real truck things.

About the same price, so no.
What you run off the PTO?
How much does it run to get the PTO etc. Up and running?
 
So hypothetically, if somebody orders the exact same new truck from two different dealerships and then cancels whichever one gets built second is Ford going to notice? Dealerships I’m talking to don’t seem to care if I cancel since it’s going to arrive months from now. They’ll just put it in inventory and sell it to somebody else.
 
So hypothetically, if somebody orders the exact same new truck from two different dealerships and then cancels whichever one gets built second is Ford going to notice? Dealerships I’m talking to don’t seem to care if I cancel since it’s going to arrive months from now. They’ll just put it in inventory and sell it to somebody else.
I don't think Ford care cares but they do enter your name into the system when you order and every truck that is ordered takes away from the dealers allotment. I think this allotment and the negotiated price effect the timeline for the orders.
They say it doesn't, I don't buy it...

IMO if you negotiated a good/great price with the intent to wait I don't see why you would double up. If you are getting MSRP or market adjustment bullshit then sure spread it around.
 
So hypothetically, if somebody orders the exact same new truck from two different dealerships and then cancels whichever one gets built second is Ford going to notice? Dealerships I’m talking to don’t seem to care if I cancel since it’s going to arrive months from now. They’ll just put it in inventory and sell it to somebody else.
A guy I work with did this exact thing with a F250 FX4. They were going to charge him a restocking fee or something, so he just sold one of them and said pretty much broke even.
 
So hypothetically, if somebody orders the exact same new truck from two different dealerships and then cancels whichever one gets built second is Ford going to notice? Dealerships I’m talking to don’t seem to care if I cancel since it’s going to arrive months from now. They’ll just put it in inventory and sell it to somebody else.

Until dealers are forced to take inventory they don't want, having people order vehicles is a benefit to them. Especially if you order something that will be easy to sell. Not sure of all details, but based on a convo I had with my dealer when we got my wife's car, it provided them a way to get more inventory above and beyond what the manufacturers were sending.
 
When I ordered my truck in January, they put it in writing I was under no obligation to purchase upon it's arrival. They said if I didn't want it, someone else would.
7.3 update- 30XX miles and no complaints. Just returned from a 400 mile road trip (no towing) with a 60/40 mix of interstate and 2 lane. Hand calculated 14.7 MPG.
 
When I ordered my truck in January, they put it in writing I was under no obligation to purchase upon it's arrival. They said if I didn't want it, someone else would.
7.3 update- 30XX miles and no complaints. Just returned from a 400 mile road trip (no towing) with a 60/40 mix of interstate and 2 lane. Hand calculated 14.7 MPG.
That's better mpg than my 2016 Cummings HO ever got.
 
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