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They made all kinds of petroglyphs depicting all sorts of activities, even mundane daily life type stuff. Why aren't there any petroglyphs showing the building of pyramids? Why is there lots of water erosion on the wall of the Great Sphinx? Dr. Robert Schoch thought he was going to go to Egypt with John Anthony West and quickly show him proof that his theories were wrong. He was shocked to find that... holy fuck. Yeah, this shit is a LOT older than archaeologists claim. He was looking at the sites purely as a geologist with no concern for trying to explain the history. He was purely just looking at the weathering of the rock.

I've read that too. That the Sphinx is way older than most say.

As far as no petroglyphs of the building of the pyramids....................if your job requires you to be squished into a liquid............you're not telling anyone what your job.........was.
 
I've read that too. That the Sphinx is way older than most say.

As far as no petroglyphs of the building of the pyramids....................if your job requires you to be squished into a liquid............you're not telling anyone what your job.........was.

Schoch was dumbfounded by the response from archaeologists smuggly dismissing him and telling him he couldn't possibly be right since he couldn't point out what civilization could've possibly built them then. He was basically like, guys that's not my fucking problem. I'm a geologist, it's up to you to figure out the human history of this shit. I just know how rock weathers and that's water erosion from centuries of precipitation and this area has been a desert for way longer than you claim it has existed so you're fucking wrong and there's the proof.
 
exactly

If there was some kind of miraculous zero point energy device or medical devices that would revolutionize the industry that he says exist....someone would have leaked the technology and capitalized on it. Big time.

This is probably the vid you are talking about:



He just sounds like he's rattling off technical jargon that doesn't make any sense

 
Well working out here in Roswell New Mexican. Hot as fuck but haven’t seen any aliens. Maybe a few illegal ones
 
"We have conquered insurmountable technological obstacles to visit and shove things up your ass."
 
Pretty good article putting this thing into perspective.


The decades-long saga of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) is barreling headlong toward one of two stunning conclusions.

Either the U.S. government has mounted an extraordinary, decades-long coverup of UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering activities, or elements of the defense and intelligence establishment are engaging in a staggeringly brazen psychological disinformation campaign.


Either possibility would have profound implications for democracy, the role of government and perhaps also humanity’s place in the cosmos.

For these reasons, it is imperative that Congress and federal law enforcement agencies devote significant resources to investigating a series of remarkable UFO-related developments.

Importantly, a third explanation for recent events — that dozens of high-level, highly-cleared officials have come to believe enduring UFO myths, rumors and speculation as fact — appears increasingly unlikely.

In June, U.S. Air Force veteran and former intelligence official David Grusch alleged that elements of the U.S. government have secretly and illegally overseen a decades-long UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering effort. Two defense officials corroborated the broad contours of Grusch’s stunning claims.

Grusch has stated that he provided a wealth of highly classified evidence to the powerful internal investigative agencies overseeing the Department of Defense and the U.S intelligence community, but he has not presented any such evidence publicly.

However, the officials and lawmakers who have reviewed Grusch’s classified evidence are taking his extraordinary allegations seriously.


The inspector general of the intelligence community deemed Grusch’s allegations that UFO-related information was inappropriately concealed from Congress “credible and urgent.” Senate Intelligence Vice Chairman Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) confirmed the inspector general’s finding.

I. Charles McCullough, III, the intelligence community’s first inspector general and now an attorney in private practice, represents Grusch and sat directly behind him during a July 26 congressional hearing. It is extremely unlikely that such a high-profile lawyer and former top federal official would represent anyone making the kinds of extraordinary claims that Grusch is without robust evidence.

When asked during the July 26 congressional hearing whether he believes that the U.S. government possesses UFOs, Grusch stated, “Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years.”


Grusch continued, “I know the exact locations [of retrieved UFOs], and those locations were provided to the inspector general and…to the [congressional] intelligence committees.” Critically, Grusch stated, “I actually had the people with the first-hand knowledge provide a protected disclosure to the inspector general.”

It is unlikely that Grusch, speaking to Congress under oath, would perjure himself so brazenly over such specific, falsifiable facts, particularly with his high-profile attorney sitting directly behind him.

To that end, it is safe to assume that more than three dozen individuals did indeed tell Grusch of a decades-long UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering program, and that those with “first-hand knowledge” provided corroborating information to the intelligence community inspector general.


One theory for Grusch’s allegations is that the individuals he interviewed became convinced that decades-old myths and rumors of ultra-secret UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering programs are true. However, given the significant penalties for making false statements to an inspector general, it is extremely unlikely that multiple high-level, highly-cleared officials would falsely claim to have first-hand knowledge of myths and rumors.

