BDK
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My opinion of him has drastically changed. Didn't even try to charge me. I wish I was in town before they poured the concrete. I might have been able to talk him out of those ugly patio post base plates.
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Barndominium or Shopdominium Steel Building Experience?
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ridered3
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Levigarrett76
Zeus of the Sluice
BDK
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Had a different guy come out from the power company. He brought a surveyor with him. He plotted the pole locations while we were walking around. He explained what they could and could not do, which is what I wanted from the original guy. We also shaved 250' off the power line run, which translates to about $7,000 I get to keep. They should have it approved in a few days, then I should finally get power in about two weeks.
House is dried in. Roof tiles and drywall to be delivered this week. Insulation will be done this week. Roof will get loaded about two weeks before drywall gets mud.
From the S/W corner of the property
Truss company was out. They had to even out five of the living room trusses. One of them came screaming out of the house like a little girl yelling "snake". A 2' rattlesnake was in the master, you'd think subs would be used to that out here.
I was flushing out the water lines and noticed this spigot isn't centered in the wall between the garage doors. Now, it's bugging me. I asked the plumber to fix it and he said he wasn't sure when he could get out here for that. I told him I would do it myself since all it would take was sweating off the spigot and moving the pipe to the other side of the stud where its supposed to be. He told me to not touch his stuff, and is coming out tomorrow.
House is dried in. Roof tiles and drywall to be delivered this week. Insulation will be done this week. Roof will get loaded about two weeks before drywall gets mud.
From the S/W corner of the property
Truss company was out. They had to even out five of the living room trusses. One of them came screaming out of the house like a little girl yelling "snake". A 2' rattlesnake was in the master, you'd think subs would be used to that out here.
I was flushing out the water lines and noticed this spigot isn't centered in the wall between the garage doors. Now, it's bugging me. I asked the plumber to fix it and he said he wasn't sure when he could get out here for that. I told him I would do it myself since all it would take was sweating off the spigot and moving the pipe to the other side of the stud where its supposed to be. He told me to not touch his stuff, and is coming out tomorrow.
Projectjunkie
Whatever
Good catch on the spigot
I had a "belt line" popout added to my stucco project. I told the lath guy where to put it, he did. I was screwing around in the yard and caught it from a different angle and realized it would end under a window and annoy me forever
He added onto it for me
That place is looking killer
I had a "belt line" popout added to my stucco project. I told the lath guy where to put it, he did. I was screwing around in the yard and caught it from a different angle and realized it would end under a window and annoy me forever
He added onto it for me
That place is looking killer
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ridered3
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Looks great and always amazing to see what has been accomplished without power!
BDK
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The garage door openings are going to be stucco "framed", but not the sliders and windows. The man door on the back wall will probably be stucco framed. There is a lot going on already with all the glass and patios in the residence part so keeping everything flush. Only exception is we doubled up the wall board above where the outside mantel is going to add a little dimension to the wall to create a fake chimney. I'm considering adding a belt line below the eaves on the back wall because it's so flat. I got a few days to think about that.
BDK
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Too subtle?
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Waste of spray paint. Electricians will read it and throw more trash all over. Everyone else only reads Spanish.
BDK
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I picked up 75% of the trash after the framers finished. Then, the roofing and stucco guys let the wind blow their shit all over the place. The contractor went off on the subs after that. I pointed out a food bag to one of the subs that was over a half mile into state trust land, and how my wash is full of trash. I walked up onto the back embankment and could see foam board pieces 100's of yards into the BLM land. The contractor is threatening he is going to hire some laborers to pick up trash and bill it back to the subs if they don't clean it up. He is one of the contractors the subs like working for because he has been in the business a long time, and he's honest and fair. Will see how that goes.
The stucco guys that were here today were more careful than before, but that foam board doesn't take a lot of wind to get carried off. I know I'll be finding construction debris and trash for years.
Before we started building this area was near pristine. In the few years I've owned it I have walked all of it. All I found were three mylar balloons, two old rusty beer cans, three old bottles, and a few pieces of metal.
After I had about half the 41 acre lot fenced, the subs kept leaving the gates open. My neighbor is a old cowboy type. He came over when I wasn't here and cussed the subs out because he had to chase range cattle out two days in a row. Now most of them close the gates.
BDK
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A local audio-visual, alarm and camera installer is meeting me Tuesday. I want to get estimates for all three. Thinking of a decent alarm, a few outside cameras, and a commercial sound system. Speakers in the great room, front patio, garage shop area and the garage patio/range. Speakers can play music from multiple sources, and act as a surround sound for the TV's.
