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New Ford Duallys are 6+ months out?

TrikeKid said:
Recalls were constant before coof too, part quality has gone to complete shit in the last 10 years or so. Half my workload as a Ford tech in '15-17 was recall bullshit, when we weren't fixing dumb warranty shit caused by the assembly monkeys.

At least one of the door latch recalls I was doing then, the replacement parts also sucked so they recalled the repair parts from the previous recall.
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I hate when they recall the recall.:lmao:
 
CarterKraft said:
Well well well
If y'all are following along at home that sounds like a 11-12 month wait...
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Are you still wanting it after all this time? Still think you’ll be able to make money on the one you’re going to be selling when this one comes in?
 
JR4X said:
Are you still wanting it after all this time? Still think you’ll be able to make money on the one you’re going to be selling when this one comes in?
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By the time he gets it, interest rates will be around 7% and we'll be solidly in a depression. Not seeing a lot demand for 2 years old dually with a $1500 payment
 
Texas97 said:
By the time he gets it, interest rates will be around 7% and we'll be solidly in a depression. Not seeing a lot demand for 2 years old dually with a $1500 payment
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That’s why I’m asking. What was a sure bet a year ago is rapidly becoming a sure losing proposition. And he’s several more months out.
 
gunracer1 said:
i have not got any recalls on my 22.
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Software for the brake controller and wiper arms not having the correct depth of splines to the linkage. I forgot there is a third one where the tail gate comes open going down the road but that one only gets fixed if it actually happens to you.
 
JR4X said:
Are you still wanting it after all this time? Still think you’ll be able to make money on the one you’re going to be selling when this one comes in?
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It's definitely going to depend on some factors, interest, trade etc.
Technically I think I can get the loan today, since I have a VIN. That will lock in a 3.14%.

If I can still get high 60's low 70's for my truck then it will be a go still.
If something changes I will re-evaluate everything.
 
Texas97 said:
By the time he gets it, interest rates will be around 7% and we'll be solidly in a depression. Not seeing a lot demand for 2 years old dually with a $1500 payment
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Again though if you NEED a dually your new options are pretty limited.
My electrical contractor buddy just bought two more trucks/vans and both his commercial loans are over 7% now.
 
Not that this is a indication of actual retail prices but there are 15 trucks on autotrader in the US, all the lariats are lariat value package
but otherwise similar to my truck under 45k miles. The asking prices are over $70k still.
We will see what the dealers trade in offer is, that will probably have an effect as much as anything as I am not sure how much patience I will have for selling privately.
I can check CarMax etc. for prices when it gets closer.

 
CarterKraft said:
Again though if you NEED a dually your new options are pretty limited.
My electrical contractor buddy just bought two more trucks/vans and both his commercial loans are over 7% now.
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Only if it needs to be 4wd, a pickup and a bajillion horsetorks.

2wd dually cab and chassis vans are readily available.
 
1oddtech said:
Software for the brake controller and wiper arms not having the correct depth of splines to the linkage. I forgot there is a third one where the tail gate comes open going down the road but that one only gets fixed if it actually happens to you.
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wipers - they recalled that recall because the new products didn't fix the issue
tailgate - not a recall. Just extended warranty for randomly opening
axle - may or may not impact 2022 vehicles... no one seems to know
windshield - i think this is the biggest issue. The claim is the primer didn't hold and the windshield can pop out. So they reset it. BUT... I think the primer they are referring to is the paint primer. So resetting the windshield to the same poorly attached primer/paint surface likely doesn't do squat.
Haven't heard about the brake controller one... but I will say the programming for the transmission on mine is HORRIBLE, especially in 3rd gear. Slow, uphill, locked in third - engine cuts out. Doesn't do that in any other gear.
 
Searching the Ford site, there are 55 dealers with in 100 miles of me that have 0 Platinum Duallys.
Using their search tool and my ordered price that puts me 5% below MSRP, or cheaper than all the Platinums and King Ranchs and cheaper than some of the Lariats. Like I said if I can get the trade in I want I will be financing $26k or so. Pending interest rate changes.
I think my plan of selling the current truck and paying off my house won't work due to the rising interest rates but I need the solid numbers before committing.


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CarterKraft said:
Interesting, those two things you mentioned have nothing to do with a dually pickup though right?
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:shaking:

If you don't need 4wd a van cab and chassis with an appropriate body will do everything a DRW pickup will do albeit potentially slightly slower depending on what kind of grade you want to pull and what engine options are available.
 
arse_sidewards said:
:shaking:

If you don't need 4wd a van cab and chassis with an appropriate body will do everything a DRW pickup will do albeit potentially slightly slower depending on what kind of grade you want to pull and what engine options are available.
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So you are saying we could have been using Vans this whole time :stirthepot:
 
CarterKraft said:
So you are saying we could have been using Vans this whole time :stirthepot:
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A good amount of people, yes. Those who only put 2 people in the cab and don't "need" 4WD have passed over this option needlessly for years. I can sill pick up used C&C E350 and E450 diesels for way less than their F-series counterparts.

