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bunk said:
Fascinating, the responses from people. The sr71, stealth fighter and bomber educated me about the govt keeping a secret. But tech from another planet is a different thing. I wont be surprised one bit when they finally own up to having other worldly hardware, but its gonna take something special for that to happen. Like a 'alien attack' whatever that entails.
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Many of our high-tech developments came from recovered crafts. There are a few books out there about the subject, probably lots of web pages too.
 
Sandy Johnson said:
you say this like it's matter-of-fact, every day common knowledge. I'm gonna need some links. Point me to the rabbit hole!
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The Day After Roswell - written by United States Army Colonel Philip J. Corso

Synopsis

The majority of the book is an account of Colonel Corso's claims that he was assigned to a secret government program that provided some material recovered from crashed spacecraft to private industry (without saying where the items came from) to reverse engineer them for corporate use. Corso was a Special Assistant to Lt General Arthur Trudeau, who headed Army Research and Development, and was in charge of the Foreign Technology Desk. In this position, he would take technological artifacts obtained from Russian, German and other foreign sources, and have American companies reverse engineer that technology. The book contends that several aspects of modern technology such as fiber optics and integrated circuits were developed by using information taken from the craft.

Colonel Corso also claimed the world was "at war" with extraterrestrials and that the Strategic Defense Initiative project was part of that campaign that was successfully concluded in Earth's favour.
 
Stuck said:
Man for a bunch of tin foilers you are all pretty gullible. Do you really think if the whistleblower was legit he ever would have made it on TV? Fuck no, dude would have been made dead. This is all planned staged bullshit to once again distrct the American people and you fools are buying into it 100%. Dumbasses, dumbasses everywhere.
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And why is Bob Lazar still alive?
 
Roc Doc said:
And why is Bob Lazar still alive?
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I'm still torn on whether or not Lazar is legit. I've flip-flopped over the years from hell no, to probably yes, to currently pretty much 50/50. If he's legit, he's probably alive because he went public. This new whistle blower has pretty much straight up said that people have been killed to protect these secrets.
 
Printed circuit boards and Kevlar being the mains one I know of that resulted after Roswell. Lazar is alive cause they scared the life out of him and made him look like a crackpot.
 
Eric642 said:
Colonel Corso also claimed the world was "at war" with extraterrestrials and that the Strategic Defense Initiative project was part of that campaign that was successfully concluded in Earth's favour.
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I was right there until this part. We should have lost by now if that were the case. Imagine a WWII equipped army trying to go to war against our modern weapons.
 
I’d like to know who Lazar took to the once legal area by groom lake to watch the crafts doing maneuvers. That was the reason he was let go .
 
Sandy Johnson said:
I was right there until this part. We should have lost by now if that were the case. Imagine a WWII equipped army trying to go to war against our modern weapons.
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We don't really have to imagine. Just look at how much Russia is struggling in Ukraine facing a force that is basically outfitted with our surplus gear because their conventional forces are basically stuck in the Soviet era.
 
Sandy Johnson said:
I was right there until this part. We should have lost by now if that were the case. Imagine a WWII equipped army trying to go to war against our modern weapons.
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They are coming here for a reason. Either watching us for game or getting supplies. Ever think they might be incredibly fragile and don’t want to fight? There’s a yt vid ( yeah I know I know) where a Area 51 worker said they are incredibly fragile, like 5+ years for broken bones to heal. Gotta take that info with caution but it does show we have to forget what we know, cause they know stuff we don’t.
 
I don't believe any of this shit guys.

Like I said earlier in this thread...until I see it myself, in person or a high res video/pic, I can't believe it.

None of the recent YouTube vids show shit either.

This is a distraction :flipoff2:
 
east_beast said:
I'm still torn on whether or not Lazar is legit. I've flip-flopped over the years from hell no, to probably yes, to currently pretty much 50/50. If he's legit, he's probably alive because he went public. This new whistle blower has pretty much straight up said that people have been killed to protect these secrets.
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Maybe I'm being fooled, but seeing multiple interviews with him, I think he's legit. And he totally regrets his actions, not because they were wrong, but the hell he went through because of it.
 
bunk said:
Printed circuit boards and Kevlar being the mains one I know of that resulted after Roswell. Lazar is alive cause they scared the life out of him and made him look like a crackpot.
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Stronger Than Steel: How Chemist Stephanie Kwolek Invented Kevlar​

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Stephanie Kwolek nearly became a fashion designer but chose chemistry because she was "too much of a... [+]
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Stephanie Kwolek, the chemist who invented Kevlar, was born on this day in 1923.
Kwolek, whose invention has saved thousands of lives, was the daughter of two Polish immigrants. From her father, an amateur naturalist, she learned her love of science on their long walks through the woods together, identifying plants and wildlife. He died when Kwolek was just ten years old. From her mother, a seamstress, Kwolek learned her love of textiles and fiber arts. At a young age, Kwolek considered a career in fashion, but her mother warned that she was too much of a perfectionist to be a designer. Instead, Kwolek chose chemistry, a field for perfectionists if there ever was one.

