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'05+ Ford Super Duty Dana 60 Axle Tech & Info

Sean said:
Any very rough idea how much it would move it toward the center?
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I need to go to my axle storage spot to measure. I'll try to do it sometime next month. Sorry I can't be any faster.
 
So based on my measurements, it’s like 3-4” is how far it would inset if you flipped sides. This is my plan as I am going to be using a d300. Actually excited for this as it would allow me to move my links in more and package 50* steering easier
 
Bebop said:
I need to go to my axle storage spot to measure. I'll try to do it sometime next month. Sorry I can't be any faster.
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No worries. And don't do it just for me..... It's a good data point to have in the thread but after some of these issues I'm pretty much abandoning the idea for this particular project.
 
Arickvan said:
this is 37.5 wide center on axle

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this shows center of diff to driver side 37.5 mark, i forgot to hold up the tape measure :homer:
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center of diff to edge of axle tube, no spring marks
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if you can or are willing to do some cast welding it would be possible
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Sean said:
No worries. And don't do it just for me..... It's a good data point to have in the thread but after some of these issues I'm pretty much abandoning the idea for this particular project.
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This is from page 4, not sure of how rough of a measurement is ok for you

I sold the axle so this is the best you're getting from me :flipoff2:
 
I recall somewhere in the 30 pages that the 2wd beams have the same inner C as a 4wd, but is the knuckle the same if you bolt up a 4wd unit bearing? I assume so if the C is the same.
 
Yes just swap out the 2wd unit bearing. The monobeam Cs and knuckles are the same as 4wd 450/550 axles
 
TTRAxle&FAB said:
Yes just swap out the 2wd unit bearing. The monobeam Cs and knuckles are the same as 4wd 450/550 axles
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450/550? Aren’t the brakes different on those axles? So will I need to run 2wd or 450/550 brakes if I use 2wd knuckles? I guess I could start cross referencing part #s…

I already have some brake parts collected, but I’m looking at picking up a bare housing with no knuckles.

Now that I think about it my brake parts are rotors pads and a caliper from a 2021, I think I read the brakes changed on the later stuff so I’ll need to check that against the knuckles I eventually pick up.
 
Literally the same all the way out. Including unit bearings, they're splined.

All the linkages, steering box, every thing but the pig and axle shafts.

2013 up changed brake size.
 
fl0w3n said:
450/550? Aren’t the brakes different on those axles? So will I need to run 2wd or 450/550 brakes if I use 2wd knuckles? I guess I could start cross referencing part #s…

I already have some brake parts collected, but I’m looking at picking up a bare housing with no knuckles.

Now that I think about it my brake parts are rotors pads and a caliper from a 2021, I think I read the brakes changed on the later stuff so I’ll need to check that against the knuckles I eventually pick up.
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4wd to 2wd brakes are the same. Do you plan on running the 10 lug unit bearings? 250/350 unit bearings bolt in for 8 lug options.
I have a lightweight kit for $600 if interested that will clear a 17in wheel.
 
Grendel said:
Literally the same all the way out. Including unit bearings, they're splined.

All the linkages, steering box, every thing but the pig and axle shafts.

2013 up changed brake size.
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Awesome

I think if I want to use my 2021 caliper and rotors then I need a 2013+ knuckle, right?

Or did just the caliper bracket change and the calipers are the same between all years?
 
TTRAxle&FAB said:
4wd to 2wd brakes are the same. Do you plan on running the 10 lug unit bearings? 250/350 unit bearings bolt in for 8 lug options.
I have a lightweight kit for $600 if interested that will clear a 17in wheel.
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I’m going 250/350 8 lug

Thanks, just slowly collecting parts for now. You're somewhere Midwest right and can do the tube press and drop changes? I assume shipping wouldn’t be worth it, know anyone on the west coast that does it?
 
fl0w3n said:
I’m going 250/350 8 lug

Thanks, just slowly collecting parts for now. You're somewhere Midwest right and can do the tube press and drop changes? I assume shipping wouldn’t be worth it, know anyone on the west coast that does it?
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30 minutes west of St.louis. I can ship commercial to Cali for $300 to a dock
 
fl0w3n said:
Awesome

I think if I want to use my 2021 caliper and rotors then I need a 2013+ knuckle, right?

Or did just the caliper bracket change and the calipers are the same between all years?
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Caliper bolt spacing changed. If you look earlier in the thread, someone made an adapter to put earlier calipers on later knuckles, not sure of the actual details, but it can be done.
 
