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Grendel said:
My friends call it Grendel Auto Attention Deficit Disorder

Shit happens, you react to it. Path of least resistance and the desire to work on something changes things.

Eh, it's an evolutionary process. I know what it all looks like now.
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I have projects that resemble that, they are just usually on a significantly smaller scale :D

Aaron Z
 
Got the Duramax and Allison ready to go into this chassis... and also got the bed off. and started mocking up the 9' bed.

I really like it. Will be great with stacks.

Going back and forth on the load star nose.

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Oh and GADD hits again.... having a bitch of a time getting a 3rd VSS into the NP271 for the Allison to shift properly.

So 2wd Allison and divorced Ford NP205 it is. That's being dropped today.
 
Grendel said:
Oh and GADD hits again.... having a bitch of a time getting a 3rd VSS into the NP271 for the Allison to shift properly.

So 2wd Allison and divorced Ford NP205 it is. That's being dropped today.
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You have plenty of wheelbase to pull it off so you may as well do that and keep it easy. That thing is going to be a beast when its finished, and that is probably the first 9' bed truck I have ever seen that looks properly proportioned. :smokin:
 
I think they all look good with a 9' bed.

The first one, that got me thinking this one.

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I've looked into the divorced 271s a little, the topkicks apparently are passenger side drop, have beefed up housings to support mounting, and parts are discontinued

Torque king doesn't seem to address mounting

I would think that a laser cut piece of plate on the front as the main part of a cradle would work

I'd like to see what you come up with, as I'll be building a similar truck a few years out
 
Projectjunkie said:
I've looked into the divorced 271s a little, the topkicks apparently are passenger side drop, have beefed up housings to support mounting, and parts are discontinued

Torque king doesn't seem to address mounting

I would think that a laser cut piece of plate on the front as the main part of a cradle would work

I'd like to see what you come up with, as I'll be building a similar truck a few years out
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Yeah, I am going to grab all the bolts in the front, make an aluminum cap and also grab at least 10 of the half case bolts that through bolt. They will both be tied into the crossmember and skid plate.

I have a Dodge and a Ford 271 that I will hybrid.
 
While I am researching and dinking around, my buddy Jason is welding the WFO radius arms up.

Will put an F450 (wwwwiiiiiiiiidddddddeeee) front and rear axle in, but convert it to metric 8 lug with Ford hubs/brakes.

He also takes pictures with a potato.

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Projectjunkie said:
I've looked into the divorced 271s a little, the topkicks apparently are passenger side drop, have beefed up housings to support mounting, and parts are discontinued

Torque king doesn't seem to address mounting

I would think that a laser cut piece of plate on the front as the main part of a cradle would work

I'd like to see what you come up with, as I'll be building a similar truck a few years out
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The few C4500 4x4 NV273s I've looked at don't look like the cases are beefed up at all. Of course I've never taken one apart and measured the case thicknesses and compared them to one from a pickup. I've looked at the Quad4x4 divorce mount kit but it doesn't say anything about mounting it. Here's a GM parts diagram of their mounting brackets.
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shortbus4x4 said:
Here's a link. Says the front bracket is still available.
https://www.wholesalegmpartsonline....odel=20306&modelYear=2007&ukey_category=19405
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How about having bolt holes for the #34 bracket?

I think this was brought up on the old site and it was verified that the castings had some reinforcements

I hope Grendel finds a solution, as I'd really like to build a heavy f350 with a real engine and tranny

I imagine some laser cut pieces that grab a shit load of bolts and a wide plate acting like an engine plate on a drag car, or bell housing with mounts on a mdt would do the trick

the question then, does the divorce kit have a beefy enough front bearing to take any side loading out of the equation?

if it's similar to the mdt tranny, it's probably golden
 
Projectjunkie said:
the question then, does the divorce kit have a beefy enough front bearing to take any side loading out of the equation?

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They use the same bearing part part numbers. How does it get side loaded, when we're talking about fixed positions, with two u joints that have more movement range than the trans or t-case?

For the money, I will build my own front bracket ($174 seems steep). As I said, I plan to grab at least 7 of the top through bolts and 7 of the bottom ones, basically building a sandwich mount that will be the cross-member. The front plate will tie into the top and bottom mounts.

We'll do pucks on each side of both members of the H mount.

Considering that most OEM's hang the thing from the 6 bolts in the face of the t-case, I think that's more than plenty. Considering they use a tiny trans mount for all of it... and heck, look at how a divorced 205 mounts.

Doing FEA now.
 
Looks to be another interesting build.

What happened with the M715?
 
Grendel said:
They use the same bearing part part numbers. How does it get side loaded, when we're talking about fixed positions, with two u joints that have more movement range than the trans or t-case?

For the money, I will build my own front bracket ($174 seems steep). As I said, I plan to grab at least 7 of the top through bolts and 7 of the bottom ones, basically building a sandwich mount that will be the cross-member. The front plate will tie into the top and bottom mounts.

We'll do pucks on each side of both members of the H mount.

Considering that most OEM's hang the thing from the 6 bolts in the face of the t-case, I think that's more than plenty. Considering they use a tiny trans mount for all of it... and heck, look at how a divorced 205 mounts.

Doing FEA now.
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I'm not an engineer, side load probably isn't the correct term for whatever forces could be introduced on the input shaft when it's taken off of the back of a tranny and has a yoke installed. But if it's the same bearing as a production topkick, you're probably golden

As for mounting, I'm sure you'll figure something out, and I'll probably copy it, just addressing that there are in fact casting differences that NV addressed when offering that case as a divorced model
 
Grendel said:
How does it get side loaded, when we're talking about fixed positions, with two u joints that have more movement range than the trans or t-case?
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This is my thought. I really doubt there's any problem.
 
Projectjunkie said:
I'm not an engineer, side load probably isn't the correct term for whatever forces could be introduced on the input shaft when it's taken off of the back of a tranny and has a yoke installed. But if it's the same bearing as a production topkick, you're probably golden

As for mounting, I'm sure you'll figure something out, and I'll probably copy it, just addressing that there are in fact casting differences that NV addressed when offering that case as a divorced model
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I've already figured out the mount... and I think it will see the same amount of force... if not less, since there's now 2 u-joints spinning at all angles.
 
Oh and both 271's have a boss that looks like it's for that mount.

Looks like they'd drill and tap for a 14mm easily. pr maybe it takes a clam shell style mount to a vibration puck.

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I think those are just tabs for factory handling or possible the manufacturing process.

It looks like the OEM mounts use much beefier through bolts.

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