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You people are the reasons why such orders are necessary

Hey, if you want to go around bowing to the gov't every time they send you a letter, have at it. But I'll be the one to decide if I need to leave the house. Obviously if I'm sick puking or shitting my brains out, I'm staying home. But if I'm feeling fine, no symptoms, you can't tell me to stay home. Sorry. That's not how that works. If you are that worried about catching something, you can stay home and I can go on with my life.
 
Hey, if you want to go around bowing to the gov't every time they send you a letter, have at it. But I'll be the one to decide if I need to leave the house. Obviously if I'm sick puking or shitting my brains out, I'm staying home. But if I'm feeling fine, no symptoms, you can't tell me to stay home. Sorry. That's not how that works. If you are that worried about catching something, you can stay home and I can go on with my life.

Ok, let's see if you can follow along. Someone got a quarantine order because they popped +. You suggested one should ignore such order, period. I stated you are the reason why such orders are given.

If you test positive for a fucking virus that kills people, whether you feel good or not, you stay home and quarantine. That logic hasn't changed. If you have a virus, the .gov has every right to suspend any and all of your rights because YOUR individual rights ends where others' begins.

It is because of fucking idiots, like you, that a .gov agency HAS TO step in and place an order because your stupid fucking redneck, backwardass notion of freedom only applies to you.
 
Ok, let's see if you can follow along. Someone got a quarantine order because they popped +. You suggested one should ignore such order, period. I stated you are the reason why such orders are given.

If you test positive for a fucking virus that kills people, whether you feel good or not, you stay home and quarantine. That logic hasn't changed. If you have a virus, the .gov has every right to suspend any and all of your rights because YOUR individual rights ends where others' begins.

It is because of fucking idiots, like you, that a .gov agency HAS TO step in and place an order because your stupid fucking redneck, backwardass notion of freedom only applies to you.

That's fine man. Stay home until the TV tells you its ok to come out. You're no different than those people that have been telling me for three months now "in two weeks we're going to start seeing the bodies stacking up".

I also have a blood disorder that is passed down through genetics. Should the government step in, tell me I cannot have kids because they'll end up with a disorder where seeing the age of 40 is doubtful?

If you're worried about getting sick, or getting killed by someone else's actions you should probably never leave the house.
 
That's fine man. Stay home until the TV tells you its ok to come out. You're no different than those people that have been telling me for three months now "in two weeks we're going to start seeing the bodies stacking up".

I also have a blood disorder that is passed down through genetics. Should the government step in, tell me I cannot have kids because they'll end up with a disorder where seeing the age of 40 is doubtful?

If you're worried about getting sick, or getting killed by someone else's actions you should probably never leave the house.

Why are you moving the goalposts to back your play?

Quit digging your dumbass hole. You were called out for the stupidity, now just own it.
 
Ok, let's see if you can follow along. Someone got a quarantine order because they popped +. You suggested one should ignore such order, period. I stated you are the reason why such orders are given.

If you test positive for a fucking virus that kills people, whether you feel good or not, you stay home and quarantine. That logic hasn't changed. If you have a virus, the .gov has every right to suspend any and all of your rights because YOUR individual rights ends where others' begins.

It is because of fucking idiots, like you, that a .gov agency HAS TO step in and place an order because your stupid fucking redneck, backwardass notion of freedom only applies to you.

so... government mandates to stay home if you have the flu as well? That kills a lot of people.

Your idea that the government can essentially jail someone because of a virus is gestapo material, is not?

If a virus has almost zero impact on 98% of folks, and ~99% of folks survive, is it your belief that the government should forcibly quarantine 98% of the population? Who's going to enforce that if 98% of government is quarantined as well?

There is no liberty w/o individual liberty....
 
ugh. Its to early to argue with democrats.
 
Ok, let's see if you can follow along. Someone got a quarantine order because they popped +. You suggested one should ignore such order, period. I stated you are the reason why such orders are given.

If you test positive for a fucking virus that kills people, whether you feel good or not, you stay home and quarantine. That logic hasn't changed. If you have a virus, the .gov has every right to suspend any and all of your rights because YOUR individual rights ends where others' begins.

It is because of fucking idiots, like you, that a .gov agency HAS TO step in and place an order because your stupid fucking redneck, backwardass notion of freedom only applies to you.

