Just to touch on this. It’s my understanding that we will know without a doubt that we are either accepting or rejecting the MOB.Good point, but more importantly, no one has been required to denounce christ while getting the chips. Yet. (?)
Where?I’ve posted vids in another thread that break it down but all I get is negative feedback.
Many will be deceived and many don’t even have these thoughts on their radar.
The ‘Worth a Watch IMO’ thread. Dayz of Noah on YT.Where?
What about the people who have lived and died never even knowing that religion as a choice?
I agree with this to this point... the Bible talks of a time when all can see and all can hear.To a certain extent this is the image or story of Job. Job is supposedly the oldest book in the old testament written by Moses before the commandments. Otherwise God sorts this out. Great White throne of judgment the nations and peoples I read that as tribes. Not sure how the cannibals of the Philippines will fare...
I agree with this to this point... the Bible talks of a time when all can see and all can hear.
Not studied enough on it so don’t hammer me, but there has never been a time such as now with all the technology that most everyone on earth doesn’t have the means to see or hear.
Even third world countries have cell phones and access to the internet.
We weren’t promised to have everything laid out in a neat package.
We are given free will to seek the knowledge and learn.
Nothing is out of reach for those seeking the Word.
Beyond that rare instance that some people still don’t know, I agree that it’s taken into account when it comes time to judge.
We aren’t being set up.
The knowledge has never been so clear or available than today.
Was giving cliffs to otherwise complex theology but you are correct in where our understanding of science technology STEM today. I was watching a quantum physics scientist and he frankly said we aren't going very far for the next 40 years and even that is limited.
Its pretty amazing that the bible does a deep dive especially in Romans and Thessolonians that even the elect will be deceived or minds will be calloused to the wisdom of the scriptures and the Price of the Power of the air will control the air waves ie propaganda (not just western). The book of Daniel image of the beast comes out of the oceans signifies the generations of civilizations. Also the image of the Statue of Nebuchadnezzar.
Our Pastor mentioned that the antichrist will give orations and signs and miracles that will probably be some form of a deep fake type video magic. Another scenario of the battle of Armageddon is a friendly fire incident (a coalition or peoples that can't tolerate each other) that sabotages the main thrust of the forces.
Matthew 24 otherwise known as the Olivet Discourse parallels Revelation 13 pretty close. There is deeper thoughts on even Christians will become cold as despair of the violence and corruption we see will get so bad. Think The Weeping Prophet Jeremiah account of Israel in exile book of Lamentations.
Thanks!The ‘Worth a Watch IMO’ thread. Dayz of Noah on YT.
He’s one of the few that doesn’t get all Alex Jonesy on stuff.
Just presents what is already available for anyone to see via vid clips, printed word on websites, etc.
He ties up a lot of loose ends (at least for me).
The vids are usually long. 2-3-4 hours at times because he does them LIVE. It usually takes 15-20 minutes before the introduction ends before he gets into it. I just FFW to when I see him on the mic.
I’m not saying he’s absolutely correct and neither does he, but he takes the publicly available information and ties it together into a coherent path.
A path that nobody with a 12-14 hour a day job has the time to do.
Other than possible escalation that could lead to the destruction of the U.S. (Babylon the Great), it doesn't. The longer this plays out the less likely this is seeming to be a possibility.SO how does this Russia / Ukraine thing fit in?
Is this a false flag?Other than possible escalation that could lead to the destruction of the U.S. (Babylon the Great), it doesn't. The longer this plays out the less likely this is seeming to be a possibility.
It is, however, showing the aggression and boldness of Russia on the world stage, and the unwillingness of other nations (including the U.S.) to intervene. This will come into play later during the Gog/Magog war where Russia leads a coalition of (currently Islamic) nations against Israel.
Possibly,Is this a false flag?
Because it seems like Vlad is pushing back against the global statism
The part that makes no sense is. All the states that claim to support Christianity and Isreal are all the states that are pushing toward globalism and human opressionPossibly,
Throughout history men have often thought they were in the end times and the rapture was near, and so far they have all been wrong.
