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Vaccine FAILURE, on every level.

CrustyJeep said:
You are pathetic. Read what I posted, or don't, but telling me what I do and don't consider credible is just sad.
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Please provide sources that you consider credible.
Until then, you are not in a position to complain about any sources or the content...
So.. name the sources...
 
Harry Johnson said:
Maybe I'm jaded from getting 3 shots, encountering shitty side effects of 2 of those, and still getting covid after with less pain than the original two shots buuuuuut..... does anyone else find it ironic that the only immunity the covid vaccines are creating is the immunity from lawsuits? :flipoff2:
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You're confused. If your case of COVID was actually less painful than the shots, isn't that a good thing? I mean, you can't possibly know what your outcome would have looked like without the shots, but a case of COVID less painful than the shots sounds great to me, if I end up actually getting it - which I have not. You don't usually come across as a glass-half-empty type of person, but that's what your logic here is.
 
CrustyJeep said:
You are pathetic. Read what I posted, or don't, but telling me what I do and don't consider credible is just sad.
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Whatever aligns with your religion, you call credible and whatever factually discredits it is not credible. You sir are pathetic
 
CrustyJeep said:
That's neat, but nobody asked for a source that you and/or rockota consider credible.
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No, I asked you for logical answers to questions and like clockwork, you completely deflected like you’re doing now and disappear until the conversation changes.
 
CrustyJeep said:
Your copy/pasta game is strong.
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You're "that source isn't credible... therefore it's BS" game is strong.

So again... Help reduce wasted 1's and 0's... provide the list of sources that are crustyjeep approved...
 
CrustyJeep said:
Help reduce 1's and 0's by re-posting what I already posted? Your logic game is definitely not strong.
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Ok... lead the horse to water.

repost your list of approved sources... just so that we don't have to go digging through the thread for the post that isn't there.
 
CrustyJeep said:
Help reduce 1's and 0's by re-posting what I already posted? Your logic game is definitely not strong.
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You know what game is strong?
Spontaneous abortions.
Miscarriages.
Otherwise healthy people falling over dead.
Seizures in the jab tent.
A nurse falling over out cold minutes after the jab. (Whatever happened to Tiffany Dover, anyway?)
Delayed speech in kids because of masks.
Antisocial behavior due to masks.
Myocarditis.

No amount of spin or gaslighting will make these basic observable facts go away. Never even heard of myocarditis until 2021.

Get your jab,
They made it in a lab!
The stuff dreams are made of!
Only if you accept your shot in the name of tranny love.
So good itll make your heart pop.
Or make doctors look at you in astonishment, as you uncontrollably break dance on the floor. Give it another seizure and a flop.
 
MuntCuffin said:
A nurse falling over out cold minutes after the jab. (Whatever happened to Tiffany Dover, anyway?)
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She's fine :lmao:

www.esquire.com

Tiffany Dover Was Never Dead

A nurse fainted while receiving her Covid-19 vaccine and, as conspiracy theory expert Brandy Zadrozny knew right then, that was just the beginning. This is the story of how a lie spreads.
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CrustyJeep said:
You're confused. If your case of COVID was actually less painful than the shots, isn't that a good thing? I mean, you can't possibly know what your outcome would have looked like without the shots, but a case of COVID less painful than the shots sounds great to me, if I end up actually getting it - which I have not. You don't usually come across as a glass-half-empty type of person, but that's what your logic here is.
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The same can be said for those that got the jab. How do you know that you didn't get covid because of the jab? Once you got the jab and got covid anyway and had mild symptoms was that because of the jab? You can't prove that. I've never taken the shot. worked and socialized all through the pandemic and have never gotten or tested positive for covid. If i did have covid it was so mild that I never knew. If i had gotten the jab people would say that I never got covid because of the jab. There is no way to prove anything.

Do what you think is right for yourself (and family) and don't worry about other people.
 
nahmus said:
The same can be said for those that got the jab. How do you know that you didn't get covid because of the jab? Once you got the jab and got covid anyway and had mild symptoms was that because of the jab? You can't prove that. I've never taken the shot. worked and socialized all through the pandemic and have never gotten or tested positive for covid. If i did have covid it was so mild that I never knew. If i had gotten the jab people would say that I never got covid because of the jab. There is no way to prove anything.

Do what you think is right for yourself (and family) and don't worry about other people.
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That's right, by the same token that Harry can't know what his outcome would have been without the jab, no individual can know what outcome they would have otherwise had, jab or no jab. It has to be based on statistics. There is a statistically lower chance that a person who gets the jab will have a worse outcome with covid than if they hadn't gotten the jab. That's all we can really say, and I've never claimed otherwise. But Harry had mild symptoms. In any case, it sucks that he got it, but mild symptoms seems like a good thing to me.
 
