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You guys realize OP is using all of you for his business development. He needs to iron out all of the parts of the story being asked about before he gets on stage using the story to put people in a trance for their $$$$.
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I didn't start In His Own Image to make money; currently I put more money into it than I receive in donations. I do not charge for my seminars, I ask for donations only; currently I typically spend more to produce a seminar than what I receive back in donations. And that is 100% ok with me.

As for "ironing out the story" very little of what I've discussed here is even mentioned in any of my seminars. I don't (yet?) do seminars on Eschatology (End Times Prophecy); although I have taught on it as an adult Sunday School teacher. My seminars are also intended for Christians and the stories I use in those seminars get refined each time I present them; no need to "practice" them here, nor would it be useful to do so. Writing and speaking are very different means of communication; with speaking, there's no going back and proof-reading or making adjustments to the way a sentence was formed, it comes out how it comes out.
 
I was merely pointing out the implied intolerance of some Christians.

The practical example you provided more than accomplished it - thanks :beer:

OK, now I hope to leave this thread alone, out of respectful indifference.
Intolerance? How have I prevented you from sharing your opinion?

You got butthurt over words you dont like, like an emotionally cucked bitch.

Happy I could clear that up for ya.

Toodles.
 
Exact number? I really don't know... If you just follow the text of scripture it would put you around 6500 -7000 years give or take. Lot's of opinions on this.

Genesis says it was a land mass that was whole. Scientists refer to it as Pangaea. Also in Genesis is a recount of the flood that says the well springs of the deep broke forth and that the rains lasted 40 days and nights. The earth was drastically changed and reshaped... including the garden of Eden. This changed probably started prior to the flood imo, at the fall of man as well.

There's also an account in Genesis of the genealogy from Adam to Noah. If you were to just take in account of that, the flood would have occurred around 4500 years ago. Or around 2450 B.C.

For the lions it was a whip and a chair... and some scooby snacks and what not. :flipoff2:

I'm sure there were more species... some were hunted out, some didn't adapt to the new environment, some did... and thrived in accordance to their new habitats.

Did we need more?

1. You shall have no other gods.
2. You shall not make idols.
3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord.
4. Remember the Sabbath, keep it holy.
5. Honor your father and mother.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not lie.
10. You shall not covet.

Not sure I would classify crucifixion as a blaze of glory...
That's an interesting mix of scripture interpretation and modern science. If you notice all my questions were about the old testament, which I regard as little more than Jewish Mythology, lessons on morality and such taught through storytelling. Maybe it did all go down like that, but in my mind it doesn't really matter, take the lesson or don't.

Well I was referring more to the resurrection, than the crucifixion. :flipoff2:😎
 
semi topic, serious question..

is church a good place to meet a girl? or do you get the sluts who pretend to be a good girl?

asking for a desperate friend :homer:
 
semi topic, serious question..

is church a good place to meet a girl? or do you get the sluts who pretend to be a good girl?

asking for a desperate friend :homer:
Again, put your big-girl track suit on and go to church and find out for yourself. I mean the worst that could happen is you burst into flames, but it might be worth the risk.
 
I've been hearing It's the end of days since I could comprehend spoken word, also remember this

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

So It's just another one of those things I don't have to worry about,

like the winds and their circuits and the ocean never filling up.
 
One of the headlines from the past few days that I believe has relevance to Bible Prophecy is from the Washington Post: Israel Feels Alone Without the US In Afghanistan
(I don't have a subscription, so I wasn't able to read the article, but the headline itself is worthy of discussing).

It is likely under "President" Obiden that the Gog/Magog war of Ezekiel is imminent; admittedly I thought the same thing under Obama, yet it seems even much, much closer now than then. I believe there are also some important ramifications for the United States when this does happen. In order to explain, I will refer to a few different scriptures.


In this first passage, I am quoting a part of what is known as the Abrahamic Covenant. This is God's promise to Abraham (and Abrahams' descendants, Israel).

