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Vaccination mandates on the horizon.

When 1984 collides with clown world. Coming for the kids next.

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Thefishguy77 said:
Its funny. They keep coming up with more manufacturers of different “vaccines”. Yet the problem they have is getting them to actually work on a coronavirus, they dont, and getting those that dont want them to take them. Most wont.
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We (the world) have been working on a cure for the common cold, a coronavirus, for decades with no luck. But, in a year we have three "viable" vaccines to combat this man made coronavirus. I don't think so. Let's take a look at what this is really about.

2021 revenues due to vaccine sales:

Pfizer - $33.5B (not sure of grant $)
Moderna - $19.2B (also received $10B in development grant from US govt)
J&J - $2.5B (not sure of grant $)

And, the government through the American Rescue Plan is redistributing (stealing from the public, taking a cut and then giving back) $350B in funding for state, local, territorial and tribal governments to respond to Covid-19 "emergency" and to bring back jobs.

It's about fear. Make everyone scared. Then they'll never ask why. Then make the quick money. Make enough that inflation will never affect you or yours. Then watch from your castle as you live in luxury as the rest of the country falls apart over the next decades. But, why would you care? They are cowards and would never take away your wealth or freedom.
 
Well I just blacklisted myself in the office today.

Grocery store in town had "an outbreak". Our human resources person does their payroll. They're in there a few times a week. They came into the office today. Brought up the fact that I just had to spend ten days in quarantine, asking why they're still here. They should be home and waiting for a negative test result.

I don't live with them, only work with them.
Five days a week I see you folks more than I see my family. How is that any better?
Ugh, whatever. Shake their head and walk away from me, along with all the others there listening in.

So apparently you can only spread this thing with people you live with? Not work with? And if your take home is high enough, you're immune. Did I get all that?

edit: the HR person is also the one that explained to me that I had to take two weeks of my own PTO for the safety of others.
 
rugger said:
It's about fear. Make everyone scared. Then they'll never ask why. Then make the quick money.
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Yep. I've said it here before that marketing your product as a Pain Killer is much more effective than marketing it as a Vitamin. With the Marxist Stream Media fully onboard, they have an around the clock propaganda machine producing the "Pain" while their Gov't puppets keep telling everyone that the Vax is the "Pain Killer."

The real "Pain Killer" would be to pull the plug on the Main Stream Media.
 
A covid policy is now whatever a company wants - it only has to matter if they want it to matter. :rasta:

My woman had a reported case at work from a co-worker. It was a vaxxed person confirmed/tested with covid. Person worked several days with the crew before falling ill. A notice/warning went out, but nobody was stood down. The attitude was... you should all be vaxxed by now anyway, so you won't get badly sick. If to do get sick, stay home. Otherwise, just carry on.

Our company can't make us burn our pto, but you can call in sick as you wish (with pay) until you use up the allotment. Same as before covid.
 
woods said:
Well I just blacklisted myself in the office today.

Grocery store in town had "an outbreak". Our human resources person does their payroll. They're in there a few times a week. They came into the office today. Brought up the fact that I just had to spend ten days in quarantine, asking why they're still here. They should be home and waiting for a negative test result.

I don't live with them, only work with them.
Five days a week I see you folks more than I see my family. How is that any better?
Ugh, whatever. Shake their head and walk away from me, along with all the others there listening in.

So apparently you can only spread this thing with people you live with? Not work with? And if your take home is high enough, you're immune. Did I get all that?

edit: the HR person is also the one that explained to me that I had to take two weeks of my own PTO for the safety of others.
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At my workplace you don't have to Quarantine if vaxxed, even if it is your spouse or child who is the exposure source.
That is Covid logic.
 
CarterKraft said:
At my workplace you don't have to Quarantine if vaxxed, even if it is your spouse or child who is the exposure source.
That is Covid logic.
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Its like 10 days for vaxxed or 14 if not. I can't get all the combinations down. There's also something about if you're married to someone verse dating someone. There's a difference there too.
 
woods said:
Its like 10 days for vaxxed or 14 if not. I can't get all the combinations down. There's also something about if you're married to someone verse dating someone. There's a difference there too.
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equal treatment under the law... :flipoff2:
 
woods said:
Its like 10 days for vaxxed or 14 if not. I can't get all the combinations down. There's also something about if you're married to someone verse dating someone. There's a difference there too.
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if it is complicated in procedure it must be well thought out and effective
 
[486] said:
if it is complicated in procedure it must be well thought out and effective
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If your vaxxed, its this.
If not, its that.
Married, this.
Dating, that.
You make this much, this.
Slave to the insurance, that.
Contact with coworker, this.
Contact with relative, that.

Then you mix all that up it varies.
 
Thefishguy77 said:
Possibly related to the temporary ban of biden vax mandate?
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could be... just said that the EO moved the dates. They are aware of lawsuits filed and the temporary injunction discussion re: OSHA. But say that EO > OSHA in our case.
 
rockota said:
our mandate has been moved back 6 weeks.

