Tow Rig / DD / Plow Rig Tires

YotaAtieToo said:
So if you put one tractor all the way forward, that's 4500 split roughly 50/50 between the trailer and your hitch, pull the rear tractor on and it's going to leverage weight off. So like 1000 + 2250 - 500?

I get that it's tounge heavy for what you're doing though.
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If I was in or near my pickup I have scale reciepts that I am baseing my guestimate off of. What you cant see in that picture is how far back the axles are on my trailer.

If I remember correctly a single tractor with non Filled tires loaded all the way back on my trailer is 1700lbs of incrrased weight on my drive axle
 
I was mostly giving you ****, I don't think you realize how much 5k lbs of tounge wieght is though. I don't even have that on my F550 pulling 28klbs and it will sag the rear a decent amount with 3k lbs on the hitch.

5k on the ball would be 10k or maybe more on the drives.

I had about 6k pin wieght once on my gooseneck in my dually and it was 12k on the drives and sagging the 1 ton drw suspension quite a bit, and that wasn't hanging off the back.
 
YotaAtieToo said:
I was mostly giving you ****, I don't think you realize how much 5k lbs of tounge wieght is though. I don't even have that on my F550 pulling 28klbs and it will sag the rear a decent amount with 3k lbs on the hitch.

5k on the ball would be 10k or maybe more on the drives.

I had about 6k pin wieght once on my gooseneck in my dually and it was 12k on the drives and sagging the 1 ton drw suspension quite a bit, and that wasn't hanging off the back.
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FIL routinely pulls trailer stacks on his wonton that require 100+psi in the airbags to level out and has broke 10k trailer jacks trying to get unhooked from his truck:homer:

I've had to weld up his class v/vi receiver he bought new a couple years ago twice:laughing:
 
IowaOffRoad said:
FIL routinely pulls trailer stacks on his wonton that require 100+psi in the airbags to level out and has broke 10k trailer jacks trying to get unhooked from his truck:homer:

I've had to weld up his class v/vi receiver he bought new a couple years ago twice:laughing:
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You peasant farmers are doing it wrong. Don't worry, the Californian knows how to do it right. :flipoff2:
 
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YotaAtieToo said:
I was mostly giving you ****, I don't think you realize how much 5k lbs of tounge wieght is though. I don't even have that on my F550 pulling 28klbs and it will sag the rear a decent amount with 3k lbs on the hitch.

5k on the ball would be 10k or maybe more on the drives.

I had about 6k pin wieght once on my gooseneck in my dually and it was 12k on the drives and sagging the 1 ton drw suspension quite a bit, and that wasn't hanging off the back.
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And I may be way off. I had 100psi in my bags and it was sacked out and light on the fronts. It felt like considerably more then this bad decision coming home from texas.

I think I only have just over 3000lbs on the drives empty... truck weighs 6800 ish
 
2big bronco said:
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And I may be way off. I had 100psi in my bags and it was sacked out and light on the fronts. It felt like considerably more then this bad decision coming home from texas.

I think I only have just over 3000lbs on the drives empty... truck weighs 6800 ish
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You should try a gooseneck, makes these types of loads so much more bearable.

Edit: nevermind, then you'll just want to put 4 tractors on it :flipoff2:
 
I got a set of Cooper Discoverer Stronghold AT’s yesterday. 285/75r18. I went in wanting the BFG HD terrains but my tire guy talked me into these because somebody else had ordered them and backed out so they were ready to go. So far I like them.
 
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My friend sent me this yesterday, he does a lot of welding on equipment on construction and mine sites, the rock around here chews up tires and slices sidewalls, BFG ATs eye the only thing that survived on his srw truck, he's since switched to the BFG HD tires and says he's got 20k and half tread left. Happy enough he bought them for his DRW truck, in 255/80r17
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Did you happen to ask him how they ride? I wanted to like the ones I ordered but at $1700 for a set the damn things better not shake the steering at highway speed when brand new. Maybe I just got some of the first tires out of the mold and they still had some growing pains to get through.
 
Those look pretty awful for snow or anything else, really.
 
DMG said:
Those look pretty awful for snow or anything else, really.
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Best for heavy snow, can’t beat them plowing. The treads blocks dont load up and are great on side slopes like plowing into a ditch. Not the best tires for ice. Road manners are ok but they are LOUD, load E radial. They get around great in mud and sand as well.
 
