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Libertarians- “keep getting your 3% every four years”

Wenzel said:
I asked in a fairly direct way about your definition of liberalism. AND, you seem to support it in many cases. Why? Without coercing anyone, please answer.
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liberalism is support of individual liberty
Liberalism is progressivism under a new brand name

Which do I support, now?
 
Also, how can I myself coerce you in any way shape or form?
If you're weak willed enough to take discussion as some sort of physical attack then nobody can help you, least of all those who offer to "help"
 
east_beast said:
When you resort to having to mock people who actually do stand for individual liberties above all else you might have lost the plot.
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Yeah okay, you guys are about as useful as your typical pink haired libtard is for individual liberties. So I dont feel too bad about it.
 
Animalmother said:
Yeah okay, you guys are about as useful as your typical pink haired libtard is for individual liberties. So I dont feel too bad about it.
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You guys keep voting for the same folks who have gotten us to the point of widespread hate of our government. R or D the same wildly irresponsible spending happens. They're both parties of big government and stifled freedoms they just have different views of how that big government should operate and which freedoms get stifled. So go ahead and toss your supposed values aside and keep voting for them. You should just stop complaining though because you know what you're gonna get. Trump had four years and he either lacked the skill or the will to pull off his supposed agenda or he never wanted to do it anyway. Four more years is gonna be four more of the same but I'm sure we'll hear the same excuses at the end of four more about how he just hired all the wrong people. Again. If you actually supported Trump's supposed agenda you should've voted for Vivek. Give a new guy a crack at it. The old one failed.
 
[486] said:
liberalism is support of individual liberty
Liberalism is progressivism under a new brand name

Which do I support, now?
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Yes, which do you support? As for the coercion comment, it was a snarky reminder that we all know you are anti-coercion. WE GET IT. You won't be man handled by coercion.

As I have pointed out before... here is the Oxford dictionary definition of:

lib·er·al·ism
[ˈlib(ə)rəˌlizəm]
noun
  1. willingness to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; openness to new ideas:
    "one of the basic tenets of liberalism is tolerance"
    • the holding of political views that are socially progressive and promote social welfare:
      "the borough prides itself on being a great bastion of liberalism and diversity"
    • theology
      the belief that many traditional beliefs are dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change.
  2. a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise:
    "representative democracy operates under the principles of classical liberalism"


  3. the doctrine of a Liberal Party or (in the UK) the Liberal Democrats:
    "working-class support for Liberalism"
 
east_beast said:
You guys keep voting for the same folks who have gotten us to the point of widespread hate of our government. R or D the same wildly irresponsible spending happens. They're both parties of big government and stifled freedoms they just have different views of how that big government should operate and which freedoms get stifled. So go ahead and toss your supposed values aside and keep voting for them. You should just stop complaining though because you know what you're gonna get. Trump had four years and he either lacked the skill or the will to pull off his supposed agenda or he never wanted to do it anyway. Four more years is gonna be four more of the same but I'm sure we'll hear the same excuses at the end of four more about how he just hired all the wrong people. Again. If you actually supported Trump's supposed agenda you should've voted for Vivek. Give a new guy a crack at it. The old one failed.
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I think he did a good job despite both parties working against him, a hostile media, and a manufactured pandemic thats being monday morning quarterbacked in hindsight. Id like to see a round 2. Vivek is young and has plenty of time.
 
Animalmother said:
I think he did a good job despite both parties working against him, a hostile media, and a manufactured pandemic thats being monday morning quarterbacked in hindsight. Id like to see a round 2. Vivek is young and has plenty of time.
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So vote another geriatric loser in?

These guys as of late are pushing 80 or above. They are walking around with loads in their slacks. One is a defiant egotistical narcissist and the other is also. With dementia.

WHY the fuck would anyone desire any of that?
 
Animalmother said:
I think he did a good job despite both parties working against him, a hostile media, and a manufactured pandemic thats being monday morning quarterbacked in hindsight. Id like to see a round 2. Vivek is young and has plenty of time.
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He didn't get us in any new wars. I'll give him that. Most everything else was either a fail or just standard issue mainstream Republican policy.

