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Filthy McChevy said:
Point is, that much was too much for Congress. And it would have helped in some key areas.
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yes, the dems are just as stupid for opposing ANY border wall as republicans are for proposing a full-length border wall.
 
Of all the ways we piss money down the drain, a wall is the least of my concern. Walls are simple and they work. Its old shit like the wheel. Chiner built a big one a long time ago. The pope hides behind one. The use them at prisons. Biden is even starting to put some wall up cause even the dumb ass dems know walls are helpful. Plus its a statement that we domt want any free loaders just walking their happy ass in for free stuff. The useful idiots are the ones arguing against a wall because “they dont work”
 
Animalmother said:
Of all the ways we piss money down the drain, a wall is the least of my concern. Walls are simple and they work. Its old shit like the wheel. Chiner built a big one a long time ago. The pope hides behind one. The use them at prisons. Biden is even starting to put some wall up cause even the dumb ass dems know walls are helpful. Plus its a statement that we domt want any free loaders just walking their happy ass in for free stuff. The useful idiots are the ones arguing against a wall because “they dont work”
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the useful idiots are the ones saying, "We waste lots of money, let's waste even more."
 
Whatever the wall would have cost would have been less than we are spending on all the services that we are giving illegals. This is what denver is giving illegals. They just took a closed veterans home and converted it to housing for illegals. They have no homless veterans there anymore?

Do US citizens get access to this as well or just illegals. If these bit cities had all this money sitting around why didn't they help americans that were struggling?
Now, Martinez, 28, and her two young kids, along with some 650 others in Denver, are being set up with an apartment with six months of rental, food and utility assistance, a free computer, a prepaid cell phone and metro bus passes.


Then, the city working in coordination with several nonprofits plan to provide courses on English language, computers, financial literacy, and workers rights, while also assisting migrants in getting credentialed in specific industries, like construction, retail, hospitality, health care and early childhood education. Martinez said she will take any job to support her kids.
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coloradosun.com

Denver launches ambitious new migrant program, breaking from the short-term shelter approach

New arrivals must wait 6 months for a work permit after applying for asylum. Denver will help them use that time to prepare for a new life.
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ApeEater said:
Without actually monitoring, you're playing whack-a-mole anyway.

Without actual immigration reform, you're playing whack-a-mole anyway.
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how about we just enforce our immigration laws we have now? instead we let the asylum seekers enter and illegally use the asylum process. thats illegal. but yet we wont deport criminals and those who have broken the law.

so you want reform of laws that arent being enforced now?
 
rockota said:
Is this another one of your “I’m trying to have an honest conversation” attempts? Its becoming your MO
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Just responding in kind.

Texas97 said:
how about we just enforce our immigration laws we have now? instead we let the asylum seekers enter and illegally use the asylum process. thats illegal. but yet we wont deport criminals and those who have broken the law.

so you want reform of laws that arent being enforced now?
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Yes, please.
 
ApeEater said:
oh, then by all means waste all the money! :homer: Who needs results for their spending anyway?
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God forbid the government spend money one of the 3 things they're supposed to spend it on vs the trillions they spend annually on everything else. :shaking: We spend more annually securing foreign nation's borders than we do our own.
 
nahmus said:
Whatever the wall would have cost would have been less than we are spending on all the services that we are giving illegals.
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Go fish.

How about both. Because that's where the money's going. Every service, every inch of secure fencing etc, is all coming out of your (and my) ass, every check.

We could build a wall from San Ysidro to Timbuktu and it won't stop them coming in. I, just like you, want a secure southern border. Reports say that December 23 saw 300,000 migrants enter. April saw 229,000. And that's in the western San Diego sector only. Those figures are FUKT UP... a quarter million a MONTH?

Whitey's doing this. :flipoff2:Fight me. :laughing:
 
Stuck said:
So which laws exactly do you want reformed? Please be specific.
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This was a decent start. You have to end the motivation for coming in the first place. Amnesty courts shouldn’t take ten years. Catch & Release is an absurd policy.

At the same time, legal immigration shouldn’t take ten years either.
 
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ApeEater said:
You have to end the motivation for coming in the first place.
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Nuke all entitlement payments, especially those for non-citizens.

It honestly blows my goddamned mind that the second half of that first sentence is even a topic
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We can find enough leeches domestically, no need to import unproductive folks.
 
ApeEater said:
This was a decent start. You have to end the motivation for coming in the first place. Amnesty courts shouldn’t take ten years. Catch & Release is an absurd policy.