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I mean pretty much every single axle medium duty from the 80's and early 90's had either that style tread or he directional version like power kings, firestone super traction etc. They work decent in mud and snow but never going to be an AT. If you could get them in more sizes it would be great, not much available anymore.
 
had some hercules hdtl that were pretty similar, little finer tread blocks but they did real well
huuuuge cracks all through them but they eventually got sold with a truck still holding air
 
Gonna be replacing the tires on my 11 ram 2500 diesel this year.

I will probably ponder a lot of dumb things like:

1. Best tire size for mileage?
2. Best tire to last and be good on a tow rig that is used to haul my enclosed 25' Jeep/sxs/camping trailer as well as my enclosed snowmobile trailer.
3. good tire that is a good value, ie cheap. lol
 
I keep seeing Venom Power swampthings advertised and they kinda look good. 55k treadlife warranty I think? Problem is most people that buy VP's are the bros with 14" wide rims so never seen them on a decent width wheel in a normal size instead of stretched 22" garbage. They make normal sizes just never seen them in real life.
 
SHARPMACHINE said:
Gonna be replacing the tires on my 11 ram 2500 diesel this year.

I will probably ponder a lot of dumb things like:

1. Best tire size for mileage?
2. Best tire to last and be good on a tow rig that is used to haul my enclosed 25' Jeep/sxs/camping trailer as well as my enclosed snowmobile trailer.
3. good tire that is a good value, ie cheap. lol
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i had pretty good luck with the GY Ultraterrains on my '15 Ram 2500. I think I had about 45k on them before I replaced. Quiet on the highway, pretty good braking and wet traction. They did ok in the dirt but I stayed out of the mud. The did pick up a lot of small rocks on gravel roads though. I ran them in a 275/70/18 flavor which is factory size for my truck.
 
Time is coming for new tires on the truck. Sitting on 37x12.50r17 Ridge Grapplers. Tires have been OK, but are cracking more than I like at just under 5 years old and will get about 30k on them if I’m lucky.

I’ve been wanting to go with Recon Grapplers in a 37x11.5r17 flavor to get better load capacity and higher tire pressure for highway trips. I’m hoping the narrower tire will help road manners a little and fit my narrow wheels better. I would consider a narrow 35” if it keeps the load rating up. I could also go with a Falken RT or Toyo RT Trail in 37x12.50 to get the capacity and tire pressure.

Truck is used for general truck ****ery, but the focus will be on taking my cabover places a cabover shouldn’t go which often involves lots of highway miles between some off-road miles.

Input? Am I overlooking a badass 35-37” narrow tire?
Yeah I know I’m probably overthinking it.


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I had good luck with the Toyo RT Trails in a 37/25.5/17 on my Ram 2500. I got 40K out of them. I hated the set of Ridge Grapplers that I had. They really liked to hydroplane during wet conditions.

Just recently went back to a set of Toyo MTs in a 37/13.5/17. Couldn't have my GFs Tacoma have more aggressive tires than me.
 
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Installed a set of these on an Excursion of mine. They are cheap and just needed something to get around with in the winter. Was pleasantly surprised with their performance, they are twin peak rated and studdable. They ended up being GREAT winter tires, hook fantastic, quiet and smooth. Balanced them with beads and run them at 60psi.


 
I went with the Falken R/Ts in the same size and they've been great for me the last 15k pulling trailers and just general mileage. Have been good in snow, mud and on the highway - no ragerts here.
 
I'll echo the dissatisfaction with the Recon Grapplers. They were terrible in wet and snowy/ icy conditions. I'm trying some 3-peak E rated 37x13.50 Gladiator AT's now. I have some vibes so they need to be rebalanced, but I'm happy with them in the 1st 1000 miles. Good in the snow and ice, and are quieter than the Graps. Time will tell if they're worth the budget price.
 
back woods said:
Installed a set of these on an Excursion of mine. They are cheap and just needed something to get around with in the winter. Was pleasantly surprised with their performance, they are twin peak rated and studdable. They ended up being GREAT winter tires, hook fantastic, quiet and smooth. Balanced them with beads and run them at 60psi.


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They wear out fast.
 
I'm probably going to get 8k out of them on a 02 ½ ton suburban 245 75 17 suv tire.
 
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