But he's calling Biden weak on Israel signaling our policy of shipping constant weapons to them would continue and now he's suggesting that he'd keep the spigot flowing to Ukraine too. So what would I actually voting for?
 
Wenzel said:
So vote another geriatric loser in?

These guys as of late are pushing 80 or above. They are walking around with loads in their slacks. One is a defiant egotistical narcissist and the other is also. With dementia.

WHY the fuck would anyone desire any of that?
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Dont see why his personality matters as it relates to governing but I love the defiant egotistical narcissist attitude. Especially towards the media and all the social snowflakes that get butthurt over it. I hope he goes scorched earth and gives the media and those responsible for the political persecution and blatant corruption a dick right up their ass.
 
Animalmother said:
Dont see why his personality matters as it relates to governing but I love the defiant egotistical narcissist attitude. Especially towards the media and all the social snowflakes that get butthurt over it. I hope he goes scorched earth and gives the media and those responsible for the political persecution and blatant corruption a dick right up their ass.
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You make homosexual behavior references here more than anyone else, why is that?
 
Animalmother said:
Dont see why his personality matters as it relates to governing but I love the defiant egotistical narcissist attitude. Especially towards the media and all the social snowflakes that get butthurt over it. I hope he goes scorched earth and gives the media and those responsible for the political persecution and blatant corruption a dick right up their ass.
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This is the reality of most Trump supporters. It's a cult of personality and just cheering for people you don't like getting upset by it. Now it's evolving into openly cheering for government overreach and abuse of power against those you oppose. So how are you any different than the blue haired leftists? Because that's what they want too
 
east_beast said:
This is the reality of most Trump supporters. It's a cult of personality and just cheering for people you don't like getting upset by it. Now it's evolving into openly cheering for government overreach and abuse of power against those you oppose. So how are you any different than the blue haired leftists? Because that's what they want too
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What a crock of shit. Trumps record has been hashed over and over at this point.

his personality is all you fuckers talk about so dont blame me it gets talked about.
 
If you guys don't like the popular options for president, don't vote for them. "Throw away" your vote until whatever parties the represent you best become more mainstream.

Here's a fun site: America’s most popular voting guide for elections, political issues, candidates, and poll data

Flame me all you want, but there's where I landed based purely on stances candidates have taken in the past... Didn't think trump would be that high and also didn't expect to see The Tiger King on there, lol.
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Animalmother said:
What a crock of shit. Trumps record has been hashed over and over at this point.

his personality is all you fuckers talk about so dont blame me it gets talked about.
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I'm honestly not sure if you're being intentionally obtuse or if it just comes naturally. It's hilariously ironic that you were literally just cheering on Trump's personality and drooling at the thought of political persecutions to your liking and then claim that it's all others talk about. That's blue haired leftist mentality. Weaponize a powerful government against your adversaries. And here you are begging for it.
 
east_beast said:
I'm honestly not sure if you're being intentionally obtuse or if it just comes naturally. It's hilariously ironic that you were literally just cheering on Trump's personality and drooling at the thought of political persecutions to your liking and then claim that it's all others talk about. That's blue haired leftist mentality. Weaponize a powerful government against your adversaries. And here you are begging for it.
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I know your desperatly trying to make that lame connection but the personality thing got brought up by someone else to me and I responeded. Its really just iceing on the cake for me and dont really give a fuck how you interpret it.
 
Animalmother said:
We have to hear the lesser of two evils pitch again when their answer is a child grooming BLM radical….okey dokey.

wait let me recap…whats this we shit? Because if the republicans suck, and the democrats suck, and ohhh…but Im not supporting the Libertarians either. Then how are you participating other than, “Everyone is dumb but me cause Im for fweeeeedom!”
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You are cheering for the undertaker, the other side is cheering for the rock.

Its my opinion that wrastlin' is fake and gay theater for waterheads. Same difference.

