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New Ford Duallys are 6+ months out?

Aggie06 said:
You can read those stories about any brand. Pretty sure it comes down to luck of the draw and to a certain degree maintenance.
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Ain't that the truth.
This is a guy on Instagram that a month ago was really jazzed about replacing his Chevy with a GMC, it hasn't been all roses for him.
I may have teased him about getting a Ford a few months back 😂


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I thought maybe once Ranchhand or Road Armor started making bumpers and brush guards for those that they'd be able to mask some of the fetal alcohol syndrome nature of that front end...

Nope. Fugliest front end ever produced. Jesus, how do you get past that afterbirth long enough to write the check?
 
Bacchus said:
I thought maybe once Ranchhand or Road Armor started making bumpers and brush guards for those that they'd be able to mask some of the fetal alcohol syndrome nature of that front end...

Nope. Fugliest front end ever produced. Jesus, how do you get past that afterbirth long enough to write the check?
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They're all ugly, overcomplicated, and overpriced.
 
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My younger brother has a 22 F250 that he ordered and took delivery of on Nov 21, and that truck has given him so much more trouble over his 15 that it replaced. They cannot convince the truck to roll straight down the road. Once he got his hands on it he did the bumpers / lift / new toyos deal in the first 1500 miles with a new steering stabilizer and control arms to keep his "geometry correct".

Going down the road at highway speeds it will violently dart around, and feels like every correction is way too much. He pulled a fuse for the backup trailer assist that last time he had his camper behind him, and said it tracks way better but he loses a lot of other features and it makes low-speed turning very difficult. Over the last 20K miles he's pulled all the aftermarket and returned it to stock and let the Ford dealer align it, still has issues tracking.

He's having some hail damage fixed and I'm fairly certain he's headed to the GM dealer, and I'm questioning replacing my 2019 with another Ford.
 
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inthefield said:
My younger brother has a 22 F250 that he ordered and took delivery of on Nov 21, and that truck has given him so much more trouble over his 15 that it replaced. They cannot convince the truck to roll straight down the road. Once he got his hands on it he did the bumpers / lift / new toyos deal in the first 1500 miles with a new steering stabilizer and control arms to keep his "geometry correct".

Going down the road at highway speeds it will violently dart around, and feels like every correction is way too much. He pulled a fuse for the backup trailer assist that last time he had his camper behind him, and said it tracks way better but he loses a lot of other features and it makes low-speed turning very difficult. Over the last 20K miles he's pulled all the aftermarket and returned it to stock and let the Ford dealer align it, still has issues tracking.

He's having some hail damage fixed and I'm fairly certain he's headed to the GM dealer, and I'm questioning replacing my 2019 with another Ford.
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Does that thing have the adaptive steering? If he pulled a fuse and that fixed a lot of it but it turned worse on low speed, that would be where I would look. Also, did he put new track bar in it when he did the lift along with the caster shims? Even a 1.5" lift can throw the front axle off center and with that adaptive steering I bet the computer thinks it's constantly turning.
 
westracing01 said:
Does that thing have the adaptive steering? If he pulled a fuse and that fixed a lot of it but it turned worse on low speed, that would be where I would look. Also, did he put new track bar in it when he did the lift along with the caster shims? Even a 1.5" lift can throw the front axle off center and with that adaptive steering I bet the computer thinks it's constantly turning.
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This.
My wife drove my 22 one day and accidentally turned on the adaptive steering/lane control shit. It was constantly correcting and acting erratic until I realized what was going on.
 
JTreadway said:
This.
My wife drove my 22 one day and accidentally turned on the adaptive steering/lane control shit. It was constantly correcting and acting erratic until I realized what was going on.
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I was in a rental Nissan Rogue last week for about 5 hours and it was jerking the car around trying to center us in the lane until that "feature" got turned off.

Aaron Z
 
I made sure to not order the lariat ultimate package which has all of that additional bullshit included. If you cant be hassled to drive your vehicle anymore without lane keep assist or trailer backup assist, maybe you should stop driving.
 
Adaptive steering was not included in the 22 lariat ultimate package and I made sure to not order it. Other people love adaptive steering tho.
 
gunracer1 said:
i didn't order it on my 22 platinum. but i would like to try out gm's super cruise on an escalade or denali.
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The Blue cruise on the F150's looks awesome from the videos I have seen but in all honesty that's a feature I can probably do with out because the "minor" errors the current crop of adaptive lane assist have makes me want to pull all the wires out of it every time it tries to run me into a guard rail.
 
We don't have it on our '22 450, but we do have lane keep assist. It is not lane correction however. All it does is vibrate the wheel if you drop the outside dually over the line. I actually like that feature. It's not intrusive unlike most of the other ones I've driven. I originally didn't want it, but since we had to order an XLT to get the power driver seat for the wife, the XLT's all come with it.

Blue Cruise and all that other shit that steers itself down the road... No thanks.
 
