Border… I didnt see this one coming

[[486]]

So you’re saying that doors are irrelevant unless you are monitoring them?

Locked doors do not act as a deterrent?

basically

hell, even the walls of your house can probably be dug through with bare hands and sturdy boots
siding, OSB, drywall, none of it is particularly deterrent to someone who wants in

 

[ApeEater]

When was that bill proposed and by who and prove Trump sabotaged it. Just curious how he could do that with it saying ends Bidens catch and release and Trump not even being in office.

Fox Anchor Reminds GOP Senator Trump Killed His Border Deal

Sen. James Lankford’s negotiated immigration bill was tanked by Trump and his allies in Congress earlier this year.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[[486]]

so you want reform of laws that arent being enforced now?

uhh
you mean you like having 'diversity quotas' and asylum seekers and zero aptitude testing?
here's a hint: the immigration laws got absolutely FUCKED in '65

 

[[486]]

At the same time, legal immigration shouldn’t take ten years either.

yup
someone with skills worth half a shit, speaking gooder english than I do and already well on the way to assimilating? get the fuck in here
groups of hundreds of welfare-seekers "fleeing" from economic problems of their own causing? nah bro

 

[Pook]

This was a decent start. You have to end the motivation for coming in the first place. Amnesty courts shouldn’t take ten years. Catch & Release is an absurd policy.

At the same time, legal immigration shouldn’t take ten years either.

My friend who is Canadian, who lived here in BC and married a long time girlfriend that has dual citizenship, they have two kids, sold everything here and moved to Tennessee to be near her dad and brother, bought a out right house, and got settled in, took him 9 months to get a work visa, and he is still waiting to try and get citizenship almost 3 years later and I think has spent $15k already on an immigration lawyer.

No criminal record, no reason he shouldn't be allowed in. He is a journey men finish carpenter, has completed project management certifications. Not a free loader. He wants to work.

 

[Stuck]

Yes, so fix then in LAW not some worthless EO.

Are you completely retarded? The law is already there, theyre not following it.

 

[Motorcharge]

My friend who is Canadian, who lived here in BC and married a long time girlfriend that has dual citizenship, they have two kids, sold everything here and moved to Tennessee to be near her dad and brother, bought a out right house, and got settled in, took him 9 months to get a work visa, and he is still waiting to try and get citizenship almost 3 years later and I think has spent $15k already on an immigration lawyer.

No criminal record, no reason he shouldn't be allowed in. He is a journey men finish carpenter, has completed project management certifications. Not a free loader. He wants to work.

I mean to be fair, he's Canadian. I'm not sure we want those people here.

 

[[486]]

My friend who is Canadian, who lived here in BC and married a long time girlfriend that has dual citizenship, they have two kids, sold everything here and moved to Tennessee to be near her dad and brother, bought a out right house, and got settled in, took him 9 months to get a work visa, and he is still waiting to try and get citizenship almost 3 years later and I think has spent $15k already on an immigration lawyer.

No criminal record, no reason he shouldn't be allowed in. He is a journey men finish carpenter, has completed project management certifications. Not a free loader. He wants to work.

doesn't fit into the quota system

invest in a trip to the border checkpoint with the right words in his mouth, in fake poor inglaes instead of english
"I am seeking asylum I am a worthless drain on the welfare system I wish to vote"

the worthless support statist wealth redistribution bullshit
the worthwhile are those who will be robbed by an overbearing state
Who is the state going to give preferential treatment to when everyone's vote counts the same?

 

[87manche]

Walls are easily bypassed.

Landmines on the other hand are cheap and effective.

And before someone says think of the children, I did.
We need lighter trigger mechanisms for them.

 

[Thumping]

the useful idiots are the ones saying, "We waste lots of money, let's waste even more."

You do realize if you were as smart as you think you are, you'd still be a retard.

 

[Thumping]

sigh seriously? Have you simply not been paying attention?

So you have a problem with people saying, fuck you, we deserve more than fucking crumbs? Because the democrats "border bill" was basically just that. We're going to throw money at all the shit we want and yeah, here's a few pennies for the wall you want.

 

[arse_sidewards]

the worthless support statist wealth redistribution bullshit
the worthwhile are those who will be robbed by an overbearing state
Who is the state going to give preferential treatment to when everyone's vote counts the same?

No amount of laying out exactly what the incentives are will make stupid people not stupid.

 

[[486]]

No amount of laying out exactly what the incentives are will make stupid people not stupid.

yup
build the state its wall, it won't be used against you
fund the state's policy enforcement wing, it won't be used against you
be sure and vote to keep the idea of you voting on someone else's rights appearing legitimate, it won't be used against you

oh wait, it always has been and it always will be

 

[ApeEater]

So you have a problem with people saying, fuck you, we deserve more than fucking crumbs? Because the democrats "border bill" was basically just that. We're going to throw money at all the shit we want and yeah, here's a few pennies for the wall you want.

You think Lankford is a democrat? 🙄

As I said from the start, a wall is worthless without fixing the real problems. That bill was a decent start. It’s not perfect, but it’s a big step in the right direction.