Rubio and Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.), a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, have stated that multiple individuals with first-hand knowledge of Grusch’s allegations have spoken to Congress.

Rubio put it succinctly: “Either what [Grusch] is saying is partially true or entirely true, or we have some really smart, educated people with high clearances and very important positions in our government who are crazy and are leading us on a goose chase.”


“Most of these people,” Rubio continued, “have held very high clearances and high positions within our government. So, you ask yourself: ‘What incentive would so many people with that kind of qualification — these are serious people — have to come forward and make something up?’”

This leaves two extraordinary possibilities — that Grusch is correct and elements within and outside of the U.S. government oversee a decades-old UFO retrieval and reverse-engineering effort – a profound, paradigm-shifting development — or, to quote Grusch, “multiple esteemed and credentialed current and former” government officials “with a long-standing track record of legitimacy and service to this country” are engaging in a brazen disinformation campaign.

For their part, key lawmakers are taking Grusch’s allegations extremely seriously.


On July 13, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) introduced a measure that asserts eminent domain over “any and all recovered technologies of unknown origin…that may be controlled by private persons or entities.” It also defines and contains two dozen references to “non-human intelligence,” a term used frequently by Grusch to denote the uncertain origin of highly advanced technology allegedly retrieved. Such efforts are referred to as a “legacy program” in Schumer’s legislation.

In an in-depth NewsNation interview, Grusch also alleged that non-human remains have been recovered from UFOs. Schumer’s legislation requires that any “biological evidence of non-human intelligence” held by private companies be turned over to the federal government “in the interests of the public good.”

On June 22, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), along with Rubio and two other Republican senators, introduced legislation that would immediately halt funding for precisely the types of illegal, unreported programs described by Grusch.


The bill also instructs individuals with knowledge of such UFO-related activities to disclose all relevant information. It grants legal immunity if the information is reported appropriately within a defined timeframe.

Meanwhile, Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.) and Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.), who spearheaded the 26 July congressional hearing featuring Grusch and two former naval aviators, are leading a bipartisan effort to establish a select committee to investigate Grusch’s allegations.

As Rubio stated, if Grusch is correct, “there’s a group of people who believe that they possess something that they don’t need to share with anybody, including elected officials, who they view as temporary employees of the government.”

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Rubio likened such a dynamic to “an internal military complex that’s their own government and is accountable to no one” which, ultimately, “would be a huge problem, if it’s even partially true.”

Although such revelations would shake public trust in government to its core, that trust might be rebuilt upon the paradigm-shifting knowledge that humanity is not alone in the cosmos.

Marik von Rennenkampff served as an analyst with the U.S. Department of State’s Bureau of International Security and non-proliferation, as well as an Obama administration appointee at the U.S. Department of Defense.
 
What are they scared of? Other countries being ahead in reverse engineering?

The same reason there's nearly 5000 JFK files still classified. You gotta admit you've been bald face lying to the public on matters if the utmost importance for decades.
 
Going into this I was curious to see if there would be signs this was a psyop. I really don't think it is. The mainstream media by and large is keeping it at arm's length. If it was a psyop I think it would be the leading headline everywhere. We've seen how good they are at this shit when they want to be. WMDs in Iraq, building a sustainable government and military in Afghanistan for 20 years, the lab leak is a xenophobic conspiracy, Ukraine went from the most corrupt country in Europe to the lynchpin of western civilization overnight, etc, etc.
 
I rather see the fbi put their resources into figuring out who went to epsteins Island and why.
I'd also like to see them fully explore hunters laptop and the attempt to censor that information.
And who organized the antifa riots.
And really do a deep dive into the 2020 election.

All this alien bullshit is just noise to distract from blatant tyranny.
 
I rather see the fbi put their resources into figuring out who went to epsteins Island and why.
I'd also like to see them fully explore hunters laptop and the attempt to censor that information.
And who organized the antifa riots.
And really do a deep dive into the 2020 election.

All this alien bullshit is just noise to distract from blatant tyranny.
They only have 2 agents working on it anyway. I saw a documentary on it years ago so I know it is the truth.

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UFO whistleblower tells Congress the US government is hiding evidence of 'non-human intelligence'

Of course the Pentagon denies it, but this is what was said at subcommittee today on UFOs
Is this the whistleblower who never actually saw any of the things he is testifying about? The whistleblower who's entire testimony is based on things that other people told him? Is there more to it than that? Serious question because I have been avoiding watching any of that shit. I haven't actually seen any of his testimony, intentionally. I just don't believe anything the .gov says or allows to be said in public.