My '22 has the adaptive steering. It was so bad that about an hour away from the dealership I called my wife to tell her i was contemplating taking the truck back because it was all over the road and the steering wheel shook violently constantly. Once I disabled it all was right with the world
 
Fl-Krawler said:
My '22 has the adaptive steering. It was so bad that about an hour away from the dealership I called my wife to tell her i was contemplating taking the truck back because it was all over the road and the steering wheel shook violently constantly. Once I disabled it all was right with the world
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I don't have it on my 22, but my wifes 2020 Hyundai Palisade has the lane correction, I find it very annoying.

CarterKraft said:
Ain't that the truth.
This is a guy on Instagram that a month ago was really jazzed about replacing his Chevy with a GMC, it hasn't been all roses for him.
I may have teased him about getting a Ford a few months back 😂


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My Brother in-law got a fully loaded Gm Denali Dually, ordered it in, took forever to get, and when it did come in it was missing the computers for a bunch of things. Took about a year to get most of the computers, but the computer for his rear heated seats I believe, still hasn't come, and GM cut him a check, so i guess he is never getting it.
 
Pook said:
I don't have it on my 22, but my wifes 2020 Hyundai Palisade has the lane correction, I find it very annoying.



My Brother in-law got a fully loaded Gm Denali Dually, ordered it in, took forever to get, and when it did come in it was missing the computers for a bunch of things. Took about a year to get most of the computers, but the computer for his rear heated seats I believe, still hasn't come, and GM cut him a check, so i guess he is never getting it.
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Yeah they seemed to have a lot of shortages that didn't keep them from shipping trucks they just didn't have those features.
 
westracing01 said:
Does that thing have the adaptive steering? If he pulled a fuse and that fixed a lot of it but it turned worse on low speed, that would be where I would look. Also, did he put new track bar in it when he did the lift along with the caster shims? Even a 1.5" lift can throw the front axle off center and with that adaptive steering I bet the computer thinks it's constantly turning.
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I went over his order options with him and the three that he for sure ordered without were the sunroof, factory gooseneck, and adaptive steering. It has to have some sort of electronic assist on the steering regardless of that to make that ridiculous trailer backup assist work. He keeps the lane assist turned off, and when he lifted it the trackbar and shims were replaced to correct front axle placement. The placement was then verified by him what I believe to be 1000 times thanks to him being an OCD mechanical engineer.

The most marked improvement he had made was when he finally browbeat the dealer into replacing the original track bar, and steering stabilizer under warranty. He said it cleaned it up some unloaded, but with a trailer it was still a wild ride.
 
Huh... Dunno then. Bad tire? I mean if all that other shit ain't it, what's left? Bad tire, bent axle, bad bushings in the radius arms?
 
westracing01 said:
Huh... Dunno then. Bad tire? I mean if all that other shit ain't it, what's left? Bad tire, bent axle, bad bushings in the radius arms?
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That’s where I’m at, I don’t think he’ll get any kind of resolution. The stock tires from it are on my 19 and it tracks like it’s on rails.

As much time as he’s put into it, he’s better off taking the hit and moving on.
 
I don't have time to type it all out now but our company has 6+ international/Chevrolet CV trucks that I know of now that have a wicked vibration at 60+ mph, like throw your drink out of the cup holder wicked. It's not just confined to the international flavor the Chevrolets have the same problem.

We have replaced wheels, tires, cab mounts, shocks, shock mounts, and drive shafts.

I've been told you can't run Goodyear steer tires, my front wheels are bent (both sides) you can't run 3 piece driveshaft, the tires have to be road force balanced, the tires are too small and on and on.

International doesn't have a clue wtf is wrong, they put a vibration analyzer on it and then report the findings to International who tells them literally what nut/bolt to touch.

I've broke a laptop screen and a coolant reservoir level gauge from the driving with the vibration for less than 10k miles.

What's weird is I have 71k miles on it now and they fixed it at 2500 miles by replacing the continental tires with Michelin and road force balance them.
6 New Goodyear tires at 62k miles and it's pandemonium...

The tire shop has checked for bent wheels, road force balanced 3 times, vibrated beads and the last time replaced the front tires with zero improvement.

There is a rumour the flex of the beam front axle is causing oscillations...
 
inthefield said:
That’s where I’m at, I don’t think he’ll get any kind of resolution. The stock tires from it are on my 19 and it tracks like it’s on rails.

As much time as he’s put into it, he’s better off taking the hit and moving on.
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I mean if it's darting around loaded, does it have a broke leaf or a broke rear shock? I drove a car in college with a broke right rear shock that made bumpy highways an adventure.

Ubolts on the leaf tight? I'm grasping at straws as most of this is so unlikely it's ridiculous.

Our 450 wanders a bit but that the garbage Conti tires. There's got to be a reason and it's probably something obvious/stupid that you'd never think of.
 
CarterKraft said:
What's weird is I have 71k miles on it now and they fixed it at 2500 miles by replacing the continental tires with Michelin and road force balance them.
6 New Goodyear tires at 62k miles and it's pandemonium...

The tire shop has checked for bent wheels, road force balanced 3 times, vibrated beads and the last time replaced the front tires with zero improvement.

There is a rumour the flex of the beam front axle is causing oscillations...
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Why not go back to the Michelins if they fixed the issues at 2,500 miles?
 
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