/interesting.
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no word here yet
our headquarters in the US is in Ft. Worth, so that will be interesting. VA site doesn't seem to be following the TX lead and is handled independently.
 
The effectiveness of all three coronavirus vaccines available in the United States has dropped substantially after six months, new research published in the journal Science reveals.

The most dramatic drop was from Johnson & Johnson’s shot, whose effectiveness plummeted to 13.1% in September from 86.4% in March.

During the same time period, Pfizer’s vaccine also fell below the 50% effective mark to 43.3% from 86.9% when it was first administered.
 
Honky Lips said:
The effectiveness of all three coronavirus vaccines available in the United States has dropped substantially after six months, new research published in the journal Science reveals.

The most dramatic drop was from Johnson & Johnson’s shot, whose effectiveness plummeted to 13.1% in September from 86.4% in March.

During the same time period, Pfizer’s vaccine also fell below the 50% effective mark to 43.3% from 86.9% when it was first administered.
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unpossible
 
Honky Lips said:
The effectiveness of all three coronavirus vaccines available in the United States has dropped substantially after six months, new research published in the journal Science reveals.

The most dramatic drop was from Johnson & Johnson’s shot, whose effectiveness plummeted to 13.1% in September from 86.4% in March.

During the same time period, Pfizer’s vaccine also fell below the 50% effective mark to 43.3% from 86.9% when it was first administered.
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Someone posted an awesome video of the efficacy too on it. It wasn't YouTube. Shit, I forget where it was...
 
huh. that was easy.

 
Where is Newsom? Anyone see him around? He's been MIA for 2 weeks now with the pathetic excuse of "family issues"? Ha ha, yeah, family issues. Sure. Nothing to do with his latest booster shot now is it?

In other news, "safe and effective" was developed without any sacrifice based on how rushed it was, right? Right?
"for researchers who were testing Pfizer’s vaccine at several sites in Texas during that autumn, speed may have come at the cost of data integrity and patient safety. A regional director who was employed at the research organisation Ventavia Research Group has told The BMJ that the company falsified data, unblinded patients, employed inadequately trained vaccinators, and was slow to follow up on adverse events reported in Pfizer’s pivotal phase III trial. Staff who conducted quality control checks were overwhelmed by the volume of problems they were finding. After repeatedly notifying Ventavia of these problems, the regional director, Brook Jackson, emailed a complaint to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Ventavia fired her later the same day. Jackson has provided The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails."
www.bmj.com

Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial

Revelations of poor practices at a contract research company helping to carry out Pfizer’s pivotal covid-19 vaccine trial raise questions about data integrity and regulatory oversight. Paul D Thacker reports In autumn 2020 Pfizer’s chairman and chief executive, Albert Bourla, released an open...
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Yota Up said:
Natural immunity scores another +1.
"it “neutralizes all known SARS-CoV-2 strains — including newly emerged mutants"

MSN

www.msn.com
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It doesn't matter if the natural immunity kicks Covid's ass like a one-sided UFC fight. The agenda is what's important here....not any acceptance of cures and preventions other than the 'vaccines.'
 
Osha and CMS mandates are out here in Florida. It appears it all healthcare got a mass sent email on Tuesday stating that all healthcare employers had to have their covid vax plan in place and active by December 5th. What that basically means is the first dose of the vax has to be received by the start of business Dec. 5th and any subsequent boosters by Jan. 4th or you will be terminated, or placed on unpaid administrative leave.
 
Fl-Krawler said:
Osha and CMS mandates are out here in Florida. It appears it all healthcare got a mass sent email on Tuesday stating that all healthcare employers had to have their covid vax plan in place and active by December 5th. What that basically means is the first dose of the vax has to be received by the start of business Dec. 5th and any subsequent boosters by Jan. 4th or you will be terminated, or placed on unpaid administrative leave.
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Is Florida supporting that? Thought they were on the list of states fighting the feds over it
 
Provience said:
Is Florida supporting that? Thought they were on the list of states fighting the feds over it
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They are fighting it, but it doesn't seem to be stopping them from implementing this BS regardless. Between the stay and Florida's own laws against vaccine mandates and passports they are still pushing this through, and most healthcare is following right along since CMS is the primary funder for most entities (they cover 85% of the budget at my primary employer as a nurse). Because I have no intentions of getting vaxxed I've started the process of finding someone to buy me out of my lease at my shop. The plan is to leverage the equity of the property/rental where my old shop is located and use the funds to pay off all my business debt and have a new shop built on that property (3ac). With the lower overhead I should be able to make a move to the shop being my primary source of employment
 
Fl-Krawler said:
Osha and CMS mandates are out here in Florida. It appears it all healthcare got a mass sent email on Tuesday stating that all healthcare employers had to have their covid vax plan in place and active by December 5th. What that basically means is the first dose of the vax has to be received by the start of business Dec. 5th and any subsequent boosters by Jan. 4th or you will be terminated, or placed on unpaid administrative leave.
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Is that part of the OSHA mandate? The major healthcare providers like wellstar have been united on mandatory vaccines for a while already.
 
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