TTRAxle&FAB said:
4wd to 2wd brakes are the same. Do you plan on running the 10 lug unit bearings? 250/350 unit bearings bolt in for 8 lug options.
I have a lightweight kit for $600 if interested that will clear a 17in wheel.
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What does your lightweight brake kit consist of? I’ve been looking for something lighter and smaller than stock but using parts store parts not aftermarket calipers and fancy aluminum top hat/2 piece rotors. I’ve seen brackets that use the old gm (1/2 ton?) calipers and the stock rotors I think. I have some other ideas but???
 
DesertCJ said:
What does your lightweight brake kit consist of? I’ve been looking for something lighter and smaller than stock but using parts store parts not aftermarket calipers and fancy aluminum top hat/2 piece rotors. I’ve seen brackets that use the old gm (1/2 ton?) calipers and the stock rotors I think. I have some other ideas but???
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See post #2

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TTR Axle and Fab

Custom steering axles 14 bolts,80s, D60s,And 9/10in bare housings prices All 14 bolts are 3.5in ribbed housings. Retubed 14 bolts just tubes $800 setup for all dana 60 front shafts kingpin to 05+ or rear steer with 3.5x.5w tubes Retubed with Super Duty Cs,knuckles $1250 up to 74in WMS seals...
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Dan said:
See post #2

irate4x4.com

TTR Axle and Fab

Custom steering axles 14 bolts,80s, D60s,And 9/10in bare housings prices All 14 bolts are 3.5in ribbed housings. Retubed 14 bolts just tubes $800 setup for all dana 60 front shafts kingpin to 05+ or rear steer with 3.5x.5w tubes Retubed with Super Duty Cs,knuckles $1250 up to 74in WMS seals...
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Noted, thanks.
 
Just an FYI you can cut the casting, then cut the tubes and just flip them making it a passenger side drop. The shafts fit back in, it all measures out.
 
665.0coupe said:
One of the you tube guys did this and did a video about it.
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And, if you're refering to Nate / Dirt Lifestyle, I believe he scrapped the whole thing because the pinion location still sucks.
 
Bebop said:
And, if you're refering to Nate / Dirt Lifestyle, I believe he scrapped the whole thing because the pinion location still sucks.
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Yeah, last I saw he had it going under that Land Rover. I assumed it was still there
 
Bebop said:
And, if you're refering to Nate / Dirt Lifestyle, I believe he scrapped the whole thing because the pinion location still sucks.
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Has to be better then a 14 bolt built to chevy 60 specs :barf:
 
Bebop said:
And, if you're refering to Nate / Dirt Lifestyle, I believe he scrapped the whole thing because the pinion location still sucks.
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He went with a custom axle but still a 60.
 
Bebop said:
I'm confused. Did you watch the video ? He ended up with a custom housing 05+ SD60 axle.
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I skipped through, he kinda annoys me sometimes.

The part where he has “2004 SD60 Inner C’s” labeled on his “Pass Side Fusion 4x4 60” drawing is why I asked. I didn’t watch all the way through to see what the final axle actually looked like.
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fl0w3n said:
So he did go with 04?

This is confusing.
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As I understand it, the first axle he changed to PS drop was an 04 he had laying in his shop. When he went to the custom Fusion 4x4 housing he had them use 04 inner C's so he could keep the knuckles and brakes he already had.
 
665.0coupe said:
As I understand it, the first axle he changed to PS drop was an 04 he had laying in his shop. When he went to the custom Fusion 4x4 housing he had them use 04 inner C's so he could keep the knuckles and brakes he already had.
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Okay so back to my original question, why go 04 if you’re going full custom.

I know Ian Johnson has said he prefers 99-04 but I think that was just a price reason, but I don’t fully remember if there’s some other advantage he talked about.

If Nate did it for knuckles and brakes he already had then what a confusing little lecture at the end where he basically toots his own horn and says he’s just going to buy all new stuff
 
fl0w3n said:
Okay so back to my original question, why go 04 if you’re going full custom.

I know Ian Johnson has said he prefers 99-04 but I think that was just a price reason, but I don’t fully remember if there’s some other advantage he talked about.

If Nate did it for knuckles and brakes he already had then what a confusing little lecture at the end where he basically toots his own horn and says he’s just going to buy all new stuff
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The only reasons to run a 99-04 axle.
1. To run yukon lockouts (someone pointed out chromoly gears for 05+ lockouts Rcv makes but I have yet to hear about real world feedback)
2. To go to 5 or 6 lug outers can’t do that with 05+ stuff
3. You got it cheap and you can machine unit bearings yourself. Buy the time you buy unit bearings to run 35 spline shafts it’s more than an 05+ axle.

I’m running one because of reason 1,3

I know Ian Johnson likes them because they’re cheap and easier to clean up. Plus I bet his unit bearings are all sponsored so reason #3 doesn’t exist for him.
 
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