Clemson13
Evernoob is a douchcanoe
Sounds like its already the plan, but let me reiterate:
Get the alarm hardwired EVERYWHERE now (at least for door and window contacts). Run some wire out to the garage / shop roll up doors too for track contactors. . Im putting in hardwired contacts all over the house and its miserable in a finished house. Pulling Cat6 for cameras after the fact is much easier than putting in hardwired alarm contactors.
Same with Cat6 everywhere for cameras & wifi access points.
45acp
naw man
Your money not mine- go line arrays in the shop.
Wait... its going to have vehicles sitting in there. Go ceiling mount line arrays in the shop.
And 3 times the sub you think you'll need.
I know you're on vacant property, but folks could move in one day... you could wind up with a neighbor like me that makes you listen to Acid Bath or whatever with my more dominant shop system. Start off now being the lord. Go piss on the corner of your property line with 2 eminence 18's and an amp with a fan.
Wait... its going to have vehicles sitting in there. Go ceiling mount line arrays in the shop.
And 3 times the sub you think you'll need.
I know you're on vacant property, but folks could move in one day... you could wind up with a neighbor like me that makes you listen to Acid Bath or whatever with my more dominant shop system. Start off now being the lord. Go piss on the corner of your property line with 2 eminence 18's and an amp with a fan.
ridered3
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BDK
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I have a feeling the estimate will be stupid high. I've had a wi-fi based alarm and camera system for 7 years at the other house and it's worked very well. I don't know anyone who actually has an alarm and/or camera system in this area. Most people don't even lock their doors when they leave. The house is 1,000' up a driveway behind a gate. Residential burglary is almost non-existent here because people who break into houses get shot. The sheriff encourages it, even offers to come clean up the mess for free.
Anyhow
I talked to a friend of mine that's a everything electronic guru. He told me if the estimate is stupid high to switch to DIY mode.
I have been happy with my wi-fi based alarm, so I could install one of those with this house.
The only place I can think of for cameras would be on each corner of the patios facing out. I already have what the electrician is calling Christmas light outlets at each corner. I could easily run CAT6 to each outlet.
I could get speaker wire, a staple gun and a 14' ladder, and run that myself as well, even though it will be a lot of wiring. I figure 14 speakers minimum (4-8 at front patio, 4 in great room, 2 at garage patio, 4-6 in garage).
My electrician told me not to buy any wire or conduit. He can get it for me wholesale and goes to the gettin' place daily. I could have him pick up everything I need with a days notice. He's a cool guy who loves the house. Heck, he hasn't picked up his scissor lift. If it's still here I can use that.
DIY-ing it would save me a bunch of money, and it would allow me to wire it now and do the installation later when I get around to it.
Electrician showed me a neat trick for wiring you want to go through the drywall without a outlet, like for speakers or garage door opener controllers, etc. Most of you probably already know this, but I didn't.
This is CAT5 the electrician uses for garage door opener controllers. He said it's cheaper than the duplex wire, and comes with three backup sets of wire. He also uses it for the garage door sensors. It's inside the walls, all fancy and shit. Drywallers will do their drywall thing and leave it poking out.
Anyhow
I talked to a friend of mine that's a everything electronic guru. He told me if the estimate is stupid high to switch to DIY mode.
I have been happy with my wi-fi based alarm, so I could install one of those with this house.
The only place I can think of for cameras would be on each corner of the patios facing out. I already have what the electrician is calling Christmas light outlets at each corner. I could easily run CAT6 to each outlet.
I could get speaker wire, a staple gun and a 14' ladder, and run that myself as well, even though it will be a lot of wiring. I figure 14 speakers minimum (4-8 at front patio, 4 in great room, 2 at garage patio, 4-6 in garage).
My electrician told me not to buy any wire or conduit. He can get it for me wholesale and goes to the gettin' place daily. I could have him pick up everything I need with a days notice. He's a cool guy who loves the house. Heck, he hasn't picked up his scissor lift. If it's still here I can use that.
DIY-ing it would save me a bunch of money, and it would allow me to wire it now and do the installation later when I get around to it.
Electrician showed me a neat trick for wiring you want to go through the drywall without a outlet, like for speakers or garage door opener controllers, etc. Most of you probably already know this, but I didn't.
This is CAT5 the electrician uses for garage door opener controllers. He said it's cheaper than the duplex wire, and comes with three backup sets of wire. He also uses it for the garage door sensors. It's inside the walls, all fancy and shit. Drywallers will do their drywall thing and leave it poking out.
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BDK
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Dude!
