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Major Bridge in Baltimore Collapses After Being Struck by Cargo Ship

Sandy Johnson said:
Co-pilot kinda gets it
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Econoline grille swap is too clean - that's fauxtina'd & headed to Burning Man, not a methmobile :flipoff2:
 
ExWrench said:
Econoline grille swap is too clean - that's fauxtina'd & headed to Burning Man, not a methmobile :flipoff2:
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Good call on the grille. I think if you took some chunks out of there, or pulled it completely, and busted out some windows to replace with either blue tarp, duct tape and carboard, or that silver insulator stuff, it'd be dialed.

I guess it could also use at least one low tire to complete the look.
 
JD Mark said:
Like I said earlier...within mere hours the FBI stated it was not malicious, purely an accident.

There was absolutely NO way for them to have performed even a cursory investigation at that point.

I know, they're trying to keep people from panicking...but to categorically state that seems awfully strange.
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Come on man if it was a malicious attack, the FBI would’ve known about it ahead of time and still done nothing to stop it, it’s like you don’t know how conspiracy theories work.
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
So, my stupid question...

Choke the sections and tow to shore, with shore mounted winches and/or boats?

Probably can't because of submerged power/fiber optic cables and pipes and other infrastructure I guess.
Also probably not a good shoreline to use, like those shipbreaking beaches in Bangladesh?

Ignoring the damage to those infrastructure, could it be done?
Would the pieces mostly hold together?
Would it be cheaper/safer/easier than cranes and cutting in place?

I wonder if those ship cutting chains could be used to cut in place, or if the steel is too thick/strong...
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You'd have to really lighten up what each piece weighed or it would dig in the mud and play anchor.

Those big ship cutting chains need to cut up because what makes them move would be on the surface. So you'd need to get a messenger line under the whole mess first. Then pull the chain under. What's left of that bridge would make doing that almost impossible.


bgaidan said:
If they cut it in to smaller sections, maybe. But as it sits, you still have mangled steel wrapped around concrete piers and you'd just tear little pieces off if you just started yanking on the whole thing.

Saw some live chopper feeds this morning showing them moving in several heavy lift barge cranes, so I'm sticking with the theory that they'll chop it up in to more manageable pieces and get them out of the way by whatever means available to get the main channel clear.
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All they need is a continuous line of material barges to receive what the cranes are picking up. I'm sure there's a location near by where they could stage a few land based cranes to unload the barges.......even if they needed crews on the barges to cut the shit up into even smaller pieces that can be hauled off.

The roadway itself is going to be the pain in the ass.
 
I tried to get an eye on it today. Ft. Armistead park is as close as you can get on the southwest side. The revenuers had the road blocked to the park. That pretty much shuts down joe public from seeing it themselves other than a 2000 yard no go from the water.
 
Chzbrgr said:
I tried to get an eye on it today. Ft. Armistead park is as close as you can get on the southwest side. The revenuers had the road blocked to the park. That pretty much shuts down joe public from seeing it themselves other than a 2000 yard no go from the water.
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And you let the revenuers tell a sovereign citizen where he could and could not go?:flipoff2:
 
Firstram said:
Nowhere close to impossible.

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They could certainly directional drill under it. I was thinking divers. I don't think they're going to be cutting it up that way. Kind of a wrong tool deal.


aczlan said:
IIRC, the Captain in 2016 was Ukranian, the current Captain is from India (as is the whole crew).

Aaron Z
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Well folks, I think we've drilled down to the root cause of what went wrong.

I take back what I had said about the Captain not telling lies because the pilot was standing next to him the whole time. That fact isn't going to faze the Captain one bit



Looking at the drone video below, the section they need to remove to get ships moving again is sticking out of the water almost the whole way. Where it isn't sticking up is where I'd be looking to cut.

Boom, 2 lifts, where's my money.:flipoff2:



 
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87manche said:
I would assume the navy would come and do it since the corps of engineers is in charge of the channel cleanup.

they got shit to blow up shit under water the bestest.
our ability to fund real cool shit to blow shit up is the last thing I have faith in from the federal government. All else fails we still got the best bombs.
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That’s the only consolation I take from paying taxes.
 
gt1guy said:
Well folks, I think we've drilled down to the root cause of what went wrong.

I take back what I had said about the Captain not telling lies because the pilot was standing next to him the whole time. That fact isn't going to faze the Captain one bit.
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I have worked with and around a ton of those guys over the years and one thing stands out above all else. It don't matter if it's a Doctor, Engineer, Micro Biologist or a ditch digger, floor sweeper and the like. They all lie, lie through their teeth, they tell lies that are impossible and will still lie even when the truth would serve them better. I would ask a couple of the guys I know and am friendly why telling lies is their culture but I am sure they lie about it so why bother.
 
Lawless said:
I have worked with and around a ton of those guys over the years and one thing stands out above all else. It don't matter if it's a Doctor, Engineer, Micro Biologist or a ditch digger, floor sweeper and the like. They all lie, lie through their teeth, they tell lies that are impossible and will still lie even when the truth would serve them better. I would ask a couple of the guys I know and am friendly why telling lies is their culture but I am sure they lie about it so why bother.
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Leave me out of this.
 
Lawless said:
I have worked with and around a ton of those guys over the years and one thing stands out above all else. It don't matter if it's a Doctor, Engineer, Micro Biologist or a ditch digger, floor sweeper and the like. They all lie, lie through their teeth, they tell lies that are impossible and will still lie even when the truth would serve them better. I would ask a couple of the guys I know and am friendly why telling lies is their culture but I am sure they lie about it so why bother.
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I'd guess its similar to the Asian culture thing of not being able to say No/"Yes I can do that" (when they can't) to practically anything.
 
GM Guy said:
I'd guess its similar to the Asian culture thing of not being able to say No/"Yes I can do that" (when they can't) to practically anything.
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Not exactly - Indians lie lie lie about anything and everything in order to get ahead. They even lie about small, inconsequential things. They can't help themselves. When US companies put an Indian in a management position they do everything they can to replace everyone with Indians. Don't put all other Asians in the same category...
 
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