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Why is littering so common? Someone help me understand.

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TatonkaII said:
i cant stand littering. it drives me crazy.

so, i live in a curve of a busy road- you know, when you're in the curve no one can see you throw something out. it's bad enough so i put up cameras watching my dirt driveway. the are white, obvious, and not hidden at all.... right next to no trespassing signs. so, i just caught someone over the weekend dumping a box of garbage- cooked/rotted looking chicken quarters and who knows what else at 150pm in broad day light. he parked less than 10 feet from the cam, threw it out, and backed up to the road. i posted screenshots of his truck on good ole facebook community page and he was located in less than 2 hours. unfortunately, it was someone i know grandfather who is 83. anyway, they came and cleaned it up at 7am the next day and he called and apologized.

i've not uncommon for me to pickup two grocery bags of trash when i go to mow along the road. the thing i find the most are pint vodka bottles- like 5 or more so that's probably the same person.
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Fuck that old man. Stick his ass in a nursing home and put the trash can right next to his bed. "Unfortunately" my ass, someone should take a 3ft long piece of garden hose with the female end still on and go beat his old ass.
 
Late to this party. :flipoff2:

I also hate littering. It makes me so mad when a bear consistently gets into someone’s trash and they never go pick it up.

Last year a bear got my can and drug the one bag 500’ or so up into the woods. I tracked the trail with garbage, picked it all up, and cleaned it completely up. So many people just leave that to lay.

One bag I could not clean up was in my burn pile for 4 days. I had NO idea my wife tossed piles if old candy in it. I found 3 pieces and the rest is wherever.

But, the wife smokes, and any time we’re out she keeps a half full water bottle for butts. In fact, my oldest kid one vacation took a drink from it thinking it was water. :laughing:
 
FleshEater said:
Late to this party. :flipoff2:

I also hate littering. It makes me so mad when a bear consistently gets into someone’s trash and they never go pick it up.

Last year a bear got my can and drug the one bag 500’ or so up into the woods. I tracked the trail with garbage, picked it all up, and cleaned it completely up. So many people just leave that to lay.

One bag I could not clean up was in my burn pile for 4 days. I had NO idea my wife tossed piles if old candy in it. I found 3 pieces and the rest is wherever.

But, the wife smokes, and any time we’re out she keeps a half full water bottle for butts. In fact, my oldest kid one vacation took a drink from it thinking it was water. :laughing:
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As a kid, I ran inside about to die of thirst and took a giant chug of the glass coke bottle that was not coke, but dad's Skoal spit. I puked for 3 weeks.

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45acp said:
As a kid, I ran inside about to die of thirst and took a giant chug of the glass coke bottle that was not coke, but dad's Skoal spit. I puked for 3 weeks.
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In highschool my buddies and I were sitting around drinking. One dude accidentally put the can he had been spitting in up to his mouth and took a swig of his own dip spit. Thankfully there was plenty of fireball to chase it with. :laughing:
 
Locally
taking the garbage to the dump is just a money grab
price is so high it isn't worth wile
on top of that, they are trying to fine you for 'unsecured loads' (I have no idea how they would prove it, but I am sure spineless people will pay)
they can fuck off, if the load is there, it is secured and made it to its destination
try to recycle, and they will let you unload everything before coming out of their little shack to tell you that they will not take it
oils, they will only take a small amount
paint, same deal, god forbid you are trying to move out and get everything disposed of the right way

I just started dumping all the nasty crap in the city sewer (when I had it) and if I though that it was going to melt the pipe, I would chase it with full sinks, and flushed toilets, fuck em'

now I live out of town and all my oil gets burned in the shop,,,,you know, I recycle it that way

I know why the garbage is on the county roads, it is just easier
 
Thumping said:
They don't say anything about the fountains but how blacks back then were in many way better off. How the welfare system basically destroyed the black family and neighbor hoods.
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Oh yeah. Milton Friedman also has a good interview with a black couple where they talk about how the system wants to break up the family, offering mom more money if dad leaves the house so the state can replace the father.
 