CrustyJeep said:
It has to be based on statistics. There is a statistically lower chance that a person who gets the jab will have a worse outcome with covid than if they hadn't gotten the jab. That's all we can really say, and I've never claimed otherwise.
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Who's we? :flipoff2:


And all Covid19 statistics are the least believable in the history of the world.
 
CrustyJeep said:
You're confused. If your case of COVID was actually less painful than the shots, isn't that a good thing? I mean, you can't possibly know what your outcome would have looked like without the shots, but a case of COVID less painful than the shots sounds great to me, if I end up actually getting it - which I have not. You don't usually come across as a glass-half-empty type of person, but that's what your logic here is.
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Well, here's the thing, it's one of those really impossible to say things because we have no idea what my reaction would have been without the shot. But I did have about as close to a control group as I could get in the form of one of the other dads of a kid who got exposed on the same day my son did (he, my son, and patient zero in our little neighborhood were all friends). This other dad did not trust the vaccine, so he didn't get any. We both got the same strain at roughly the same time and our symptoms were identical in severity and duration. The only difference was, the other dad had a headache every morning for about a week, whereas I did not.

I compare that to the second moderna shot I got which left me unable to even get out of bed for a day I felt so crappy(to the point that I really wanted to haul my sorry butt to the couch to watch some TV, but I physically couldn't) and the third (booster) of moderna that was supposedly a lower dosage yet still left me bedridden for about a day. My kids still talk about it since I don't really get sick ever.

Yes, this is a limited experience in a small bubble with a single strain(omicron maybe?), but the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth(sorry to all you guys who lost your sense of taste :flipoff2:). I get the flu shot every year so that I don't get the flu during flu season. That pretty much just works. I got the covid vaccine and it doesn't even really give immunity, then I come to find out it didn't even really limit the severity of my symptoms. What I do know that it did was make me a useless pile unable to go to work or hang out with my kids for 24 hours every time I added on a shot.

Meanwhile, my kids got covid with no vaccine and bounced back in a few days and pretty much just had a bad cough and runny nose the whole time. People are urging me to get my kids the covid vaccine, but why would I wish my shitty experience on them when there seems to be zero benefit? Why would I want to force that on anyone? Why would I even want to advocate that experience to anyone?
 
Harry Johnson said:
Meanwhile, my kids got covid with no vaccine and bounced back in a few days and pretty much just had a bad cough and runny nose the whole time. People are urging me to get my kids the covid vaccine, but why would I wish my shitty experience on them when there seems to be zero benefit? Why would I want to force that on anyone? Why would I even want to advocate that experience to anyone?
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Bad liberal! You need to stop thinking for yourself and "trust the science" and emotions!
Where is your pride flag right now during June?!?!!! Reeeeeee!
 
Yota Up said:
Bad liberal! You need to stop thinking for yourself and "trust the science" and emotions!
Where is your pride flag right now during June?!?!!! Reeeeeee!
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It's actually a point of contention with our pediatrician.

I don't own a pride flag because I'm not gay or whatever. I'd feel like a poser. Same reason I don't fly a Mexican flag on Cinco de Mayo :flipoff2:
 
And then there's the question about unintended and unforeseeable long term side effects that you've opened yourself up to with an experimental drug. With no long term studies, and negligible short term benefits, if any, for a illness with overwhelming chances of full recovery, the vax is a hard pass for me. I don't like rolling the dice when my health is concerned, but everyone else can do what they want IMO. Leave me and mine out of your decisions.
 
CrustyJeep said:
Especially the ones that say the vaccine kills lots of people :flipoff2:
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Yes. The incidents on soccer fields, football fields, etc are just "isolated incidents."

Don't forget that mesothelioma number in 10 to 15 years.

Oh wait.

The manufacturers were exempted from liability from the damages their experimental shots do.

Now why would that be the case? 🤔

Its obvious from the pharmaceutical lobbying investments as well as no shortage of advertisements that the pharmaceutical companies could stomache the financial liability from just a "few" adverse effects.

Unless its not "a few."
How much is someone's life worth, anyway? Is it worth more or less if that have to go through the agony of the heart expanding while functionality goes down, all tied up with a pretty bow of a massive heart attack?
 
CrustyJeep said:
That's right, by the same token that Harry can't know what his outcome would have been without the jab, no individual can know what outcome they would have otherwise had, jab or no jab. It has to be based on statistics. There is a statistically lower chance that a person who gets the jab will have a worse outcome with covid than if they hadn't gotten the jab. That's all we can really say, and I've never claimed otherwise. But Harry had mild symptoms. In any case, it sucks that he got it, but mild symptoms seems like a good thing to me.
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I’m assuming that you’ll be back with an edit to cite sources shortly, correct?
 
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