Is there more to the guy than what I mentioned above? Again, I'm just asking. Not trying to be a dick.
 
I rather see the fbi put their resources into figuring out who went to epsteins Island and why.
I'd also like to see them fully explore hunters laptop and the attempt to censor that information.
And who organized the antifa riots.
And really do a deep dive into the 2020 election.

All this alien bullshit is just noise to distract from blatant tyranny.

They already know all that.

If it's a distraction it's the worst distraction of all-time with the mainstream media doing their best to barely acknowledge it.
 
Going into this I was curious to see if there would be signs this was a psyop. I really don't think it is. The mainstream media by and large is keeping it at arm's length. If it was a psyop I think it would be the leading headline everywhere. We've seen how good they are at this shit when they want to be. WMDs in Iraq, building a sustainable government and military in Afghanistan for 20 years, the lab leak is a xenophobic conspiracy, Ukraine went from the most corrupt country in Europe to the lynchpin of western civilization overnight, etc, etc.

Yeah, I'm starting to agree with you on both this and the distraction piece.
 
I listened to the podcast. He definitely hints that there may have been contact made with sentient beings alive and dead. They definitely got into the weeds over Ai for the last 45 mins.

I enjoyed it at 1.25x speed :lmao:. Now we just need the house to pass the Schumer amendment to force the .gov make a plan and disclose what the know by 2030:smokin:
 
I listened to the podcast. He definitely hints that there may have been contact made with sentient beings alive and dead. They definitely got into the weeds over Ai for the last 45 mins.

I enjoyed it at 1.25x speed :lmao:. Now we just need the house to pass the Schumer amendment to force the .gov make a plan and disclose what the know by 2030:smokin:

How many times now have all the JFK files supposed to have been released? DC makes it very obvious that when you make the rules you don't have to follow the rules.
 
I listened to the podcast. He definitely hints that there may have been contact made with sentient beings alive and dead. They definitely got into the weeds over Ai for the last 45 mins.

I was planning on listening tomorrow. Is the AI conversation worth listening to or should I just skip over that part?
 
I was planning on listening tomorrow. Is the AI conversation worth listening to or should I just skip over that part?
Dude doesn’t divulge any names places etc. says he’s not cleared to disclose a lot of the things Rogan asked. Dude says we are not alone in the universe.

The AI detour was still about alien stuff. They’re pontificating about what an alien is, could be, people’s capacity to accept new information etc.
 
I was planning on listening tomorrow. Is the AI conversation worth listening to or should I just skip over that part?
I’m a little over halfway through, haven’t gotten to the AI part

It has been very interesting so far. Sounds somewhat like how Lazar got on the record originally just in case

As a government official (yeah, I know), he acknowledges crashes, recoveries, international cooperation, back engineering, and the existence of unidentifiable things dating back over 100 years. Interesting AF IMO.
 
Gotta wait till tomorrow.

I'm not really a full believer, but there's some very weird, very believable shit come to light lately from military folks etc.

I dunno man.
 
Gotta wait till tomorrow.

I'm not really a full believer, but there's some very weird, very believable shit come to light lately from military folks etc.

I dunno man.

I'm not a "believer" per se but folks like Chris Mellon, Lou Elizondo, Commander Dave Fravor, etc. coming forward completely changed my opinion. I used to think UFO stuff was just crackpot bullshit. And honestly, most of it probably is. Most of the rest is probably honest people misidentifying known objects, military black projects, etc. But then you're left with a tiny sliver of other stuff and that's interesting. Fravor probably did more to change my mind than anyone else. When a Navy Top Gun pilot describes an object moving like nothing else he's ever seen that simply doesn't make sense to him in terms of his understanding of the physics of flight as we know if that gets your attention.
 
Just finished up listening. I don't know what to think to be honest. I mean, the guy is who he says he is. That much has been confirmed. But honestly I thought the Ross Coulthart interview was a lot more compelling IMO. He was a lot more buttoned up and "official" in that one. More what I would expect out of someone like this. The cussing and almost surfer bro style of communication in this one just seemed to make it a lot less believable, again IMO. Sure, JRE is a much different and much more casual style of environment but I would've liked to have seen him carry himself with the weight of the subject matter and positions that he has held regardless of the format and environment.

Overall, I think it was a compelling and worthwhile listen but I gotta admit that I'm a bit disappointed in how someone new to the subject material is likely to interpret it. I know how I would if it was my first toe dip into the water.
 
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