 

[Archer]

You think Lankford is a democrat? 🙄

As I said from the start, a wall is worthless without fixing the real problems. That bill was a decent start. It’s not perfect, but it’s a big step in the right direction.

The real problem is our fucking border is wide open. Build the wall...................




.

 

[Texas97]

You think Lankford is a democrat? 🙄

As I said from the start, a wall is worthless without fixing the real problems. That bill was a decent start. It’s not perfect, but it’s a big step in the right direction.

screw that "step in the right direction" bullshit. the same horse shit we were fed about 10,000 pages of Obama Care. now that 12 years later insurance premiums have increased 20% each year instead of helping anyone, which was always a lie.

im only confident that a "not perfect" border bill is just going to work to crush the immigration system faster and then in 3 years and another 5 million illegals... oh we need to fix this! bull shit

 

[bgaidan]

You think Lankford is a democrat? 🙄

As I said from the start, a wall is worthless without fixing the real problems. That bill was a decent start. It’s not perfect, but it’s a big step in the right direction.

Which bill, exactly are you talking about? And what parts of said bill are you claiming would be effective?

 

[ApeEater]

Which bill, exactly are you talking about? And what parts of said bill are you claiming would be effective?

This was a decent start. You have to end the motivation for coming in the first place. Amnesty courts shouldn’t take ten years. Catch & Release is an absurd policy.

At the same time, legal immigration shouldn’t take ten years either.

screw that "step in the right direction" bullshit. the same horse shit we were fed about 10,000 pages of Obama Care. now that 12 years later insurance premiums have increased 20% each year instead of helping anyone, which was always a lie.

im only confident that a "not perfect" border bill is just going to work to crush the immigration system faster and then in 3 years and another 5 million illegals... oh we need to fix this! bull shit

Oh yes, it's much better the way it is today.

 

[fordguy]

get the fuck in here

done.

now you get the fuck out. Not enough room for the two of us

 

[Archer]

Oh yes, it's much better the way it is today.

No it's not, in case you missed it, close the fucking border...........period. We had an immigration policy, this admin threw it all out the window on day 1.





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[ApeEater]

Are you completely retarded? The law is already there, theyre not following it.

And congress has stripped funding to expand the amnesty and immigration courts, which has led to the 10 year timelines. Congress has to provide the funding with, gasp a fucking law.

 

[ApeEater]

No it's not, in case you missed it, close the fucking border...........period. We had an immigration policy, this admin threw it all out the window on day 1.





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You had executive orders. Now you know why executive orders are worthless.

 

[Filthy McChevy]

sigh seriously? Have you simply not been paying attention?

I get my news mostly here.

Fox Anchor Reminds GOP Senator Trump Killed His Border Deal

Sen. James Lankford’s negotiated immigration bill was tanked by Trump and his allies in Congress earlier this year.

www.thedailybeast.com

Subscribe to read/view. Negatory.

 

[ApeEater]

I get my news mostly here.

Subscribe to read/view. Negatory.

Try this: Fox News Anchor Reminds GOP Senator That Trump Killed His Border Deal

 

[Archer]

If you talking about the border deal that would let 5,000 in a day I don't think that's much of a plan. That 1.8 million/yr. That would be on top of the 1 million we allow in every year through the right channels.

Glad Trump helped axe it.
.

 

[Filthy McChevy]

I just read a few other things, even if the Senate approved it the House and OBiden would have to approve it too.
And a lot of others Independent of Trump were against it too, but no surprise some Talking heads blame mainly Trump.

 

[ApeEater]

If you talking about the border deal that would let 5,000 in a day I don't think that's much of a plan. That 1.8 million/yr. That would be on top of the 1 million we allow in every year through the right channels.

Glad Trump helped axe it.
.

You're right, we're definitely better with 10,000 a day coming in now, untracked. Definitely better.

 

[rockota]

If you talking about the border deal that would let 5,000 in a day I don't think that's much of a plan. That 1.8 million/yr. That would be on top of the 1 million we allow in every year through the right channels.

Glad Trump helped axe it.
.

The bill was horrible, in the end.

For those who are complaining about the "process" being broken and needing reform... What makes you think that a set of laws that are ignored by the Executive Branch, State and local governments, when replaced with new laws, would suddenly be followed?

 

[rockota]

You're right, we're definitely better with 10,000 a day coming in now, untracked. Definitely better.

Do you believe that codifying 5k/day in law would reduce the number to a max of 5k/day?

Especially given that 0/day is technically codified in law currently?

 

[ApeEater]

Do you believe that codifying 5k/day in law would reduce the number to a max of 5k/day?

Especially given that 0/day is technically codified in law currently?

Nowhere in the existing law are 0 immigrants codified in law.

edit: also, where is the 5,000 number listed in the law?

Edit2: I looked it up. It doesn't allow 5,000 migrants per day. It automatically stops ALL asylum requests if there are 5,000 migrants on average over a seven-day period. That 5,000 number is a secondary trigger to make it even more difficult to apply for asylum. It's literally what you're asking for.