Major Bridge in Baltimore Collapses After Being Struck by Cargo Ship

[KacksterK5]

Yep, she's sitting on the bottom. My understanding is that they have gotten enough weight off of her to pump some of the ballast tanks and get her re-floated, theoretically. They had a timeline of a few days after they get all the shit off the bow. she's then supposed to be towed back into the port for unloading and whatever it takes to get her back moving again. The crew are still onboard, haven't left.

I rode down there today and took a good look. She's still there.

 

[redneckengineered]

I find that super interesting. 21 guys have been on board for 49 days. I don't have any idea about the laws of disembarking in another country and how all that works but that's crazy to me. Also, I wonder how their wages are being handled. Is there a such thing as overtime on a boat?

As work continues to remove cargo ship from collapsed Baltimore bridge, what about its crew?

Demolition crews in Baltimore have set off explosives to push broken pieces of a bridge away from the grounded Dali container ship.

apnews.com

 

[2big bronco]

I find that super interesting. 21 guys have been on board for 49 days. I don't have any idea about the laws of disembarking in another country and how all that works but that's crazy to me. Also, I wonder how their wages are being handled. Is there a such thing as overtime on a boat?

As work continues to remove cargo ship from collapsed Baltimore bridge, what about its crew?

Demolition crews in Baltimore have set off explosives to push broken pieces of a bridge away from the grounded Dali container ship.

apnews.com

I was wondering if they have some strange rule about only getting paid while the ship is underway... similar to pilots getting the shaft while they are sitting on the runway for hours waiting for shit to happen.

 

[bad zuki]

One of the news articles I read said something along the lines of they are the best trained crew to operate the vessel, since that is their vessel.

Operate, not drive.

 

[Grnjp92]

Probably the crew has no visas, so they are stuck.

 

[Sceep]

Probably the crew has no visas, so they are stuck.

sooo... no different than if they were docked, or at sea?

Other than the construction and explosions and not bobbing up and down that is.

 

[bgaidan]

I find that super interesting. 21 guys have been on board for 49 days. I don't have any idea about the laws of disembarking in another country and how all that works but that's crazy to me. Also, I wonder how their wages are being handled. Is there a such thing as overtime on a boat?

As work continues to remove cargo ship from collapsed Baltimore bridge, what about its crew?

Demolition crews in Baltimore have set off explosives to push broken pieces of a bridge away from the grounded Dali container ship.

apnews.com

No clue where they were in their schedule at the time, but they're generally aboard for months at a time so it's possible they're not much beyond a normal tour. One of the vids I watched this morning said there are reports that there will be a crew change once they get it floating and moved back to the port.

 

[Grnjp92]

sooo... no different than if they were docked, or at sea?

Other than the construction and explosions and not bobbing up and down that is.

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sooo... no different than if they were docked, or at sea?

Other than the construction and explosions and not bobbing up and down that is.

Probably. They are stuck.

 

[Grnjp92]

No clue where they were in their schedule at the time, but they're generally aboard for months at a time so it's possible they're not much beyond a normal tour. One of the vids I watched this morning said there are reports that there will be a crew change once they get it floating and moved back to the port.

My family runs a business in southeast Asia, I think it's called bunkering? They provide the food, fuel, and the crew never touches ground

 

[clodhopper]

Moving or not, most of these ships have about the same maintenance and operation tasks. I spent an afternoon talking with a merchant mariner who mans a supply ship of US war material that just sits in the pacific waiting for a war to start. Almost never moves. The only position that doesnt have much to do when not moving is the navigator. Everyone else, it is just a normal day, doing normal things. He said you may be in one place with the same thing to look at for way too long, but the option is being out in the open ocean with nuthin at all to look at.

 

[XtremeJ]

This may still apply

Ship and airline crews do not operate on work or tourist visas. They have specific crew visas
Essentiallly it means they must depart on the same vessel they arrived on. So a problem if you fly in as crew on your crew visa and then leave to say the Bahamas’s for a week (nearly had some mates deported from the US because of this)

For maritime there is a very strong chance these crew do not have visas of any sort, in which case they are prohibited from leaving the ship while it is in port. This means, unless they get dispensation, they cannot get off the ship and take a flight home.

