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Border… I didnt see this one coming

Thumping said:
A guarded wall with orders to fire....yes.
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a wall will work and does work. its always been proven. why is San Diego now the number one crossing?

Because the Texas regions where it was the highest put up "walls". Floating barrier in the rio, razor wire on the bank, 18 foot tall steel fence panels... so where are the crossings now going to happen?

some place where there is no wall.
 
Texas97 said:
a wall will work and does work. its always been proven. why is San Diego now the number one crossing?

Because the Texas regions where it was the highest put up "walls". Floating barrier in the rio, razor wire on the bank, 18 foot tall steel fence panels... so where are the crossings now going to happen?

some place where there is no wall.
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There's a wall in San Diego proper. Crossing locations change regularly. They change based on people patrolling, not inanimate barriers.

My point is, a wall is worthless without actually doing something to monitor and deter crossings. All of which is irrelevant once the people crossing claim asylum anyway.
 
ApeEater said:
There's a wall in San Diego proper. Crossing locations change regularly. They change based on people patrolling, not inanimate barriers.

My point is, a wall is worthless without actually doing something to monitor and deter crossings. All of which is irrelevant once the people crossing claim asylum anyway.
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well, if you read what i posted, these people came across in Jacumba, CA, which is the San Diego sector, and has no wall in Jacumba.

they arent crossing where there are physical barriers, they are crossing where there are none/.
 
Texas97 said:
they arent crossing where there are physical barriers, they are crossing where there are none
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WAIT - are you saying making entry effortless encourages illegal entry?

And that physical barriers discourage illegal entry into our country? :eek:

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Huh, who'd'a thunkit? :homer::laughing:
 
Texas97 said:
well, if you read what i posted, these people came across in Jacumba, CA, which is the San Diego sector, and has no wall in Jacumba.

they arent crossing where there are physical barriers, they are crossing where there are none/.
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ExWrench said:
WAIT - are you saying making entry effortless encourages illegal entry?

And that physical barriers discourage illegal entry into our country? :eek:


Huh, who'd'a thunkit? :homer::laughing:
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And still... a wall is worthless without actually doing something to monitor and deter crossings. All of which is also irrelevant once the people crossing claim asylum anyway.
 
ApeEater said:
And still... a wall is worthless without actually doing something to monitor and deter crossings.
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Yeah, so let's do that :homer:

Do you agree that having an intact border wall is helpful?

ApeEater said:
All of which is also irrelevant once the people crossing claim asylum anyway.
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So keep 'em the fuck out & keep the ear plugs in.

If you want asylum, you go to a legit location & apply.

Jesus Crisco, this isn't rocket surgery. Or "red rover" :laughing:
 
ApeEater said:
And still... a wall is worthless without actually doing something to monitor and deter crossings. All of which is also irrelevant once the people crossing claim asylum anyway.
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I think we should require some sort of tribute to claim asylum. A toe or a finger, maybe make them walk across a floor strewn with Lego, something to prove their desperation.
 
ExWrench said:
Yeah, so let's do that :homer:

Do you agree that having an intact border wall is helpful?
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In places, absolutely. Across 2000 miles of border at billions of dollars in expense, no.
rockota said:
do you lock the doors on your house?
or... why do you even have doors on your house?
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Yes, and I even monitor my property and respond accordingly. That second step is what's missing.

ExWrench said:
That's all irrelevant once the people breaking in claim squatter's rights :flipoff2:
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we don't do that shit here.
 
ApeEater said:
In places, absolutely. Across 2000 miles of border at billions of dollars in expense, no.

Yes, and I even monitor my property and respond accordingly. That second step is what's missing.


we don't do that shit here.
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So you’re saying that doors are irrelevant unless you are monitoring them?

Locked doors do not act as a deterrent?
 
ApeEater said:
you think there's a lot of unmotivated people crossing the border?
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i guess it depends on which NGO drove them to the crossing, gave them provisions, coached them, and dropped them off there to ask for asylum.
 
ApeEater said:
In places, absolutely. Across 2000 miles of border at billions of dollars in expense, no.

Yes, and I even monitor my property and respond accordingly. That second step is what's missing.


we don't do that shit here.
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They money is going to get spent regardless. I'd rather it be spent on something to "help" us rather than some other country....where it is being spent. Remember, 4 billion for Trump was too much but 40 billion for Ukraine isn't enough.
 
ExWrench said:
No, I'm saying: use the border to filter out the unmotivated, then kill the criminals who violate our border.

I don't know if you're trying to argue from the defeatist or bleeding-heart standpoint, but it's coming across 'tarded.
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I'm arguing against wasting billions of dollars on wall construction in places where it's not needed.

I'm not saying a border wall/barrier/fence/whatever isn't needed in places. And mostly, that a wall is about the lease effective thing we can be spending money on. We need actual reform for the immigration and asylum processes.
 
ApeEater said:
I'm arguing against wasting billions of dollars on wall construction in places where it's not needed.

I'm not saying a border wall/barrier/fence/whatever isn't needed in places.
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Ahhh, I take it you favor a good game of Whack-a-Mole, do ya?
 
ExWrench said:
Ahhh, I take it you favor a good game of Whack-a-Mole, do ya?
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Without actually monitoring, you're playing whack-a-mole anyway.

Without actual immigration reform, you're playing whack-a-mole anyway.
 
ApeEater said:
I'm arguing against wasting billions of dollars on wall construction in places where it's not needed.

I'm not saying a border wall/barrier/fence/whatever isn't needed in places. And mostly, that a wall is about the lease effective thing we can be spending money on. We need actual reform for the immigration and asylum processes.
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No on 5 billion for our Border, yes on 80+ Billion for Ukraines? Corrupt Politico math .:mad3:

Echoing again but oh well.:flipoff2:
 
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