Hell, you can get a base model 2023 E450 C&C starting at $37,835, yet its E450 counterpart is over $45k, both with the same 7.3 gas engine.
 
DRTDEVL said:
A good amount of people, yes. Those who only put 2 people in the cab and don't "need" 4WD have passed over this option needlessly for years. I can sill pick up used C&C E350 and E450 diesels for way less than their F-series counterparts.

Hell, you can get a base model 2023 E450 C&C starting at $37,835, yet its E450 counterpart is over $45k, both with the same 7.3 gas engine.
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But those aren't the same thing as a truck right?
I'm not saying you are wrong or anything but there is a pretty serious differences between a cutaway van and crew cab pickup.
 
CarterKraft said:
I just don't see the comparison pas that for my use. :homer:
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7.3, dually, 4.56:1, 9,000 payload capacity. The only weak part is the tow rating, as there is no tow rating specified for 5th wheel or gooseneck (most have bodies put on them that don't allow for these hitches). The bumper pull rating is only 7500 lbs. Considering the GCWR and the curb weight, a stripped-down version should be able to pull a 16,500 lb goose... but probably more, considering they never thought to add anything higher than the GVWR + bumper pull rating for the GCWR. I mean, what would the tow rating be for a 2WD 7.3 dually with 4.56 gears? Probably pretty similar (the F450 7.3 is listed at 37,000 lbs gooseneck).
 
DRTDEVL said:
7.3, dually, 4.56:1, 9,000 payload capacity. The only weak part is the tow rating, as there is no tow rating specified for 5th wheel or gooseneck (most have bodies put on them that don't allow for these hitches). The bumper pull rating is only 7500 lbs. Considering the GCWR and the curb weight, a stripped-down version should be able to pull a 16,500 lb goose... but probably more, considering they never thought to add anything higher than the GVWR + bumper pull rating for the GCWR. I mean, what would the tow rating be for a 2WD 7.3 dually with 4.56 gears? Probably pretty similar (the F450 7.3 is listed at 37,000 lbs gooseneck).
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I don't know because with 4-5 people in my party this is non-solution.

Other to say I am doing it wrong I'm not really sure why it was suggested?
These two things C&C vans and CC 4x4 pickups are not the same, not even close?
 
CarterKraft said:
I don't know because with 4-5 people in my party this is non-solution.

Other to say I am doing it wrong I'm not really sure why it was suggested?
These two things C&C vans and CC 4x4 pickups are not the same, not even close?
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They don’t get it dude, they don’t do what we do. So they can’t even imagine needing what we need. It’s GCC, every thread gets derailed with suggestions not considering all the parts of your equation.

I just flew from Albuquerque NM to greenbay Wisconsin. Rented a crew cab shortbed pickup to drive to the track. I needed to be able to haul 5 adult people. 4 37 inch tires. A jack. Quick dump fuel cans. Tools. Fire extinguisher’s. Etc. 1 round trip ticket, and to rent a pickup for 4 days cost me more than a months truck payment plus full coverage insurance for a better truck would have.

Don’t let people who do nothing convince you that you’re doing something wrong.
 
I was looking at the van specs and had to laugh on this one..

Standard Items:
Steering Wheel and Steering Column

:lmao:
 
JR4X said:
They don’t get it dude, they don’t do what we do. So they can’t even imagine needing what we need. It’s GCC, every thread gets derailed with suggestions not considering all the parts of your equation.

I just flew from Albuquerque NM to greenbay Wisconsin. Rented a crew cab shortbed pickup to drive to the track. I needed to be able to haul 5 adult people. 4 37 inch tires. A jack. Quick dump fuel cans. Tools. Fire extinguisher’s. Etc. 1 round trip ticket, and to rent a pickup for 4 days cost me more than a months truck payment plus full coverage insurance for a better truck would have.

Don’t let people who do nothing convince you that you’re doing something wrong.
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Uhaul and 3 people ride in the box huddled around a Mr Buddy heater. :laughing:
 
CarterKraft said:
I don't know because with 4-5 people in my party this is non-solution.

Other to say I am doing it wrong I'm not really sure why it was suggested?
These two things C&C vans and CC 4x4 pickups are not the same, not even close?
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And where, prior to this, did you say you had to have seating for 4-5 people?

That is why I specifically worded my statement as "A good amount of people, yes. Those who only put 2 people in the cab and don't "need" 4WD have passed over this option needlessly for years."
 
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