At the same time, legal immigration shouldn’t take ten years either.
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Every single thing you posted is counter to what the law actually says is supposed to happen. Those are policies put in place by Obammie and continued by Biden. Trump tried to stop them and was rebuked by the courts in some situations because it was now precedent. The others issues he stopped were reversed when Dementia Joe took office and put a foriegn born activist in charge. You should actually learn the law before screaming it should be reformed.

Legal immigration should be extremely limited and only available to those who bring something to the table. We are far beyond the "give me your tired and poor" bullshit.
 
ApeEater said:
This was a decent start. You have to end the motivation for coming in the first place. Amnesty courts shouldn’t take ten years. Catch & Release is an absurd policy.

At the same time, legal immigration shouldn’t take ten years either.
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Everyone should be in charge, everyone.

Take all the laws on the books and let every entity enforce them, not just at the federal level. EVERY ONE of them. Highway patrol, state troopers, camps and parks dept, forest service, schools and universities, dept of prisons, city police, dept of probation, fuckin dept of health and human services, the transportation depts, hell... even social workers.

And allow US citizens to detain illegals, legally.

If whitey wants it's utopia, then whitey has to reclaim what once was. This is a white problem created by whites.

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1)Wall
2)However many mile wide DMZ
3)Predator Drones
4)???
5)Profit
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Or just annex MX all Russia style and build our wall down there. Keep our boys in the .mil close to home on their deployments securing our new states. They got oil, right??
 
JK13 said:
2)However many mile wide DMZ

:flipoff2:
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Big phat deep moat. Wide enough to become a shipping channel. United States sets up a port and levees fees to use this new international channel from the gulf to the Pacific. :grinpimp:


Alligators, sharks, whales, other predatory marine mammals start using it to commute to/fro acclimatized waters.


Sans wall, enforcement numbers, et al.
 
Stuck said:
Every single thing you posted is counter to what the law actually says is supposed to happen. Those are policies put in place by Obammie and continued by Biden. Trump tried to stop them and was rebuked by the courts in some situations because it was now precedent. The others issues he stopped were reversed when Dementia Joe took office and put a foriegn born activist in charge. You should actually learn the law before screaming it should be reformed.

Legal immigration should be extremely limited and only available to those who bring something to the table. We are far beyond the "give me your tired and poor" bullshit.
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Yes, so fix then in LAW not some worthless EO.
 
trampas said:
Big phat deep moat. Wide enough to become a shipping channel. United States sets up a port and levees fees to use this new international channel from the gulf to the Pacific. :grinpimp:


Alligators, sharks, whales, other predatory marine mammals start using it to commute to/fro acclimatized waters.


Sans wall, enforcement numbers, et al.
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Ha! I actually almost went with moat/panama2 with big medieval drawbridges we can lift up to lock down the border after sunset :flipoff2: Still keeping our badass Great Wall of America

Figured logistics would be easier with a DMZ but I love where your heads at
 
trampas said:
Everyone should be in charge, everyone.

Take all the laws on the books and let every entity enforce them, not just at the federal level. EVERY ONE of them. Highway patrol, state troopers, camps and parks dept, forest service, schools and universities, dept of prisons, city police, dept of probation, fuckin dept of health and human services, the transportation depts, hell... even social workers.
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Are you an idiot?

Having every enforcement agency activity enforcing each others rules would be an instant dystopia. Imagine your local cops actively going out of their way to enforce EPA and ATF bullshit because now instead of turning those cases over to Feds they don’t care about (as is the current status quo) they’re instead giving that evidence to the local DA they have a working relationship with.


Boomers like you failing to think about 2nd and 3rd order consequences of your ideas is how we got here in the first place.
 
ApeEater said:
Yes, so fix then in LAW not some worthless EO.
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So you have a problem with the laws put in place by the Democrats and you wish the Republican's would have helped Trump put a more permanent solution in place? #metoo
 
Mr.Ratbastard said:
So you have a problem with the laws put in place by the Democrats and you wish the Republican's would have helped Trump put a more permanent solution in place? #metoo
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Trump actively sabotaged the bill I linked. Try again.
 
trampas said:
Everyone should be in charge, everyone.

Take all the laws on the books and let every entity enforce them, not just at the federal level. EVERY ONE of them. Highway patrol, state troopers, camps and parks dept, forest service, schools and universities, dept of prisons, city police, dept of probation, fuckin dept of health and human services, the transportation depts, hell... even social workers.
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Filthy McChevy said:
When was that bill proposed and by who and prove Trump sabotaged it. Just curious how he could do that with it saying ends Bidens catch and release and Trump not even being in office.
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sigh seriously? Have you simply not been paying attention?
 
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