All of these world events are very interesting in how they may or maynot relate to the bible.
As much fun as we have discussing and debating, the bible clearly says no man will know the day or the hour of Jesus return and he will come as a theif in the night.
So we are called to always be ready. It could happen at 12:02 mountain time today, or maybe it won't happen in our life times.
It doesn't seem like enough events have passed that it could happen as soon as today, but maybe we men got it wrong.
It would be pretty difficult to set the stage to where we are at right now though. To my knowledge, the US is mentioned, at least in small forms in the bible. I don't believe we are the Revelation version of Babylon though.Possibly,
Throughout history men have often thought they were in the end times and the rapture was near, and so far they have all been wrong.
All of these world events are very interesting in how they may or maynot relate to the bible.
As much fun as we have discussing and debating, the bible clearly says no man will know the day or the hour of Jesus return and he will come as a theif in the night.
So we are called to always be ready. It could happen at 12:02 mountain time today, or maybe it won't happen in our life times.
It doesn't seem like enough events have passed that it could happen as soon as today, but maybe we men got it wrong.
It absolutely makes sense... The push for a one world order is what ushers in the antichrist.The part that makes no sense is. All the states that claim to support Christianity and Isreal are all the states that are pushing toward globalism
So since Vlad is against the states globalism, vlad is bad?It absolutely makes sense... The push for a one world order is what ushers in the antichrist.
I agree completely.Not sure you could set up a chess board any closer to the prophetic word.
Is there a way to prevent this "end of times" in the bible? Ive never heard about that part? If not, then who cares? Why worry about it?
The bible, especially "revelation" is written in such a way that it can be interpreted to mean anything you want it to.
When you want to find correlation you'll find correlation. It's easy to find correlation to vaguely written parables.
It's been covered....go back a few post and you'll find it.Now I didn’t read all pages, so this might have been brought up. There is a passage in the Bible that says a temple in Israel that will be rebuilt three times. It has been rebuilt twice and destroyed again. Now a different temple is standing in its place. By Israel law, it can not be torn down. So the other temple can not be rebuilt until Israel falls. The “end of days” doesn’t begin til this happens.
Do I got that wrong?
Maybe, maybe not. LOLNow I didn’t read all pages, so this might have been brought up. There is a passage in the Bible that says a temple in Israel that will be rebuilt three times. It has been rebuilt twice and destroyed again. Now a different temple is standing in its place. By Israel law, it can not be torn down. So the other temple can not be rebuilt until Israel falls. The “end of days” doesn’t begin til this happens.
Do I got that wrong?
How is the Antichrist supposed to take his seat (2nd Thessalonians 2:4), "the seat" that is in the "Holy of Holies" (a reference to the inner chamber of the Jewish Temple) if the 3rd Temple is spiritual. How is the Abomination of Desolation "set up" in the Temple if it is spiritual?Also I think that the temple could be spiritual and not necessarily physical. As god lives in us now.
Like I said, not sure I will have to reasearch that one myself for my own understanding.
Deleted my post because I don't want to create confusionHow is the Antichrist supposed to take his seat (2nd Thessalonians 2:4), "the seat" that is in the "Holy of Holies" (a reference to the inner chamber of the Jewish Temple) if the 3rd Temple is spiritual. How is the Abomination of Desolation "set up" in the Temple if it is spiritual?
In order for these things to occur, there must be a physical Jewish Temple (and no, the Dome of the Rock isn't it).
If you want to take the conversation to PM's that's ok with me.Deleted my post because I don't want to create confusion
that doesn't help anyone.
I just want people to keep an open mind.If you want to take the conversation to PM's that's ok with me.
In my experience, Christians that argue for a "spiritual" Temple rather than a physical one tends to hold to preterists or partial-preterists views. Neither of those seem to be your view, however.