Pretty sure this has been posted before:
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Chief Iron Eyes Cody was born here in Loosieana. Espera Oscar de Corti was his birth name, changed it to Tony Corti later on. When he went California & got into Hollywood, it was Americanized to Cody.

AND... I hate litterers. I do picking up on the job & off the clock.
Reminiscing my youth~ I even remember having to pick up cig butts off the ground at someone's graduation party & hearing this old Army story about the enemy/sabotage. The beaches by NYC was full of trash and the Jersey shore beaches were overloaded with cig butts.
Going fishing/hunting nowadays is trash everywhere- :mad3:
 
SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
Locally
taking the garbage to the dump is just a money grab
price is so high it isn't worth wile
on top of that, they are trying to fine you for 'unsecured loads' (I have no idea how they would prove it, but I am sure spineless people will pay)
they can fuck off, if the load is there, it is secured and made it to its destination
try to recycle, and they will let you unload everything before coming out of their little shack to tell you that they will not take it
oils, they will only take a small amount
paint, same deal, god forbid you are trying to move out and get everything disposed of the right way

I just started dumping all the nasty crap in the city sewer (when I had it) and if I though that it was going to melt the pipe, I would chase it with full sinks, and flushed toilets, fuck em'

now I live out of town and all my oil gets burned in the shop,,,,you know, I recycle it that way

I know why the garbage is on the county roads, it is just easier
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We have the same issues. You would think local and state governments would have figured it out by now...... :shaking:
 
Thumping said:
Oh I'm not arguing that. Odd now how it seems in many ways they are wanting to segregated.
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I feel it’s not about blacks only whatever, it’s more about no whites.

I get the idea that in the 50’s a white feller that couldn’t read wouldn’t get a beat down if he used the coloreds drinking fountain or bathroom. These days there would likely be a different outcome.

ETA trash transfer station had $30 punch cards, a year after build back better they jumped to $45.
 
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SomeGuyFromOlympia said:
on top of that, they are trying to fine you for 'unsecured loads' (I have no idea how they would prove it, but I am sure spineless people will pay)
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In King county if they can use their thumb and pointer finger to remove something from the load, thats a ticket.
 
People are lazy, inconsiderate fucks who don't care? Not a huge mystery... just make it someone else's problem.

The one that irritates me, even as a smoker, is fucking cigarette butts. I don't throw mine on the ground or flick them out the window, just looks shitty seeing a bunch of cigarette butts all over the ground outside a store or wherever.

People suck, what are you gonna do?
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
They only go in my pocket when I'm at work, everywhere else i carry a ziplock or dispose of them in trash bins. Smelling like butts is the least of my worries when I'm covered in gear oil, hydraulic fluid and grease for 9 or 10hrs a day. :lmao:
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Haha, yeah fair point.
 
Because littering...
Ultra running's most secretive and brutal race has gotten underway in Tennessee with a dramatic start that saw two runners disqualified in the opening moments.

The Barkley Marathons, famously dubbed "the race that eats its young," kicked off at 5:17 a.m. on Wednesday in Frozen Head State Park. The 100-mile race consists of 5 laps of a 20-mile circuit and is known for being extremely challenging and highly unusual.
The race, which was devised in 1986 by Gary "Lazarus Lake" Cantrell (who went on to formulate the backyard ultra) and Karl Henn, is largely shrouded in secrecy. Only 35 runners are permitted to enter and they are hand-picked after applying with an essay on why they should be allowed to run and paying a fee of $1.60. It's never publically announced when the race will begin or who is racing, and in the nearly 40 years of the race's history, only 17 runners have finished.

Though we're only about 24 hours into the race at the time of writing, it's certain that at least two runners won't qualify for a finish even if they complete five laps, as Keith Dunn, who provides the Barkley Marathons' only official news feed, announced on X that two had already been disqualified at the start of the race, which is marked by the lighting of a cigarette.

