Well pump wiring help

[Blt2rok]

I have a bi voltage well pump from tractor supply and burnt up the voltage selector switch. How do I wire it for 220 and bypass the switch.

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

Show a pic of the motor nameplate.

 

[Blt2rok]

Show a pic of the motor nameplate.

Doesn’t have one. Only the model number and hp

 

[Blt2rok]

This is how the wires were hooked up on the back of the switch. It’s melted so I can tell what went to what except white on terminal 3 shows continuity to the jumper on terminal 1-2

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

You should be able to gently bust apart the switch and see which wires are connected when 220 is selected by looking at the internal bars.

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

This might be what the switch does, not sure which wire is which, but you should be able to narrow that down with the ohm meter.

You can see that 1 and 4 are always connected to the incoming wires, so that switch would handle either shorting 2 to 3 or connecting to the incoming lines.

Give me a minute.

So, that would mean you should just have to connect blue to white, and leave black and red capped (marrettes).

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

That switch is just a standard two pole on/off/on switch.

One position would be blue and white connected to the white jumper (so blue and white are shorted together) this would be the 220 volt setting.

The other position would be blue connected to black and white connected to red. This would be the 110 volt setting.

 

[Blt2rok]

Thanks for the help!! That worked out.

 

[Blt2rok]

You should be able to gently bust apart the switch and see which wires are connected when 220 is selected by looking at the internal bars.

The switched melted itself so no help there.

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

Glad you replied.

50/50 chance you were dead.




Edit: Now that I'm thinking about it, that switch is about the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Especially with it being a cheap as **** switch.

You connect your pump to 220 volts, then a kid wanders in the shed and flips the switch. Bam--something's burnt.

How ****in' hard is it to use some marrettes and follow a nameplate?

 

[M92PV4U]

You connect your pump to 220 volts, then a kid wanders in the shed and flips the switch. Bam--something's burnt.

That switch is under a cover with like 6 screws holding it on.

 

[M92PV4U]

Something like this.

 

[Blt2rok]

Glad you replied.

50/50 chance you were dead.




Edit: Now that I'm thinking about it, that switch is about the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Especially with it being a cheap as **** switch.

You connect your pump to 220 volts, then a kid wanders in the shed and flips the switch. Bam--something's burnt.

How ****in' hard is it to use some marrettes and follow a nameplate?

That’s funny. I told my wife if I don’t come out of the pump house come check on me.
It is a chicken **** switch and the schematic is nowhere to be found. It would have been easy if it hadn’t have melted. It was smoking and glowing when I went to check on it the first time.

 

[Clb]

At least you didn't die.
I'm always amazed by the lengths corporations go to to save a nickel....

 

[Blt2rok]

At least you didn't die.
I'm always amazed by the lengths corporations go to to save a nickel....

Yeah I’m pretty happy I didn’t die. Looking at different pumps on Amazon it seems they all have the dual voltage switch.

 

[Clb]

I've no idea what your setup is , but there's gotta be a decent workaround for the chineezium crap.
Edited out the rest.
Good luck bud

 

[AKnate]

How deep does a pump like that suck water?

 

[Blt2rok]

How deep does a pump like that suck water?

i think my well is around 80 feet.

 

[AKnate]

i think my well is around 80 feet.

I've only seen that style for a booster pump or very shallow water source.

Like at work we have one that sucks off a ~1500 gallon tank

 

[Muckin_Slusher]

I've only seen that style for a booster pump or very shallow water source.

Like at work we have one that sucks off a ~1500 gallon tank

I don't know ****-all about pumps, but I have read about shallow-well jet pumps.

Seems you can only suck as hard as atmospheric pressure (14.7 psi) can push the water into the pipe you've "sucked empty" and since water is about 1 psi per 2 feet of head you max out sucking around 20 feet or 25 feet.

...but...

There's some witchcraft where you put a pipe down the well and push water into the well or something and you can increase that 20 feet to 80 feet. I've got to watch some more videos or something to better understand it, or maybe the well digger will explain in a sentence or two.

 

[Blt2rok]

I don't know ****-all about pumps, but I have read about shallow-well jet pumps.

Seems you can only suck as hard as atmospheric pressure (14.7 psi) can push the water into the pipe you've "sucked empty" and since water is about 1 psi per 2 feet of head you max out sucking around 20 feet or 25 feet.

...but...

There's some witchcraft where you put a pipe down the well and push water into the well or something and you can increase that 20 feet to 80 feet. I've got to watch some more videos or something to better understand it, or maybe the well digger will explain in a sentence or

I don't know ****-all about pumps, but I have read about shallow-well jet pumps.

Seems you can only suck as hard as atmospheric pressure (14.7 psi) can push the water into the pipe you've "sucked empty" and since water is about 1 psi per 2 feet of head you max out sucking around 20 feet or 25 feet.

...but...

There's some witchcraft where you put a pipe down the well and push water into the well or something and you can increase that 20 feet to 80 feet. I've got to watch some more videos or something to better understand it, or maybe the well digger will explain in a sentence or two.

For what its worth my well is much deeper but we hit water around 40-50 feet i think. So my well casing is 150' or more but the pump pickup is at 80'.

 

[Clb]

The switched melted itself so no help there.

Check the grounds are clean abd solid. .

 

[M92PV4U]

How deep does a pump like that suck water?

28' single pipe and jet on top, two pipe & jet down the well deeper.

 

[M92PV4U]

What is the op's location?

 

[M92PV4U]

I don't know ****-all about pumps, but I have read about shallow-well jet pumps.

Seems you can only suck as hard as atmospheric pressure (14.7 psi) can push the water into the pipe you've "sucked empty" and since water is about 1 psi per 2 feet of head you max out sucking around 20 feet or 25 feet.

...but...

There's some witchcraft where you put a pipe down the well and push water into the well or something and you can increase that 20 feet to 80 feet. I've got to watch some more videos or something to better understand it, or maybe the well digger will explain in a sentence or two.

We see premium pumps work to 28'

The 2 pipe system relocates the nozzle & venturi (the jet system) down the well.

The smaller side of the jet body is pressure returning from the pump and blasting through the nozzle through a passage coming from the foot valve and into the venturi creating a vaccum to suck the water up. You loose gpm in this configuration but boost the pressure.

 

[M92PV4U]

I checked our junk bin. I couldn't locate a motor like that, it's probably on the bottom.

 

[Blt2rok]

I checked our junk bin. I couldn't locate a motor like that, it's probably on the bottom.

i dont doubt at all.