I already pissed on the property line corners, didn't take a stereo with me though. It's 47 acres, nearest house is 1/3 mile away and I own all the dirt in between. I guess it's possible a new owner might challenge me for musical dominance, but I'll deal with that if it comes up.
Edit: out of curiosity I looked up line array speakers. I'm planning on a few thousand for the entire system, not for each speaker.
BDK
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.45ACP might
BDK
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Insulation guys are out here today. At least they are blasting classic hard rock and not that Mexican techno crap the stucco guys listen to.
BDK
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Wall insulation is being done today.
The AV, alarm, camera guy came out today. He talked me out of wired cameras and alarms. He said no one breaks into houses out here, especially when they are behind gates. He said a wi-fi alarm and camera would work just fine, especially with Starlink. He said he would be happy to sell me a $1,200 camera system for one camera pointed at the gate, but I don't need it.
The stereo system he can pre wire for under $1,000. 4 speakers in the great room ceiling, 4 in the main patio ceiling, 2 at the garage patio, and 3 or 4 in the garage. The wire would cost me half that, so that's a go. He said I can have them install everything, or he can recommend a system and I can do whatever I want myself later.
The AV, alarm, camera guy came out today. He talked me out of wired cameras and alarms. He said no one breaks into houses out here, especially when they are behind gates. He said a wi-fi alarm and camera would work just fine, especially with Starlink. He said he would be happy to sell me a $1,200 camera system for one camera pointed at the gate, but I don't need it.
The stereo system he can pre wire for under $1,000. 4 speakers in the great room ceiling, 4 in the main patio ceiling, 2 at the garage patio, and 3 or 4 in the garage. The wire would cost me half that, so that's a go. He said I can have them install everything, or he can recommend a system and I can do whatever I want myself later.
BDK
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Clemson13
Evernoob is a douchcanoe
BDK
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Never had a house with insulated interior walls before. Now I can really see the rooms. I think I did good with the design. Large rooms, no wasted space, and I can see out all four sliders from the back of the kitchen/great room. The brown insulation darkened the interior way up, but when the drywall goes in it should be fine. Master closet looks huge, but it will be more proportional when the double vanity and island are installed.
Great room from kitchen/back wall.
Master from patio slider
Looking into master from great room patio slider
Office from great room
Guest bath from great room
The AV guy gave me a acceptable estimate to wire the house, garage and patios for sound, and to run CAT6 to the corners of the patios if I ever decide to hard wire a camera system. I was going to do it myself, but we start drywalling next week and they can wire it in a day. I can install the stereo system and speakers at a later date. We talked and walked around the house looking at potential stereo unit locations. I don’t want it visible, so it limits options. We settled on the linen closet in the spare bath. It's big for a guest bathroom linen closet. We are going to dedicate a shelf to the stereo unit and accessories. With Bluetooth and IR remote sensors, I don't need to see it. It's the most central location. I already ran 110v power to the closet even though the electrician told me not to touch his stuff, because it's actually my stuff. There is an outlet in the same wall for the guest room, so it was maybe 3' of wire and a box. The electrician hasn't been back to pick up scrap so I scrounged what I needed out of there. Electrician recycles all his scrap wire. He bought his second work truck with scrap wire money.
Great room from kitchen/back wall.
Master from patio slider
Looking into master from great room patio slider
Office from great room
Guest bath from great room
The AV guy gave me a acceptable estimate to wire the house, garage and patios for sound, and to run CAT6 to the corners of the patios if I ever decide to hard wire a camera system. I was going to do it myself, but we start drywalling next week and they can wire it in a day. I can install the stereo system and speakers at a later date. We talked and walked around the house looking at potential stereo unit locations. I don’t want it visible, so it limits options. We settled on the linen closet in the spare bath. It's big for a guest bathroom linen closet. We are going to dedicate a shelf to the stereo unit and accessories. With Bluetooth and IR remote sensors, I don't need to see it. It's the most central location. I already ran 110v power to the closet even though the electrician told me not to touch his stuff, because it's actually my stuff. There is an outlet in the same wall for the guest room, so it was maybe 3' of wire and a box. The electrician hasn't been back to pick up scrap so I scrounged what I needed out of there. Electrician recycles all his scrap wire. He bought his second work truck with scrap wire money.
BDK
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The kitchen and great room share walls with the bedrooms, laundry and spare bathroom. The only walls that weren't insulated were the master bathroom/closet and master bathroom/strong room.
Me too. It's going to be after the house is finished, and I move in. Not a big priority, so it could be a year from now.
ridered3
Low Talent Wheelin
Insulated interior walls (shared ones anyway) is going to make a big difference in noise level for sure. It's something I wish our current house had for shared walls, but will be a must if we ever build a house.