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Libertarians- “keep getting your 3% every four years”

Sandy Johnson said:
who in this thread is doing that?
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Do you think this specific libertarian candidate is suitable to be president based on his beliefs?

Or do you believe that as soon as you cross the line of modifying a minors mind or sexuality, you’re no longer a viable option?
 
Rockbuggy84 said:
Do you think this specific libertarian candidate is suitable to be president based on his beliefs?

Or do you believe that as soon as you cross the line of modifying a minors mind or sexuality, you’re no longer a viable option?
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Where did he say he's ok with modifying minors?

A kid declaring themselves non-binary or trans clearly needs to sit down with a therapist. I'm good with them getting that.
 
Sandy Johnson said:
So much spin in one X post.

He's libertarian, open borders is a given.

He's also libertarian so anti legislation for kids sports is also a given

He hasn't stated what "therapies and care" nonbinary or trans kids should get, nor has he specified the age range. You could spin that the other way and say he's trying to force therapy down their throats to fix their mental health issues too.

Just because he chooses to wear a mask doesn't mean he's pro-mandating masks.


Anyway, food for thought.
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Spin? Where? It's his own post. Fuck him
 
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Sandy Johnson said:
Where did he say he's ok with modifying minors?

A kid declaring themselves non-binary or trans clearly needs to sit down with a therapist. I'm good with them getting that.
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So based on his views on this subject, is he off the table as a candidate in your opinion?
 
Sandy Johnson said:
The libertarian party's policies? I posted my which way I leaned in graphic form earlier in this thread.
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His policies are a wild departure from most libertarians and the party policies. I have been a part member for decades. They pushed me to run for local office.

He also stumped for Obama when he was a libertarian. Which means he wasn’t really a libertarian. He is an infiltrator.
 
Rockbuggy84 said:
So based on his views on this subject, is he off the table as a candidate in your opinion?
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Doesn't matter what my opinion is, I live in California and it will go blue for Biden. I haven't decided who I like for president yet, but I do like Oliver's stance on many issues. (#1 for me is not being scared of nuclear power).
 
Sandy Johnson said:
This spin is the rhetoric written at the top by someone else to prime which way you'll perceive three of his posts that they collected.
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Did you read his fucking post? No fucking spin regardless how YOU want to spin it.
 
DMG said:
His policies are a wild departure from most libertarians and the party policies.
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That's why I was asking earlier which ones. If he's advocating for getting kids operations, I'm out, but all I saw was someone's slatned X post that also accused him of being in favor of gov vax mandates when he blatantly isn't, so that makes the rest of the post suspect.

Throw some my way, because at a glance it looks like this dude checks a lot of libertarian boxes.
 
Sandy Johnson said:
Doesn't matter what my opinion is, I live in California and it will go blue for Biden. I haven't decided who I like for president yet, but I do like Oliver's stance on many issues. (#1 for me is not being scared of nuclear power).
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That wasn’t what I asked you. You quoted me and started the conversation, so let’s hear your opinion.

Is he off the table, or is supporting minors transition as long as “it’s no physical” ok with you?
 
Rockbuggy84 said:
You literally offered no solution.

Which candidate do I vote for outside of the r and d that’s gonna be the solution?
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Any of them. Just stop voting for the parties that have fucked everything up. Convince others to do the same.

But this is team sports fandom at this point. Too many people are bought into the "go team!" mentality while getting fucked in the ass by the team but they keep voting for team because they think their team at least offers them a bit of lube.
 
Rockbuggy84 said:
That wasn’t what I asked you. You quoted me and started the conversation, so let’s hear your opinion.

Is he off the table, or is supporting minors transition as long as “it’s no physical” ok with you?
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you're forcing me to pick something that isn't real. He didn't say he supported minors transitioning, he said trans and nonbinary kids needed medical help and were not getting it. Ignoring that those kids have a problem that needs to be dealt with is just as bad as supporting them transitioning before they are at the age of consent.

An no, I would not support a candidate that came out in favor of minors transitioning.
 
east_beast said:
Any of them. Just stop voting for the parties that have fucked everything up. Convince others to do the same.

But this is team sports fandom at this point. Too many people are bought into the "go team!" mentality while getting fucked in the ass by the team but they keep voting for team because they think their team at least offers them a bit of lube.
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What leads you to believe that if a third party came in, it would be any different than the current 2 parties we currently have?
 
Sandy Johnson said:
I did and I responded to you how it could be spun a different way due to the vague language Oliver used.
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Sandy Johnson said:
you're forcing me to pick something that isn't real. He didn't say he supported minors transitioning, he said trans and nonbinary kids needed medical help and were not getting it. Ignoring that those kids have a problem that needs to be dealt with is just as bad as supporting them transitioning before they even at the age of consent.

An no, I would not support a candidate that came out in favor of minors transitioning.
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The lie detector determined your post was a lie.

This is from his own site.

Go ahead and try and spin it.
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MuntCuffin said:
Have the elections been rectified of being fixed and crooked as suggested by evidence and what Trump himself alleged?
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This is what I'm scratching my head over. 2020 people were screaming the election was rigged, and now the same people are shaming people for not wanting to vote because they view it as rigged, or just lesser of two evils as usual. Meanwhile zero steps have been made by the R's to even hint that the issues have been fixed.

For the record: I grew up in Illinois so yes every election is rigged, as every single election in that state is openly rigged, why wouldn't the presidential election be rigged as well?
 
ApeEater said:
Yes, the most debt added in a 4 year term. More gun control than Obama. Fauci, and everything that came with him. 25% tariffs on imports, but only from China, so it only resulted in inflation.

How is he considered “almost libertarian?” Or, in your words “slightly better.”



I haven’t looked into the “pro hamas” claim someone made earlier, so this could change, but I’ve yet to see a reason to not vote for Oliver.
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Better than Biden.

Oliver is just another pro-child tranny pusher. In my eyes that is the equivalent of a child abuser and a very small step away from being a pedophile. As far as Im concerned anyone who has allowed, pushed for, or been any part of gender transitioning a child should be dropped in a ditch and left for vulture food. Hell for that matter you should add, people who knowingly vote for anyone that does any of the above.
 
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Sandy Johnson said:
Ayup, I stand corrected. The funny part is my next closest match on policies is Trump, soooo I guess I'll be doing that unless something majorly changes. Orange man is still rude in my eyes, but orange man economy was clearly superior.
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You’ve got my respect. When it comes to kids, they’re 100% of the table. :beer:
 
Rockbuggy84 said:
What leads you to believe that if a third party came in, it would be any different than the current 2 parties we currently have?
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Isn't it worth a chance? We know the known commodities. Would government ultimately do what government does and trend toward more control? Yes. Then you vote the fuckers out again.
 
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