Bullshit. If I feel fine and I have a job that is important for me to be at, and there are no high risk individuals at my workplace and/or my coworkers have no issue with me being there, then the .gov can pound sand. I'll avoid going to places I don't need to go to, but other than that I'm not going to sit in my house for two weeks if I feel fine.

This entire covid situation has been handled completely backwards from the very beginning. We should be protecting the high risk and letting everyone else do their thing.
 
Bullshit. If I feel fine and I have a job that is important for me to be at, and there are no high risk individuals at my workplace and/or my coworkers have no issue with me being there, then the .gov can pound sand. I'll avoid going to places I don't need to go to, but other than that I'm not going to sit in my house for two weeks if I feel fine.

This entire covid situation has been handled completely backwards from the very beginning. We should be protecting the high risk and letting everyone else do their thing.

another fucking idiot.

this is why the .gov has to step in. Because people like you really are this stupid
 
This entire covid situation has been handled completely backwards from the very beginning. We should be protecting the high risk and letting everyone else do their thing.

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so... government mandates to stay home if you have the flu as well? That kills a lot of people.

Your idea that the government can essentially jail someone because of a virus is gestapo material, is not?

If a virus has almost zero impact on 98% of folks, and ~99% of folks survive, is it your belief that the government should forcibly quarantine 98% of the population? Who's going to enforce that if 98% of government is quarantined as well?

There is no liberty w/o individual liberty....

there is no liberty within death, unless you are religious.

quit moving goalposts and I'll keep pointing out where you fuckheads are wrong. Otherwise I'll keep poking so that you double-down on your stupidity out of fear of not being perceived as right
 
This entire covid situation has been handled completely backwards from the very beginning. We should be protecting the high risk and letting everyone else do their thing.

and if everyone was such a great monday morning quarterback everyone would be wearing super bowl rings
 
Government has too much power, evidently should not be part of this.

Don't forget, they're same one that tried to get involved with gas can and look how that turned out.
 
another fucking idiot.

this is why the .gov has to step in. Because people like you really are this stupid

Why is that stupid? Because you have a hard time grasping the fact that people die? That there's dozens of ways for people to die every day? That we need to sometimes let nature take it's course?

Last I heard less than 200k people will die from 'rona in the US. That's barely a drop in the bucket compared to our population. But in the meantime we've ruined millions of lives by destroying jobs and completely wrecking our economy. The deaths from suicide and depression over the next 5 years will far overshadow the deaths from 'rona, but the MSM won't talk about that.

Keep your head in the sand and be a SJW for the 'rona if you want.
 
there is no liberty within death, unless you are religious.

quit moving goalposts and I'll keep pointing out where you fuckheads are wrong. Otherwise I'll keep poking so that you double-down on your stupidity out of fear of not being perceived as right

uh... who moved the goalposts? I didn't. I believe that you stated the government has the right to force anyone to stay home... i just added the stats.
 
If was fine enough to continue to work, he probably thought it was something else. 98% of cases are mild. I would've done the same thing.

Ordinarily, I might agree with you, but when we are in the middle of a pandemic... You have to use more common sense.

Honestly, even pre-pandemic, staying home when you are sick is the considerate thing to do for your coworkers...

On the plus side, I along with the rest of our crew all tested negative. *including the older guy that had the most contact with the positive case.
 
Why is that stupid? Because you have a hard time grasping the fact that people die? That there's dozens of ways for people to die every day? That we need to sometimes let nature take it's course?

Like a severe hemophiliac wielding a 372XP and 24" bar? :D
 
Why is that stupid? Because you have a hard time grasping the fact that people die? That there's dozens of ways for people to die every day? That we need to sometimes let nature take it's course?

Last I heard less than 200k people will die from 'rona in the US. That's barely a drop in the bucket compared to our population. But in the meantime we've ruined millions of lives by destroying jobs and completely wrecking our economy. The deaths from suicide and depression over the next 5 years will far overshadow the deaths from 'rona, but the MSM won't talk about that.

Keep your head in the sand and be a SJW for the 'rona if you want.

You are stupid because you don't have the capacity to think outside your mobile home.

If you test positive for a highly contagious virus and you don't feel it necessary, within your social contract with other freedom loving individuals, to quarantine yourself so that you are not actively contributing to the spread then, by all means, the .gov should come in and make you sit in the corner.