It seems perfectly logical that she that would end up as a textile chemist, but that wasn't Kwolek's original plan. After receiving her bachelor's degree in chemistry in 1946, Kwopek was looking for a temporary job to help her raise the money for medical school. But in the lab, Kwopek became fascinated by polymer chemistry and decided to stay.
Nine years later, in 1965, Kwolek was trying to develop light, strong, rigid fibers to replace the steel wires used in car tires at the time. DuPont could see a gasoline shortage looming (it finally hit with a vengeance in 1973) and engineers thought a lighter, stronger material in tires could help improve cars' gas mileage. Kwolek's work day at the lab consisted mostly of dissolving long chains of molecules called polyamides -- the same type of synthetic polymer used to make materials like nylon -- and then running the solution through a machine that would spin it into fiber. At the time, the molecules DuPont was working with had to be melted at nearly 400 degrees Fahrenheit to be spun, and the heating made the fiber too weak and floppy for the job DuPont's engineers had in mind. Kwolek's job was to find a version that could be spun at lower temperatures.
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Even Kwolek was surprised when a batch of dissolved polyamides produced a milky, runny liquid solution instead of the clear, syrup-thick solution she expected. But instead of throwing it out as a bad batch or rejecting that molecule as a nonstarter, the chemist whose mother had once told her she was too much a perfectionist decided to give the weird, cloudy solution a try. The result was the strongest, stiffest fiber anyone had seen so far. Today, most of us know it as Kevlar.
Kevlar works because, under the right conditions, the molecules arrange themselves end-to-end, parallel to the length of the fiber, and form strong hydrogen bonds between the molecule chains. The resulting material is five times stronger than an equal weight of steel but lighter than fiberglass, and it could withstand high temperatures. Kwolek had developed exactly the material her bosses at DuPont were looking for, but it turned out that she'd done even more than that. Bulletproof vests and body armor made from Kevlar and related materials have saved the lives of thousands of armed service members, law enforcement officers, and others over the last few decades. The material is also used in the boots that firefighters wear with their bunker gear, in spacecraft components, in the gloves that protect cooks' fingers from kitchen knives, and in skis, tennis rackets, and ropes.
After her discovery, Kwolek spent the next 20 years at DuPont, which put her in charge of polymer research at its Pioneering Lab. She retired in 1986 but continued to consult for her old employer, while also serving on committees for the National Academy of Sciences and the National Research Council. Kwolek died at the age of 90 on June 8, 2014.
 
Now down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out who is telling the truth...I gave up lol
BUT Phil Schneider did commit suicide by tieing his catheter tube around his neck (while missing three fingers on one of his hands that would have made it almost impossible to tie the knot himself).

 
Roc Doc said:
Maybe I'm being fooled, but seeing multiple interviews with him, I think he's legit. And he totally regrets his actions, not because they were wrong, but the hell he went through because of it.
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I'm just not well equipped to determine his credibility. The stuff he talks about is so far out of my wheelhouse that I have to be cognizant of the reality that a decent bullshitter with a decent knowledge base in those areas could probably pretty easily bullshit me on it.
 
east_beast said:
I'm just not well equipped to determine his credibility. The stuff he talks about is so far out of my wheelhouse that I have to be cognizant of the reality that a decent bullshitter with a decent knowledge base in those areas could probably pretty easily bullshit me on it.
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Yeah, he's the guy with the 10lb brain, but there are others out there with that kind of knowledge, and I don't know of anyone, other than the .gov, that is refuting his testimony.
 
One thing that I have noticed and have found to be pretty peculiar is that this Vegas UFO/8 foot tall non-human story seems to be completely overshadowing the far more important and far more meaningful whistle blower story. It's almost like they're trying to use that story to ignore the whistle blower while still talking about the UFO subject so that they can't be accused of ignoring the entire subject. It's just weird to me that if you're going to address the subject that you don't focus on by far the biggest news on the subject since the 2017 NYT story and the 2020 leaked videos.
 
Roc Doc said:
Yeah, he's the guy with the 10lb brain, but there are others out there with that kind of knowledge, and I don't know of anyone, other than the .gov, that is refuting his testimony.
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Ross Coulthart who was the main guy behind breaking this latest whistle blower story has always been a Lazar doubter. The late Stanton Friedman was another. And Friedman was a physicist by training so he's far more equipped to determine the potential veracity of Lazar's claims than I am.

Like I said, I'm on the fence about Lazar which is a lot better than my previous stance of severely doubting him. It was the gimbal video that made me reevaluate my serious doubt of Lazar, the way that thing rotated just like he said they did.

 
animator said:
People act like they’ve never seen a meteor before.

We’re expected to believe that those people saw an 8’ tall alien or two in their back yard, called 911, yet not one of those folks recorded it on their phone?

