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Major Bridge in Baltimore Collapses After Being Struck by Cargo Ship

Landslide said:
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Dali owners deny fault for Baltimore bridge collapse and demand lawsuits be capped at price of the boat

Singapore-based Grace Ocean Private Ltd., the owner of the Dali cargo ship, and Synergy Marine Pte Ltd., the ship’s manager, filed a petition in federal court on Monday denying any fault or neglect…
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No shock there. They set those up with about 37 different "responsible parties/owners/operators" so that there's no way to really pin legal liability on any one entity.
 
Landslide said:
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Dali owners deny fault for Baltimore bridge collapse and demand lawsuits be capped at price of the boat

Singapore-based Grace Ocean Private Ltd., the owner of the Dali cargo ship, and Synergy Marine Pte Ltd., the ship’s manager, filed a petition in federal court on Monday denying any fault or neglect…
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Lloyd's has already come out and said it's going to be a multi billion dollar loss for them, but they can afford it because they had $10 billion dollars in profit last year.... :eek:
 
RusM said:
but they can afford it because they had $10 billion dollars in profit last year.... :eek:
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Which is a really dumb thing to say because it'll just make the .gov try harder to get it.

But I guess when you're Lloyds you DGAF because the governments you have in your pocket will just force people to buy more of your product.
 
i thought Biden said the US government was paying for 100% of it.
 
bgaidan said:
I've seen some vids of people getting absolutely launched out of a manlift basket without a harness. Then can turn in to giant catapults under the right conditions. Then again, people with the wrong lanyard can get equally fucked up. A 6' lanyard can turn you in to a human pendulum, smacking everything in the way if you get tossed out. Still almost always better than no being tied off. I'm a fan of retractables or a waste positioner if you're working out of the basket and don't need to be moving around a lot.

When they were building the new Cooper River Bridge in Charleston, SC in the early 2000's, an iron worker who apparently had been reprimanded for not tieing off weeks before, took a fall off the one of the main spans in to the water. He probably could have survived the fall but he didn't stand a chance with the heavy ass tool belt around his waste. :shaking: From what I heard the company dodged most of the liability because they proved that he had been properly trained and had been warned more than once about not being tied off.
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A guy dies at the local paper mill a few years back because he didn’t tie off to a man lift. He had the harness on but not hooked to the cage. Was driving the lift to access a spot and drove over a 6-8” curb. Tossed him right out of the basket and landed on his head, was dead right on the spot.
 
arse_sidewards said:
If we just shot everyone who said safety rules are written in blood we'd probably spill less blood over the long term because dumb shit wouldn't stick around.
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There is a middle ground between this lunacy ^ and the lunacy of the clipboard and safety glasses guys. Common sense is required to find that ground and that is in short supply lately.
 
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If we just shot everyone who said safety rules are written in blood we'd probably spill less blood over the long term because dumb shit wouldn't stick around.
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The reality is most of the "safety is common sense" and "don't be a dumbass" guys turn around and instantly sue the company for neglect to get a pay day, sorry compensation to be made whole, after they get hurt. That's where 99% of the safety bs comes from, not osha. The reaction from that is rules to lessen the companies exposure to that. I focus on OSHA stuff like 2% of my time out of the year, the rest of the time is processes and procedures so people don't get hurt, driving inefficieny and also don't make WC claims.

Inb4 everyone's starts posting up about how they fell off a roof at work and worked for the next month with a broken foot stories, but the reality is what I posted above.

Clipboard safety dorks annoy me as well, but they also make it easy to get a job if you are the slightest bit personable.
 
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Slander said:
The reality is most of the "safety is common sense" and "don't be a dumbass" guys turn around and instantly sue the company for neglect to get a pay day, sorry compensation to be made whole, after they get hurt. That's where 99% of the safety bs comes from, not osha. The reaction from that is rules to lessen the companies exposure to that. I focus on OSHA stuff like 2% of my time out of the year, the rest of the time is processes and procedures so people don't get hurt, driving inefficieny and also don't make WC claims.

Inb4 everyone's starts posting up about how they fell off a roof at work and worked for the next month with a broken foot stories, but the reality is what I posted above.

Clipboard safety dorks annoy me as well, but they also make it easy to get a job if you are the slightest bit personable.
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I'm not disagreeing with you.

I'm saying that if we shot all of your coworkers and the safety shills who pretend like the rules are there to prevent death and not to prevent idiots from using stacked milk crates as a step stool we'd be able to peel back a lot that bullshit.

Nobody likes those idiots but the safety industry protects them by pretending they're not the problem.
 
arse_sidewards said:
I'm not disagreeing with you.

I'm saying that if we shot all of your coworkers and the safety shills who pretend like the rules are there to prevent death and not to prevent idiots from using stacked milk crates as a step stool we'd be able to peel back a lot that bullshit.

Nobody likes those idiots but the safety industry protects them by pretending they're not the problem.
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I would agree with that. The positive is there are movements within the industry to weed out those pudwhackers, unfortunately it's not coming soon enough.
 
^^^ That barge ain't fully loaded. That size can carry about 100K barrels. Mebbe more. Maxxed it would have about one foot freeboard.
 
realsquash said:
Not exactly - Indians lie lie lie about anything and everything in order to get ahead. They even lie about small, inconsequential things. They can't help themselves. When US companies put an Indian in a management position they do everything they can to replace everyone with Indians. Don't put all other Asians in the same category...
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Joe Biden is Indian?
 
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