At one point I had crew visa, work visa and tourist visa for the US. I became better versed in immigration law than most immigration officers. Learned this the hard way, checked into the USVI on my crew visa (was the captain of a charter yacht) then put the boat into a shipyard and was headed to Miami to pick up another yacht for delivery. The INS sure were not happy about me attempting to depart on a commercial flight as a passenger after entering on a crew visa. I kindly explained I could not solve the problem by departing on the yacht I arrived on as it was in the midst and f a tear down. But if he liked I could sneak out “illegally” and come back on a tourist visa if he really wanted. Somehow he saw sense and let me depart.

 

[Grnjp92]

This may still apply

Ship and airline crews do not operate on work or tourist visas. They have specific crew visas
Essentiallly it means they must depart on the same vessel they arrived on. So a problem if you fly in as crew on your crew visa and then leave to say the Bahamas’s for a week (nearly had some mates deported from the US because of this)

For maritime there is a very strong chance these crew do not have visas of any sort, in which case they are prohibited from leaving the ship while it is in port. This means, unless they get dispensation, they cannot get off the ship and take a flight home.

At one point I had crew visa, work visa and tourist visa for the US. I became better versed in immigration law than most immigration officers. Learned this the hard way, checked into the USVI on my crew visa (was the captain of a charter yacht) then put the boat into a shipyard and was headed to Miami to pick up another yacht for delivery. The INS sure were not happy about me attempting to depart on a commercial flight as a passenger after entering on a crew visa. I kindly explained I could not solve the problem by departing on the yacht I arrived on as it was in the midst and f a tear down. But if he liked I could sneak out “illegally” and come back on a tourist visa if he really wanted. Somehow he saw sense and let me depart.

Yup. You ain't getting a visa to touch ground. There was a crew somewhere in the mideast that had no way to get home. Something about insurance.

 

[bigun]

Yup. You ain't getting a visa to touch ground. There was a crew somewhere in the mideast that had no way to get home. Something about insurance.

IIRC it was one guy the engineer who was stuck on the ship. He was swimming into shore every few days to charge his phone and get food. I can't remember what the holdup was, but everyone else bailed. Left him there, I think they finally got the government to let them bring someone else in to take over, so he could go home

 

[Grnjp92]

IIRC it was one guy the engineer who was stuck on the ship. He was swimming into shore every few days to charge his phone and get food. I can't remember what the holdup was, but everyone else bailed. Left him there, I think they finally got the government to let them bring someone else in to take over, so he could go home

That sounds right. Poor guy should have swam to shore and just started walking.

 

[GM Guy]

Guy who was stranded on a ship;

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.6002269/after-nearly-4-years-stranded-on-cargo-ship-in-egypt-a-syrian-crew-member-finally-goes-home-1.6002473

 

[bigun]

 

[Motorcharge]

Probably the crew has no visas, so they are stuck.

We let millions of illegals just walk right in with zero ID but we can't let a handful of documented workers off a damn boat that's been wrecked? Fucking clown world.

 

[ridered3]

We let millions of illegals just walk right in with zero ID but we can't let a handful of documented workers off a damn boat that's been wrecked? Fucking clown world.

As with many .gov things, “it makes sense if you don’t think about it.”

 

[frank c]

That's a good YT channel. Very informative.

 

[bigun]

 

[mrblaine]

My family runs a business in southeast Asia, I think it's called bunkering? They provide the food, fuel, and the crew never touches ground

They may load food at the same time but the origin is due to the fuel cargo ships use being called bunker or bunker oil, the process of refueling is called bunkering. But, as with most things, the accuracy gets very diluted over time and now they even refer to refueling LNG ships as bunkering. Another month or two and anything that moves on or off the ship will be referred to as bunkering.

 

[bigun]

 

[bigun]

 

[Sparkmechanic]

We let millions of illegals just walk right in with zero ID but we can't let a handful of documented workers off a damn boat that's been wrecked? Fucking clown world.

The VISA that they have DOES NOT allow entry into the USA.

 

[bigun]

The VISA that they have DOES NOT allow entry into the USA.

I think I heard they are planning on taking the crew off and sending them home

 

[bigun]

 

[bigun]

About 5 hrs in it starts movement

 

[bigun]

 

[bigun]

 

[bigun]