"And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse." - Genesis 12:3

Essentially, what God is saying is that He will treat other nations based on how those nations treat Israel. Keep that in the back of your mind, if you will.


Next I'll quote from Ezekiel 38/39, also known as the Gog/Magog War, which is a prophesized war between Israel and a host of other nations believed to be Iran, some of the "Stans" (possibly including Afghanistan), Turkey, Sudan and Libya. And possibly Russia (maybe only in a support capacity)? Note that "Gog" appears to be an individual, not a nation; Gog would be the ruler of Iran or possibly "Allah" (Satan); in other words an Islamic Alliance.

"This is what the Lord God says: 'Behold, I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. So I will turn you around and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you out, and all your army." - Ezekiel 38:3-4 (NASB)

Take note that Syria is mysteriously missing from this group. My theory has long been that the reason Syria is missing is because it has been destroyed by Israel, which is the "hook in the jaw" to cause a retaliation from the Islamic alliance. This destruction of Syria (Damascus) is prophesized in Isaiah 17.

"The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap." - Isaiah 17:1 (KJV)

Damascus has been conquered in the past, but it has never been destroyed. Certainly if Israel attacked Syria and destroyed (nuked?) Damascus, it would cause the aforementioned nations to rise up against Israel.

So where is Saudi Arabia and the other "Arab" nations along with the United States (and "Europe") during all of this?

"Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, 'Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?'" - Ezekiel 38:13

Sheba and Dedan are essential the other Arabic nations. Tarshish is Europe, Great Brittan and the "Young Lions" would be the former colonies of "Tarshish", so the Americas (North, Central and South), South Africa, Australia, India, etc... Essentially, it sound like we're going to "stand by and watch to see what happens." We question (maybe a strongly worded e-mail from the chief potato), but do nothing else.

Ok, great, you might say. Sound like something we wouldn't want to get involved with anyway. Israel (with God's help) soundly defeats this Army so no harm, no foul, right?

Not exactly, remember Genesis 12:3: How other nations treat Israel is how God is going to treat that nation.

In Isaiah 18 (prophesies are not necessarily given in order, but it is interesting that this prophecy follows the destruction of Damascus in Isaiah 17), there is a prophecy concerning a nation, a nation not mentioned by name (because it didn't exist at the time?):

"Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia: That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled!" - Isaiah 18:1-2 (KJV)

And again from the NASB:

"Woe, land of whirring wings which lies beyond the rivers of Cush, which sends messengers by the sea, even in papyrus vessels on the surface of the waters. Go, swift messengers, to a nation tall and smooth, to a people feared far and wide, a powerful and oppressive nation whose land the rivers divide." - Isaiah 18:1-2 (NASB)

I believe that this describes the United States; our Air Superiority is unquestioned (shadowing with wings, land of whirring wings) and we are also home to the first airplane flight. Beyond the rivers of Ethiopia (not the same as modern day Ethiopia) is basically saying "Beyond the known world." We definitely send "messengers" or "ambassadors" over seas all around the world. Tall and smooth (the Hebrew word here smooth/peeled can also mean "shaven"); this is how Americans are often viewed overseas. Feared "far and wide" and "powerful and oppressive" (how the U.S. would be viewed in that particular region of the world). Whose land the rivers divide; note that it is rivers, plural; how many states have at least one border that is a river? We are literally a nation that is divided by rivers.

So what's going to happen to this nation?

"I will quietly look [d]from My dwelling place like dazzling heat in the sunshine, like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest." - Isaiah 18:4 (NASB)

Something is going to happen, and God is going to just sit back and watch; He will not intervene. What will happen? My theory is that we will have Civil War; we will be divided. Remember Genesis 12:3? How we treat Israel is how we will be treated. How many times has the U.S. been involved in "Peace Treaties" with Israel attempting to "divide" Israel's God promised land between Israel and Palestine? The U.S. has been "dividing" Israel for decades; it will now be our turn to be "divided." Given the current state of things in this country, it is also plausible to see a Civil war if things continue as they are.