Sure.
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People still think SpaceX rockets are UFO's, even after the huge media coverage of the Trident D5 missile test in California years ago and the multiple evening SpaceX launches. You think people would know, yet calls still come in about crazy blue streaks in the night sky because those things are so high up the rocket and all its exhaust is being lit up by the sun.
 
Eric642 said:
The Day After Roswell - written by United States Army Colonel Philip J. Corso

Synopsis

The majority of the book is an account of Colonel Corso's claims that he was assigned to a secret government program that provided some material recovered from crashed spacecraft to private industry (without saying where the items came from) to reverse engineer them for corporate use. Corso was a Special Assistant to Lt General Arthur Trudeau, who headed Army Research and Development, and was in charge of the Foreign Technology Desk. In this position, he would take technological artifacts obtained from Russian, German and other foreign sources, and have American companies reverse engineer that technology. The book contends that several aspects of modern technology such as fiber optics and integrated circuits were developed by using information taken from the craft.

Colonel Corso also claimed the world was "at war" with extraterrestrials and that the Strategic Defense Initiative project was part of that campaign that was successfully concluded in Earth's favour.
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iirc Corson claims he was the one in charge of some of the debris and was directed to share some of it with big corporations for them to reverse engineer and develop.


Sandy Johnson said:
I was right there until this part. We should have lost by now if that were the case. Imagine a WWII equipped army trying to go to war against our modern weapons.
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What's that old saying.... Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
 
I do have a very hard time believing that we're in some type of covert war against an alien species. It just seems to me that if they have the technology to get here then they could likely smoke us with ease if they so choose.
 
Tech Tim said:
iirc Corson claims he was the one in charge of some of the debris and was directed to share some of it with big corporations for them to reverse engineer and develop.




What's that old saying.... Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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Fair point.

Was Corson the guy who tried to immediately tell everyone the materials they recovered were extraterrestrial in nature and then had the rug pulled out from under him when he claims someone switched the materials for actual weather balloon stuff?
 
Tech Tim said:
iirc Corson claims he was the one in charge of some of the debris and was directed to share some of it with big corporations for them to reverse engineer and develop.




What's that old saying.... Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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One company was ibm. They figured out something pcb related. Maybee it was micro pcb’s?
 
Sandy Johnson said:
Fair point.

Was Corson the guy who tried to immediately tell everyone the materials they recovered were extraterrestrial in nature and then had the rug pulled out from under him when he claims someone switched the materials for actual weather balloon stuff?
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That was a different guy.

Corson didn't say anything during his career, then supposedly wrote the book and published it before he died.

bunk said:
One company was ibm. They figured out something pcb related. Maybee it was micro pcb’s?
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There was another company that was making a chip or PCB or something similar to the one IBM (iirc) had patented. IBM promptly brought a law suit. The other company challenged that the patent was no good as IBM didn't invent the tech, that they just reverse engineered it from UFO technology the military gave them. The lawsuit just kind of fizzled away and the other company is still selling their product.
 
Chips and PCBs are not even in the same ballpark of complexity. I've made PCBs in a plastic tub on the bench at work.

They were a useful invention, but perfectly within the technical abilities of the early 1900s.

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FIRST STEPS​

The first PCB concept was invented at the beginning of the 20th century by German inventor Albert Hanson, who filed a patent for a flat conductor for a multi-layer insulating board, but the technology world was not ready to welcome this new electrical component. The stock market crash in 1929 and the Great Depression caused another delay and as a result the PCB was not manufactured and used regularly until 1943 when the US army used it to make proximity fuses during World War II. At the same time Paul Eisler, an Austrian Inventor located in England, took the PCB idea to another level – a copper foil placed on a non-conductive glass base, more similar to the PCB of current days.

SPREAD THE WORD OF PCB​

In 1948, after the war, the useful invention was released by USA for commercial use. However, it was only during the 50s the US army developed an auto-assembly process, which led to mass production and brought the PCB to a wider use among electronics consumers. Progress was made in the midst of the cold war as tension ramped up between the opponents – USA and Soviet Union as they both struggled to improve their communications capabilities. A decade later a patent was filed by Hazeltine Corporation for the first plated through-hole technology, which allowed the PCB components to be placed together without crossover connections in a much more reliable way. At the same time surface mount technology was developed by IBM.
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Toy4rnr said:
People still think SpaceX rockets are UFO's, even after the huge media coverage of the Trident D5 missile test in California years ago and the multiple evening SpaceX launches. You think people would know, yet calls still come in about crazy blue streaks in the night sky because those things are so high up the rocket and all its exhaust is being lit up by the sun.
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One night just right past dusk, with basically enough light to still somewhat see, but dark enough to see brighter stars in the sky in the city, facing a generally southern direction,I looked up and saw what I believe to be the remnants of a SpaceX launch boosters from earlier that day. They were a pair of brightly lit objects that gradually faded out over a few seconds and disappeared from my view. Had I not known that there'd been a launch that day, I'd have been absolutely convinced I saw a pair of UFOs flying around and ultimately disappearing into the night sky.
 
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