"Two runners threw trash on the ground at the start. We are trying to identify them so they can be disqualified."
Though the event is quirky, littering goes against what rules there are and runs contrary to all trail running etiquette. Frozen Head State Park prides itself on what it calls its "densely forested, unspoiled mountain splendor."
Many followers of Dunn's feed feel certain that anyone elite enough to make the Barkley Marathons must be aware of the principles of Leave No Trace and chalk this up to a mistake, urging others to withold judgement, however some came up with creative ideas to punish the pair.
"Make 'em run the whole race, then tell them," suggested one fan.
Though there's been no update on whether the runners have been identified yet, Dunn has already reported that only about 10 runners have any realistic chance of finishing.
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If you don't know what the Barkley Marathon is, it is this 60 hour running event where participants have to draw their own map, and have to complete 5 loops with only 12 hours to compete it. I think only 14 or 15 people have ever completed it since it started almost 40 years ago.
 
RunningProblem said:
Ultra running's most secretive and brutal race has gotten underway in Tennessee with a dramatic start that saw two runners disqualified in the opening moments.

The Barkley Marathons, famously dubbed "the race that eats its young," kicked off at 5:17 a.m. on Wednesday in Frozen Head State Park. The 100-mile race consists of 5 laps of a 20-mile circuit and is known for being extremely challenging and highly unusual.
The race, which was devised in 1986 by Gary "Lazarus Lake" Cantrell (who went on to formulate the backyard ultra) and Karl Henn, is largely shrouded in secrecy. Only 35 runners are permitted to enter and they are hand-picked after applying with an essay on why they should be allowed to run and paying a fee of $1.60. It's never publically announced when the race will begin or who is racing, and in the nearly 40 years of the race's history, only 17 runners have finished.

Though we're only about 24 hours into the race at the time of writing, it's certain that at least two runners won't qualify for a finish even if they complete five laps, as Keith Dunn, who provides the Barkley Marathons' only official news feed, announced on X that two had already been disqualified at the start of the race, which is marked by the lighting of a cigarette.

"Two runners threw trash on the ground at the start. We are trying to identify them so they can be disqualified."
Though the event is quirky, littering goes against what rules there are and runs contrary to all trail running etiquette. Frozen Head State Park prides itself on what it calls its "densely forested, unspoiled mountain splendor."
Many followers of Dunn's feed feel certain that anyone elite enough to make the Barkley Marathons must be aware of the principles of Leave No Trace and chalk this up to a mistake, urging others to withold judgement, however some came up with creative ideas to punish the pair.
"Make 'em run the whole race, then tell them," suggested one fan.
Though there's been no update on whether the runners have been identified yet, Dunn has already reported that only about 10 runners have any realistic chance of finishing.


If you don't know what the Barkley Marathon is, it is this 60 hour running event where participants have to draw their own map, and have to complete 5 loops with only 12 hours to compete it. I think only 14 or 15 people have ever completed it since it started almost 40 years ago.
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my guess is 17 :flipoff2: I forget what streaming channel had it. But theres a doc on it. kinda neat.
 
Here in Connecticut you have beautiful country roads with the curbs covered in garbage, normally cups, bottles, food wrappers. It says much about the people who engage in such behaviors.

I am a messy person, but this really bothers me. I've been thinking of spending a Saturday morning picking up trash in some of these.
 
75cruisin said:
my guess is 17 :flipoff2: I forget what streaming channel had it. But theres a doc on it. kinda neat.
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There are a few. I believe ‘the race that eats its young’ is the one responsible for bringing the MOST attention to it. Might be where Gary Robbin’s 5-10 second late arrival on the last lap makes him not a finisher even when he finished the whole course


YouTube has a lot. Trail runners TYPICALLY don’t tolerate littering because they’re volunteers, and as adults you’re kind of expected to be an adult and clean up after yourself. Shit happens and kudos to this race and ‘leave no trace’ principle.
 
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