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Oh, no. You guys are wrong. That truss was designed by a highly edumacated structual engineer. :flipoff2:

Those top beams sat there for a week with a few nails holding them before they added the supports. They are 8x10.5 laminated, heavy as fuck beams. The long beams are 37' long, I think. The truss is roughly 72x8.

The smaller angled beams are being held in place by framing nails. They had to order the 1/2"x16" bolts because nobody had any in black locally.
 
Oh, no. You guys are wrong. That truss was designed by a highly edumacated structual engineer. :flipoff2:

Those top beams sat there for a week with a few nails holding them before they added the supports. They are 8x10.5 laminated, heavy as fuck beams. The long beams are 37' long, I think. The truss is roughly 72x8.

The smaller angled beams are being held in place by framing nails. They had to order the 1/2"x16" bolts because nobody had any in black locally.
Dang ole engineers :lmao:
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that stacked horizontal beam is doing nothing, but blocking your view. but it is a badass porch.
They forgot to put that beam in and had the vertical and top beams placed. We talked about leaving it out, but it looks a lot better with it there. The truss is over 10' tall. It looked too flimsy without the stacked beam. The peeler posts it sits on are 8' tall for reference.
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The patio has conduit under the concrete to the corner outside the master for a spa. Eventually that spa will go away and there will be a pool and spa in front of the patio. It's also plumbed for a outdoor kitchen island which will get framed and stucco like the house. I still need to decide on the BBQ, sink and under counter beer fridge for that before its framed. It will have a live edge wood counter top. A friend who has a ranch five miles south has a mill and a bunch of logs. He's cut a bunch of slabs for me to pick through. He cut two beautiful mantels for me, for the inside/outside fireplaces, but decided to use poured concrete mantels and step the chimney in like this picture. Not the stone work, that's ugly. It will be river rock up to the mantel, then stucco or drywall above.
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The main reason for the concrete mantel is its noncombustable. It can be 6-8" above the fireplace. A combustible mantel has to be a minimum of 12" above and the fireplace is tall. There are going to be big screens inside and outside above the mantel, so a noncombustable mantel lowers the overall height.

I know, having TV's above the mantel is gay, stupid, too high, whatever, but there isn't much wall space with all the windows, sliders and barn doors.
 
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Super nice

Also, assuming you dont have to worry about osha drive bys there?
 
Super nice

Also, assuming you dont have to worry about osha drive bys there?
You don't think that home made man cage unsecured on the forks, 20' off the ground with no safety gear would pass?:flipoff2:

They used it to place the beams. Two guys in the cage with a 35' long beam resting on top of the rails. Bent the shit out of the rails. The boss was too cheap to send out his crane. Watching that made me a little nervous. I stayed a healthy distance away.
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You don't think that home made man cage unsecured on the forks, 20' off the ground with no safety gear would pass?:flipoff2:

They used it to place the beams. Two guys in the cage with a 35' long beam resting on top of the rails. Bent the shit out of the rails. The boss was too cheap to send out his crane. Watching that made me a little nervous. I stayed a healthy distance away.
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I always went to lunch for that kinda shit:lmao:


Thanks for sharing , awesome house
 
The framer crew boss said its the largest truss they've ever built. Said whenever he drives past on the highway he can say "I built that". They have been in business for 25 years.
 
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m I looking at that wrong? The beam through the cage? How TF they get the man basket out after sat, or they just mocking up and cutting ends to be legit then set for reals? Reminds me of Jim Dangle's bike frame on the light pole.
 
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The truss plates are temporary to pass inspection. The engineer specified Simpson and their custom order pieces are stupid money. I'll make some cardboard templates and have a buddy cut out a custom set with his plasma table.

Got some cowboys to fence in about 20 acres around the house. A good sized wash splits my property and I'm only fencing the side with the house. They used a horse to pull wire after I asked them to be mindful of causing excess damage to the shrubbery.
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The truss plates are temporary to pass inspection. The engineer specified Simpson and their custom order pieces are stupid money. I'll make some cardboard templates and have a buddy cut out a custom set with his plasma table.
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I did mine free hand, as my plasma table buddy was too busy, and my stuff isn't set up yet... but I do highly recommend making them out of plywood or osb and then handing them off to your buddy





Looking F'N great! Love that huge porch:smokin:
 
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I did mine free hand, as my plasma table buddy was too busy, and my stuff isn't set up yet... but I do highly recommend making them out of plywood or osb and then handing them off to your buddy





Looking F'N great! Love that huge porch:smokin:
Good idea. I got lots of OSB scraps. I had the framers pile up all the scrap wood, and anything that wasn't going back to the supplier. I have enough to make my well pump house. It's going to be 4'x8', 4' high with a hinged removable roof. It's directly in the view of my closest neighbor, about 300 yards from his big picture window, so I don't want anything taller than the mesquite. I'll burn whatever I don't use.
 