In any case, even if it isn't "Civil War", whatever is coming will not be pleasant:

"They will be left together for mountain birds of prey, and for the animals of the earth; and the birds of prey will spend the summer feeding on them,
And all the animals of the earth will spend harvest time on them." - Isaiah 18:6 (NASB)

The good news is that it does sound like we "survive" whatever it is, as the chapter closes out with a gift of some kind being sent to Israel from us.


So this is my interpretation and theory of what may soon be coming. If you see the aforementioned nations uniting together against Israel and our "leadership" (or lack thereof) decides to "do nothing" then I would start making preparations, if you live in a city and have somewhere else you can be, be ready to make that move. Double check your SHTF bags, plans and options.
 
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
One of the interesting things about that phrase, is it precisely describes the "Feast of Trumpets" (a.k.a. Rosh Hashanah). There are certain PreTrib churches that gather each Rosh Hashanah just in case it's "this year."

The reason for this phrase being associated with Rosh Hashanah is that traditionally it required two appointed rabbis to agree that they both see the sliver of the new moon; so nobody knew exactly which day Rosh Hashanah would actually fall on, until the two rabbi's agreed. The feast is also marked with the blowing of trumpets, with a final blast of the shofar coming after the two rabbi's agree (the "Last Trump").

Could it be that Jesus was simply telling His disciples that the return would be on a future Rosh Hashanah and we've been misinterpreting this as "nobody can know when it will come"?

Just food for thought.
 
I’m thoroughly on board with this thread and I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t get infiltrated and comprised by the typical way these threads go.

If those reading who don’t agree or subscribe to the discussion could just treat it like the ‘I Quit Drinking’ thread and respect the discussion it would be beneficial.

Who knows, you may learn something or get sent in a different direction.
 
I understand what you are saying but you haven't addressed why it is important to you that other people 'see the light' as you have. Why can't you just go about your own life happy in your beliefs, leaving others to have their own (dis)beliefs.
Particularly your last sentence. Why are you trying to cause the nonbelievers to open up to your beliefs?
I understand what you are saying but you haven't addressed why it is important to you that other people 'see the light' as you have. Why can't you just go about your own life happy in your beliefs, leaving others to have their own (dis)beliefs.
Particularly your last sentence. Why are you trying to cause the nonbelievers to open up to your beliefs?
I won’t be so bold as to speak for the OP, but IMO the Christian belief is that you are to share what you have passion for to others so that they may also find redemption.

I know it falls on deaf ears for many who do not already have a propensity for that, but we are to do it anyway.

We are just trying to carry out what we are called to do within our power. If it’s rejected then so be it.

It’s kinda like ‘if it saves one life’, but the difference is we aren’t imposing draconian mandates to ensure the life is saved.

We come with information.
You can accept or not.
That’s all there is.
 
semi topic, serious question..

is church a good place to meet a girl? or do you get the sluts who pretend to be a good girl?

asking for a desperate friend :homer:
If you are going to church to meet women, you're going for the wrong reason.

If you're going for the wrong reason, any good single woman at a church will sniff that shit out in a heartbeat and likely want nothing to do with you.

But the church i go to is pretty darn conservative. Latin mass has that effect, i suppose :lmao:
Crazy to think I was an unbaptized heathen with no interest in changing that no more than 2 years ago.
 
I won’t be so bold as to speak for the OP, but IMO the Christian belief is that you are to share what you have passion for to others so that they may also find redemption.

I know it falls on deaf ears for many who do not already have a propensity for that, but we are to do it anyway.

We are just trying to carry out what we are called to do within our power. If it’s rejected then so be it.

It’s kinda like ‘if it saves one life’, but the difference is we aren’t imposing draconian mandates to ensure the life is saved.

We come with information.
You can accept or not.
That’s all there is.
I never understood it.

With all the cultural influences pumping trash into the heads of the masses...

The one thing people take issue with is religion, seemingly Christianity primarily...probably because its the most widely practiced religion in the states.....
Anyway, I guess I fail to see what influences from Christianity are bad...

