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huge explosion in Lebanon

OllieNZ said:
+1 one on this. I bet there's been all sorts of fuel and other chemicals spilled all over the option over the years, they don't really give a stuff about health and safety or environmental protection. Plenty of sources of ignition at a dock even without the fact that every man and his dog over there seems to wander around with a cigarette hanging out of their mouths.
​​​​​​IMO it was an inevitable big badaboom with or without outside assistance.....
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Yeah but AN doesn't just explode on its own from an open flame, Doesn't it need a fuel oil mixed in and a detonator so it can go off? There's alot of questions to be answered like what was the cause of the fire? Was it actually a firework factory or is that what Raw AN looks/ sound like when its burning?
I'm just confused on why there would be a firework factory on a dock and from all the videos/ pictures i've seen the fire originates in the building where all the AN was stored.

Like Stubs said above, a crime of convenience, depending on how well guarded the warehouse was that stuff had been there for 7 years and there could have been people adding a fuel and other stuff to make it seem like more of an accident.
 
Can there not be genuine accidents anymore? Seems like every disaster now has some form of intent.

Coming up next, Trump hit the button the Yellowstone Volcano.
 
woods said:
Can there not be genuine accidents anymore? Seems like every disaster now has some form of intent.

Coming up next, Trump hit the button the Yellowstone Volcano.
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If it was truly an accident ,it was caused by govt incompetence for them to not move that shit out of the city and keep it away from anything important.

It doesn't even matter if it wasn't theirs because of how long they have had it since they seized it there is absolutely no reason it should have been kept in that location.

Should've just left it on the broken down cargo ship and towed it off to Somalia to get scrapped.
 
Arps said:
I am honestly surprised there arent more.
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From the videos I have seen... people will be "missing" (in pieces). I do not know how many people were on the ground near the blast when it happened...
 
doesnt look like it was stored very well...
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Rooster831 said:
If it was truly an accident ,it was caused by govt incompetence for them to not move that shit out of the city and keep it away from anything important.

It doesn't even matter if it wasn't theirs because of how long they have had it since they seized it there is absolutely no reason it should have been kept in that location.

Should've just left it on the broken down cargo ship and towed it off to Somalia to get scrapped.
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Oh, incompetence of the gov't I agree with. Absolutely. But to automatically say it was a bomb, missile, or some Haji in a taxi cab with a trunk full of mortars is getting old.
 
woods said:
Oh, incompetence of the gov't I agree with. Absolutely. But to automatically say it was a bomb, missile, or some Haji in a taxi cab with a trunk full of mortars is getting old.
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I don't think there was a missile or any of that bs, just some crazy shit.

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Baconator said:
doesnt look like it was stored very well...
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Safety 3rd.
We store boats in this beat up old barn for the winter. I think the doors on that are in better shape.
I dont see a lock anywhere. Usually when you open doors like that you hang the lock on the clasp. I dont see one there or on the ground.
 
Rooster831 said:
Like Stubs said above, a crime of convenience, depending on how well guarded the warehouse was that stuff had been there for 7 years and there could have been people adding a fuel and other stuff to make it seem like more of an accident.
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I'm wondering if the grain dust from the huge silos could have accumulated over 7 years and given it the fuel it needed. A silo explosion with an ammonium nitrate chaser.
 
Void_of_Light said:
I'm wondering if the grain dust from the huge silos could have accumulated over 7 years and given it the fuel it needed. A silo explosion with an ammonium nitrate chaser.
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Grain dust explosions tend to be instantaneous and not burn for a while before going boom.
 
Rooster831 said:
If it was truly an accident ,it was caused by govt incompetence for them to not move that shit out of the city and keep it away from anything important.

It doesn't even matter if it wasn't theirs because of how long they have had it since they seized it there is absolutely no reason it should have been kept in that location.

Should've just left it on the broken down cargo ship and towed it off to Somalia to get scrapped.
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Government incompetence is exactly what happened.

https://www.axios.com/beirut-ammonium-nitrate-explained-61a00b6e-61e4-4f90-8880-a5f946f81060.html
 
Paragon said:
I doubt it. DDT is possible, but videos show explosions before the big one. It was likely shock detonation. Regardless, shock detonation was the main blast, whether it was setoff by an area where fire was burning and went DDT
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Something from the firework factory kicked it over to detonation. I'm sure there was plenty of flash powder around in that burning mess that would have the energy to make it happen.
 
This is sort of interesting.... Picked up a mention on BBC news.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_disaster

The 1947 Texas City disaster was an industrial accident that occurred on April 16, 1947, in the Port of Texas City, Texas, at Galveston Bay. It was the deadliest industrial accident in United States history and one of history's largest non-nuclear explosions. A mid-morning fire started on board the French-registered vessel SS Grandcamp (docked in the port) and detonated her cargo of about 2,300 tons (about 2,100 metric tons) of ammonium nitrate.[SUP][1][/SUP] This started a chain reaction of fires and explosions in other ships and nearby oil-storage facilities, ultimately killing at least 581 people, including all but one member of the Texas City fire department.[SUP][2][/SUP]

The disaster drew the first class action lawsuit against the United States government, on behalf of 8,485 victims, under the 1946 Federal Tort Claims Act.
 
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