So Trump claimed that elections are full of cheating and are unreliable....anything change with that?
 
[486] said:
liberalism is support of individual liberty
Liberalism is progressivism under a new brand name

Which do I support, now?
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Another name for libertarian is "A CLASSICAL LIBERAL" , which isn't what the term liberal in common vernacular is applied.
 
45acp said:
No, we also talk about him printing $2trillion out of thin air, bad covid handling, tariffs, and reckless spending.

:laughing:
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Just keep observing from the sidelines like your above it all because the combined efforts of the Libertarian party is zero.

Funny that yall think you have a monopoly on the idea of limited government. Go read the views of the republicans, they same the same shit. But somehow yall get to talk about ideals on paper and pretend if a Libertarian was elected that magically politics cease to apply. No checks or balances no other half of the country fighting tooth and nail to stop you. Just a bee line to perfect utopia. Reality ceases to exist and a global empire can run off about 10 bucks.
 
Landslide said:
Lashing out at me like a window licking retard won’t help your TDS at all. Its not my fault your precious party nominated a far leftist faggot.

One thing I found out about this thread, you so called libertarians are hypocrites. You say you support people to do what they want. But turn your back on your party when they nominate a rainbow warrior for a leader. :lmao:
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Political parties are for fags.

There are political ideologies and political parties. They are not the same. Why would I not "turn my back" on a person I vehemently disagree with?

Do you not have an individual thought in your head or something? All your ideas are just handed down by the party.

No wonder we are steaming headlong towards 1984. Who would have thought that the Orwellian dystopia we are working on would be so gay.
 
[486] said:
If you're weak willed enough to take discussion as some sort of physical attack then nobody can help you, least of all those who offer to "help"
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Its always comical how the "fuck your feelings" asshats always have the most sensitive little feelers. Notice how Trump is always the victim?
Same with the cult of personality queerboat.

No personal responsibility. Always a victim. Someone else is always to blame. So goes tyranny.
 
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Sandy Johnson said:
If you guys don't like the popular options for president, don't vote for them. "Throw away" your vote until whatever parties the represent you best become more mainstream.

Here's a fun site: America’s most popular voting guide for elections, political issues, candidates, and poll data

Flame me all you want, but there's where I landed based purely on stances candidates have taken in the past... Didn't think trump would be that high and also didn't expect to see The Tiger King on there, lol.
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Trumps most successful policy isn't policy at all. It has been the disruption in business as usual politics, fracturing a political party, and exposing the corruption throughout gov agencys and media. Destruction is a feature, and I think will be beneficial in the long term.
 
east_beast said:
He didn't get us in any new wars. I'll give him that. Most everything else was either a fail or just standard issue mainstream Republican policy.

But he's calling Biden weak on Israel signaling our policy of shipping constant weapons to them would continue and now he's suggesting that he'd keep the spigot flowing to Ukraine too. So what would I actually voting for?
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No new wars...that's it? I guess you don't remember gas being over $3.00 for 8 years with Obama and below $2.00 with Trump.

Obama, get used to sub 3% GDP as it's the new norm. What's he going to do? Wave a magic wand? I guess he had a magic wand....:laughing:

I could go on but considering its all been pointed out before, it just falls on deaf ears.
 
Animalmother said:
I know your desperatly trying to make that lame connection but the personality thing got brought up by someone else to me and I responeded. Its really just iceing on the cake for me and dont really give a fuck how you interpret it.
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Thanks for answering the question. Given the level of literacy displayed here, I have to conclude that the stupidity is 100% natural. No signs of intentional obtuseness detected.
 
Thumping said:
No new wars...that's it? I guess you don't remember gas being over $3.00 for 8 years with Obama and below $2.00 with Trump.

Obama, get used to sub 3% GDP as it's the new norm. What's he going to do? Wave a magic wand? I guess he had a magic wand....:laughing:

I could go on but considering its all been pointed out before, it just falls on deaf ears.
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Gas prices. That's the argument? Gas prices?
 
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