We are trying the way of secular influences right now and we got dudes chopping off their dicks, calling themselves a woman, and encouraging kids to do the same. Guess we gotta trust that science. :homer:
 
I believe that while maybe not THE mark of the Beast, it seems to me it is a precursor to getting many on board to accept the mark.
Its social conditioning to control, just like 9/11 and patriot act.
You have a fear instilling event and you prey on that fear to seize control.
Hitler did the same thing to seize control and convince a nation in Central Europe to commit genocide.
And control is the ultimate evil. With the opposite of control being love and free will, both of which are core tenants of a life in Christ.
I agree, it ain't the mark, but its being used as a tool for evil.
 
I never understood it.

With all the cultural influences pumping trash into the heads of the masses...

The one thing people take issue with is religion, seemingly Christianity primarily...probably because its the most widely practiced religion in the states.....
Anyway, I guess I fail to see what influences from Christianity are bad...

We are trying the way of secular influences right now and we got dudes chopping off their dicks, calling themselves a woman, and encouraging kids to do the same. Guess we gotta trust that science. :homer:
I get it.
I guess what you’re saying is that things are feeling uncomfortable nowadays. All the anxiety, the ‘news’ cycle, the cultural shift from what you knew, the world events, and the events here in our Homeland.

There’s a reason you see the trash being perpetrated upon the people is because you sense that it isn’t right.

The world and more specifically, our Nation isn’t right at this time.

I think more people are figuring this out but don’t exactly know where to turn.

I’ll leave you with this:
This world is not our home, nor should we want it to be.
 
I get it.
I guess what you’re saying is that things are feeling uncomfortable nowadays. All the anxiety, the ‘news’ cycle, the cultural shift from what you knew, the world events, and the events here in our Homeland.

There’s a reason you see the trash being perpetrated upon the people is because you sense that it isn’t right.

The world and more specifically, our Nation isn’t right at this time.

I think more people are figuring this out but don’t exactly know where to turn.

I’ll leave you with this:
This world is not our home, nor should we want it to be.
I don't disagree.

Its uncomfortable because its blatant control.

While we are on this world, we are to be good stewards of it. At least that's how I interpret being given dominion over what God provided here.
 
I never understood it.

With all the cultural influences pumping trash into the heads of the masses...

The one thing people take issue with is religion, seemingly Christianity primarily...probably because its the most widely practiced religion in the states.....
Anyway, I guess I fail to see what influences from Christianity are bad...

We are trying the way of secular influences right now and we got dudes chopping off their dicks, calling themselves a woman, and encouraging kids to do the same. Guess we gotta trust that science. :homer:

I watched a slew of YouTube videos about people on the street trying to reach people about Jesus and being attacked, interrupted, and anything that would disrupt their message. These were not people being imposing and pissing off everyone around. These were christians having a conversation with someone trying to help them and another person outside of the conversation would interject themselves and try to stop it.

It is obvious that just like god works through man to deliver his message satan uses man to stop it. Some of the videos are pretty freaky.

If you notice many times when people come into these threads they feel compelled to discredit religion and Christians and be disruptive in the most offensive and vulgar way possible. Much like satan’s reaction to god.

I think some people need to think about that.
 
You guys realize OP is using all of you for his business development. He needs to iron out all of the parts of the story being asked about before he gets on stage using the story to put people in a trance for their $$$$.
Yes most of the ones that want to be heard are wanting money. I mean if the "word of god" doesn't bring you money or fresh meat what good is it?
 
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I watched a slew of YouTube videos about people on the street trying to reach people about Jesus and being attacked, interrupted, and anything that would disrupt their message. These were not people being imposing and pissing off everyone around. These were christians having a conversation with someone trying to help them and another person outside of the conversation would interject themselves and try to stop it.

It is obvious that just like god works through man to deliver his message satan uses man to stop it. Some of the videos are pretty freaky.

If you notice many times when people come into these threads they feel compelled to discredit religion and Christians and be disruptive in the most offensive and vulgar way possible. Much like satan’s reaction to god.

