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Major Bridge in Baltimore Collapses After Being Struck by Cargo Ship

The guy driving that last semi you see going across the bridge must have shit his pants whenever he found out the bridge went down. He may have seen it in his mirrors or felt something if he wasn't completely off the bridge yet.

One thing to point out about the ongoing investigation, is that the captain really can't lie, cause he had the pilot standing next to him the whole time. But if the rest/most of the crew ware Indians, they don't even need to bother interviewing them, everything they say will be a lie. I guess they could ask them the same question 1000 times, then figure out the one single answer they never gave them as being reality.
 
plym49.2 said:
All those girders gotta be stressed in different directions. Start cutting and they could release a lot of energy like snapping a winch line.
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That's half the fun. Cut a big I-beam and have it disappear into the darkness in a split second. Then you wait to see if it comes back to slap you into the cheap seats. Honestly, it's scary as fuck.
 
So, my stupid question...

Choke the sections and tow to shore, with shore mounted winches and/or boats?

Probably can't because of submerged power/fiber optic cables and pipes and other infrastructure I guess.
Also probably not a good shoreline to use, like those shipbreaking beaches in Bangladesh?

Ignoring the damage to those infrastructure, could it be done?
Would the pieces mostly hold together?
Would it be cheaper/safer/easier than cranes and cutting in place?

I wonder if those ship cutting chains could be used to cut in place, or if the steel is too thick/strong...
 
Maybe if they floated it first?
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
So, my stupid question...

Choke the sections and tow to shore, with shore mounted winches and/or boats?

Probably can't because of submerged power/fiber optic cables and pipes and other infrastructure I guess.
Also probably not a good shoreline to use, like those shipbreaking beaches in Bangladesh?

Ignoring the damage to those infrastructure, could it be done?
Would the pieces mostly hold together?
Would it be cheaper/safer/easier than cranes and cutting in place?

I wonder if those ship cutting chains could be used to cut in place, or if the steel is too thick/strong...
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If they cut it in to smaller sections, maybe. But as it sits, you still have mangled steel wrapped around concrete piers and you'd just tear little pieces off if you just started yanking on the whole thing.

Saw some live chopper feeds this morning showing them moving in several heavy lift barge cranes, so I'm sticking with the theory that they'll chop it up in to more manageable pieces and get them out of the way by whatever means available to get the main channel clear.
 
plym49.2 said:
All those girders gotta be stressed in different directions. Start cutting and they could release a lot of energy like snapping a winch line.
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I would expect ROV’s to be utilized where they could.
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
Probably can't because of submerged power/fiber optic cables and pipes and other infrastructure I guess.
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There is, but they probably do have a path they can drag towards. I'll see if I can find the vid, if you are in a hurry, go through the latest TimBatSea on youtube, he's got the chart on screen of the area and mentions something about not dropping anchor somewhere due to snagging some line (gas maybe). He is a barge tug captain in the area.
 
GM Guy said:
There is, but they probably do have a path they can drag towards. I'll see if I can find the vid, if you are in a hurry, go through the latest TimBatSea on youtube, he's got the chart on screen of the area and mentions something about not dropping anchor somewhere due to snagging some line (gas maybe). He is a barge tug captain in the area.
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It would appear as though there are cables on both sides,(overhead and underwater) however, if it’s floated that would less if a risk, let’s just hope those in charge are reading irate so they know what to do/ expect…
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you give me 4 tugboats and some yankem rope and we'll have that sumbitch out in a few hours.

but I figured it was barges and cranes kind of things.
it always takes a crane.

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ideal situation for one of those rope saw things to cut the underwater section up, or do you just blow it up until it's small bits?
 
87manche said:
you give me 4 tugboats and some yankem rope and we'll have that sumbitch out in a few hours.

but I figured it was barges and cranes kind of things.
it always takes a crane.

edit:
ideal situation for one of those rope saw things to cut the underwater section up, or do you just blow it up until it's small bits?
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Cable saw would probably be ideal for chunking it up it to small enough pieces that the cranes can lift. Keeps humans out of th way of the springy steel when shit's cut and stresses get released.
 
Muckin_Slusher said:
So, my stupid question...

Choke the sections and tow to shore, with shore mounted winches and/or boats?

Probably can't because of submerged power/fiber optic cables and pipes and other infrastructure I guess.
Also probably not a good shoreline to use, like those shipbreaking beaches in Bangladesh?

Ignoring the damage to those infrastructure, could it be done?
Would the pieces mostly hold together?
Would it be cheaper/safer/easier than cranes and cutting in place?

I wonder if those ship cutting chains could be used to cut in place, or if the steel is too thick/strong...
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Bet this guy could help with that.

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I imagine explosives would be far quicker.
I suppose it depends on how close other things that wouldn't like explosions are.
 
87manche said:
I imagine explosives would be far quicker.
I suppose it depends on how close other things that wouldn't like explosions are.
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Remember the last time the feds had the idea to blow a wreck up? How did that work out in Ohio. Those dumbfucks would probably blow the ship in half, dump everything on it/all the fuel in the water and blame it on climate change and white supremacy, and levy a 50% tax on any imported consumer good to create a department to prevent that from happening again.
 
Slander said:
Remember the last time the feds had the idea to blow a wreck up? How did that work out in Ohio. Those dumbfucks would probably blow the ship in half, dump everything on it/all the fuel in the water and blame it on climate change and white supremacy.
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I would assume the navy would come and do it since the corps of engineers is in charge of the channel cleanup.

they got shit to blow up shit under water the bestest.
our ability to fund real cool shit to blow shit up is the last thing I have faith in from the federal government. All else fails we still got the best bombs.
 
87manche said:
I would assume the navy would come and do it since the corps of engineers is in charge of the channel cleanup.

they got shit to blow up shit under water the bestest.
our ability to fund real cool shit to blow shit up is the last thing I have faith in from the federal government. All else fails we still got the best bombs.
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Yea but this is shit we actually care about in the states, not some random 3rd world country or a dictator we installed who is trying to use his own currency for trade.
 


so I guess the question is, did the piling fail or did the ship knock the span off the piling?
also, CNN. Full screen the fucking video.
 
87manche said:


so I guess the question is, did the piling fail or did the ship knock the span off the piling?
also, CNN. Full screen the fucking video.
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The ntsb's YouTube page has some cool b roll footage of the wreck, both from a drone and inside the ship
 
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