It has nothing to do with how many do die or don't die in the U.S. It has to do with the fact that your liberty comes with responsibility. Because you so openly choose to shirk your responsibility then the .gov has to come in and remove everyone's liberties.
 
uh... who moved the goalposts? I didn't. I believe that you stated the government has the right to force anyone to stay home... i just added the stats.

you did

I stated that an individual that tested positive should be forced to quarantine because idiots like these posting here that if they feel fine, they don't care if they test positive, and can just go spread the love around.

you then state
If a virus has almost zero impact on 98% of folks, and ~99% of folks survive, is it your belief that the government should forcibly quarantine 98% of the population?
along with flu bullshit and other shit that attempts to redraw my part of the discussion into something I did not state
 
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Ok... where do you want the goal posts to be? Tell me and we'll go from there.

it has nothing to do with my wants. they are where they are in the discussion. you choose the route of moving them around to suite your argument because you either a) don't have an argument, b) don't care about the argument at hand and want to twist it into your own argument or c) you are a fucking dumbass and probably think verticalscope is cool
 
it has nothing to do with my wants. they are where they are in the discussion. you choose the route of moving them around to suite your argument because you either a) don't have an argument, b) don't care about the argument at hand and want to twist it into your own argument or c) you are a fucking dumbass and probably think verticalscope is cool

one could say the same for the trite response of "you moved the goalposts... " to any comment to which you do not want to engage.

But since you're being all nitpicky. Where should the goal posts be? If one doesn't know that, one cannot be accused of moving them. And since you're the only one who seems to know where they are/should be, it would be nice if you'd share that little tidbit of information.

Unless, that is, you just want to pout.
 
one could say the same for the trite response of "you moved the goalposts... " to any comment to which you do not want to engage.

But since you're being all nitpicky. Where should the goal posts be? If one doesn't know that, one cannot be accused of moving them. And since you're the only one who seems to know where they are/should be, it would be nice if you'd share that little tidbit of information.

Unless, that is, you just want to pout.


​​​​​​No wonder you always argued and then agreed with DRM, you're a bitch. :flipoff2:
 
You are stupid because you don't have the capacity to think outside your mobile home.

If you test positive for a highly contagious virus and you don't feel it necessary, within your social contract with other freedom loving individuals, to quarantine yourself so that you are not actively contributing to the spread then, by all means, the .gov should come in and make you sit in the corner.

It has nothing to do with how many do die or don't die in the U.S. It has to do with the fact that your liberty comes with responsibility. Because you so openly choose to shirk your responsibility then the .gov has to come in and remove everyone's liberties.

I bet you are a lot of fun at parties.

It has everything to do with how many will or will not die. There's no reason to destroy our country over less than 200k lives that were close to death anyway. That's hard to hear/say I know, but it's the truth.
 
But since you're being all nitpicky. Where should the goal posts be? If one doesn't know that, one cannot be accused of moving them. And since you're the only one who seems to know where they are/should be, it would be nice if you'd share that little tidbit of information.

Unless, that is, you just want to pout.

I've already pointed out to you how your dimwitted attempt to argue was moving the goalposts. You now admit to moving said goalposts, let's see if you can become an adult and figure out the rest from where I POINTED OUT TO YOU YOUR DIMWITTED ATTEMPT TO ARGUE was moving the goalposts.

Comprehension of both what you read and what you post is necessary, so you might still be lost. Sorry
 
I bet you are a lot of fun at parties.

It has everything to do with how many will or will not die. There's no reason to destroy our country over less than 200k lives that were close to death anyway. That's hard to hear/say I know, but it's the truth.

It has zero to do with how many will or will not die. If you staying at home and not infecting others "destroys the country" then you haven't even entered into the discussion and are just rambling on arguing about things no one has said.

that's were the stupid comes from


edit: and I don't go to parties if I'm sick. I understand that my liberty to party comes with responsibilities of not infecting others
 
I've already pointed out to you how your dimwitted attempt to argue was moving the goalposts. You now admit to moving said goalposts, let's see if you can become an adult and figure out the rest from where I POINTED OUT TO YOU YOUR DIMWITTED ATTEMPT TO ARGUE was moving the goalposts.

Comprehension of both what you read and what you post is necessary, so you might still be lost. Sorry

Got it... anyone who disagrees or questions your statements is, by sheer definition, moving the goal posts.

Well, not that we're on that same page... Where is my point at all incorrect?

Oh... wait... i forgot... to even question you moves the goal posts again.
 
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