I think some people need to think about that.

Help them how?

That's straight up psychological projection.

I think some of us who actually understood God's purpose of us being in this situation, on Earth, right now, are supposed to use our God given faculties to learn, discern, grow, and understand the limitations in interactions between people who are simple monkeys/biological robots and other intra-species predators amongst us who are soulless (that seem to gravitate to positions of social "power"), and burn in the crucible called "Earth" so as to see ALL things CLEARLY as they REALLY are, without prejudice.

Rare thing to do in only ONE lifetime. That's why souled people recycle into this "school" over and over, until they "get" it.


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Help them how?

That's straight up psychological projection.

I think some of us who actually understood God's purpose of us being in this situation, on Earth, right now, are supposed to use our God given faculties to learn, discern, grow, and understand the limitations in interactions between people who are simple monkeys/biological robots and other intra-species predators amongst us who are soulless (that seem to gravitate to positions of social "power"), and burn in the crucible called "Earth" so as to see ALL things CLEARLY as they REALLY are, without prejudice.

Rare thing to do in only ONE lifetime. That's why souled people recycle into this "school" over and over, until they "get" it.


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Hey man I guess you dont know but from a christian perspective introducing a person to Jesus is helping them.

Its not a confusing idea or some projection on my part. Its a universal belief held by Christians across the board.
 
Hey man I guess you dont know but from a christian perspective introducing a person to Jesus is helping them.

Its not a confusing idea or some projection on my part. Its a universal belief held by Christians across the board.

Unless you're trolling me, you, Sir, suffer from something other than Christianity.

Christianity is NOT about bringing people to some "person", historical, modern, or otherwise.

You've been VERY much misled if this is what you believe.
 
Unless you're trolling me, you, Sir, suffer from something other than Christianity.

Christianity is NOT about bringing people to some "person", historical, modern, or otherwise.

You've been VERY much misled if this is what you believe.

What's it about?

I'm genuinely asking here.... I am interested in what you think Christianity is about.
 
Hey man I guess you dont know but from a christian perspective introducing a person to Jesus is helping them.

Its not a confusing idea or some projection on my part. Its a universal belief held by Christians across the board.
Hey man, keep in mind there are folks selling Scientology, Judaism, atheism, and other religions with the same enthusiasm, urgency, and conviction as the Christians. So, when you complain about folks countering your proselytization, remember they may feel the same of the Christians. (e,g., "I'm trying to give someone the truth, and the Christians feel the need to butt in & undermine"). The less fragile you are about your beliefs, the more convincing you might be at selling your brand of religion.

****Muffin accidentally explained why he approaches this like a gang member - he's new to team Jesus and still somewhat insecure, therefore almost militant.

IMHO, flecker is the most convincing among y'all - well-read and devoted yet secure and mature enough to at least give the appearance of not looking down on those with different beliefs.

I hope it's obvious to the adults here (who are secure in their convictions) that this feedback is meant to be helpful rather than antagonistic. If you don't see it as such, that's on you.
 
Hey man, keep in mind there are folks selling Scientology, Judaism, atheism, and other religions with the same enthusiasm, urgency, and conviction as the Christians. So, when you complain about folks countering your proselytization, remember they may feel the same of the Christians. (e,g., "I'm trying to give someone the truth, and the Christians feel the need to butt in & undermine"). The less fragile you are about your beliefs, the more convincing you might be at selling your brand of religion.

****Muffin accidentally explained why he approaches this like a gang member - he's new to team Jesus and still somewhat insecure, therefore almost militant.

IMHO, flecker is the most convincing among y'all - well-read and devoted yet secure and mature enough to at least give the appearance of not looking down on those with different beliefs.

I hope it's obvious to the adults here (who are secure in their convictions) that this feedback is meant to be helpful rather than antagonistic. If you don't see it as such, that's on you.

Very well said.

But again, be careful of "convictions", that smells like a closed mind that has "locked" down a belief, too.
 
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