The framer and truss company were arguing about who's fault it is that the trusses aren't square on the bottom. Truss company eventually agreed it was their fault when the framer pointed out they haven't attached them to the inside load bearing walls yet. They then decided they didn't want to touch them until the roof was loaded. Framer says the trusses won't settle more than 1/4" and they are full of shit. He says they want to wait because it will be 20 degrees cooler in a month.

So we press onward. HVAC starting tomorrow, fireplace installation on Monday, windows and sliders sometime next week, then plumbing and electrical. After plumbing the roofers will seal and load the roof, then let it sit for a month before the stucco guys do their thing. Framers will come back after the fireplace is installed and frame around it, and finish up all the detail work. Maybe two days with two people.

It's moving along. After the dramatic daily changes of framing, the rest will seem like slow motion.

Pic of the shop patio. Or, the combo beer drinking, hanging out, shooting range (not necessarily at the same time) patio. I have my 100, 300 and 500 yard targets ranged to the edge.
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The garage is offset 5' to create this 12x11' patio outside the work area of the garage. The contractor wants to cut a peeler post in half lengthwise and attach it to the wall, then run a beam from the top of the patio post to the wall. He thinks it looks unfinished, but I like it being open. This side might look good, but the other side is only 4' wide due to the offset shop. I think it will take up too much space and kill the open look.

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I'll have to look at this for a month or so. He's usually right about things, but this time I'm not sure.
 
Very interesting on the Framer vs Truss Company topic :confused:

As for the peeler post, time for some CAD (cardboard aided design) work. "Build" a cardboard peeler post about the same size as would be used in that spot and hang/tape it to the wall. Makes for a cheap visual representation either way.
 
I took one of the 2' long peeler post cut offs and cut it down the middle. I stacked them against the wall, and put a 2x10 across as a faux beam. Didn't like how it closed in the end of the patio.

Fireplace got installed. The box weighs almost 1,000 pounds. All but three of the windows and sliders got installed. Framers need to fix the openings before the rest can go in. They also need to frame the fireplace. Framers were supposed to be there today but no showed.

Electricians are doing their thing. They love the house. The boss said it's the most custom, custom house he's ever done. He's a hot rod guy. I told him if I missed anything to tell me. He has come up with additions and modifications to the plans that will save me money. Also some cool stuff, like recessing a 50 amp RV plug box into one of the peeler posts, and adding a mini panel at the spa shut off so we can use the same wiring if I add a pool someday. We spent some time today figuring out how to wire some mini stadium LED's I want at the corners and peak of the front patio. The switch is in the master so if I hear a ruckus or something unusual going on at night I can light up the entire 41 acre parcel.

The main panel is big, 40 slots. Should have about 15 left over for future stuff. Sub house panel is nearly full. They have ran 5,000' of wire so far.

Water line has been pressure tested and buried. Water line guys are also underground and concrete guys. They had a brand new Cat track loader out there. I asked them about cutting me a trail from the back of the pad to the south easement for the power company. It would also make it easy to access that side of the property. I came back a few hours later and they made me a road I think I could get the RV up.

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Smooth-ish stucco, spray foam ceilings, fiberglass in the walls.

Entry doors came in. The three window frames that were not framed correctly have been fixed. Should be able to secure the house by the end of the week. I'm moving the RV to the property on Friday. The RV park life is not for me and it's starting to cool off. I also finally got the agreement from the power company. Of course it's been two days since I left a message with them asking when and where I can go sign a printed copy, and drop off the deposit check.
 
Smooth-ish stucco, spray foam ceilings, fiberglass in the walls.

Entry doors came in. The three window frames that were not framed correctly have been fixed. Should be able to secure the house by the end of the week. I'm moving the RV to the property on Friday. The RV park life is not for me and it's starting to cool off. I also finally got the agreement from the power company. Of course it's been two days since I left a message with them asking when and where I can go sign a printed copy, and drop off the deposit check.
No critique at all, but genuine curiosity. Why did you elect to go with a hybrid approach for insulation? Also, Open Cell or Closed Cell spray foam?

Seems like the majority of the barndo style builds here in Tennessee only use spray foam (least the ones posted in a very popular FaceSpace group anyway), with a small minority using fiberglass, and smaller minority using the hybrid approach.
 
Smooth-ish stucco, spray foam ceilings, fiberglass in the walls.

Just some food for thought, do NOT let the foamers encapsulate the rafters / top cords. Make sure you have that conversation with them before they start. They'll tell you all about thermal bridging, its bullshit in that context.

If you ever get termites you won't know until its too late. I surveyed a 6yr old, 14K sqft home that had to do total tear off because of that.

On a personal note, I'd foam the exterior walls or rock wool before doing fiberglass, if I could swing the coin.

Love the build
 
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