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TRUMP INDICTMENT

Love him or hate him, being Trump's lawyer has to be the most shit job in existence. :lmao:

If the entire might of the United States Deep State was trying to destroy me, I would have entire crews of lawyers making sure my last sneeze was legal.
When the state is after you it doesn't matter if your shit is nominally legal. All that does is delay them. They will find some ambiguously worded law and twist it to prosecute you.
 
When the state is after you it doesn't matter if your shit is nominally legal. All that does is delay them. They will find some ambiguously worded law and twist it to prosecute you.
yeah, like the whole 'you are not allowed to take classified documents home after you are out of office' thing. So confusing!
 
yeah, like the whole 'you are not allowed to take classified documents home after you are out of office' thing. So confusing!
Yeah the current pres and the old wanna be pres were very confused.
 

James Comey Says He Supports Biden In 2024​

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During a recent interview, James Comey, who has been openly critical of former President Donald Trump, was questioned about his opinions on the upcoming 2024 presidential election.
Comey stated during an interview on MSNBC that Joe Biden is the preferred candidate. Jen Psaki, who used to be Biden’s White House press secretary, asked the question.
Comey said he is happy that Biden is willing to serve. He said the person in the presidency must be committed to the rule of law and the country’s values. He is not referring to policy disagreement– everyone should consider things similarly, regardless of conflicts. He said the president should follow the law and Constitution.

Psaki mentioned that Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott have announced their presidential candidacies. Nikki Haley, Asa Hutchinson, and Vivek Ramaswamy were already in the race. Psaki inquired whether Comey, who was previously a Republican but voted for Biden in 2020, would contemplate any of the Republican candidates joining the 2024 election.
Comey said that it “has to be Joe Biden.”
In the interview, Comey stated that if Trump is re-elected, there would be a “retribution presidency” for four years. Comey was fired by Trump in 2017 while leading the FBI’s investigation into alleged Russian collusion with Trump’s campaign.
According to Psaki, during the CNN town hall, Trump did not pledge to support Ukraine in their conflict with Russia.
Comey believes that Donald Trump shouldn’t be re-elected as president because he seems to have a strong admiration for Vladimir Putin, although the reasons for this are unclear. Comey hopes that the intelligence community can respond more effectively than they did in 2016.
He said they will be there for this election.
 
and the one before the one before
I'm still having a tough time understanding how these guys justify taking of classified docs, especially a VP. Now the two things that come to mind are they are leverage over enemies, or they want them for their presidential library or at least to reference for the various displays. I've been to the Nixon library and the Reagan library and I was kind of amazed they had displays of both the good and bad, including Watergate and Iran/Contra. I'm sure they were sanitized versions of what happened, but that they were there at all was surprising.
 
I'm still having a tough time understanding how these guys justify taking of classified docs, especially a VP. Now the two things that come to mind are they are leverage over enemies, or they want them for their presidential library or at least to reference for the various displays. I've been to the Nixon library and the Reagan library and I was kind of amazed they had displays of both the good and bad, including Watergate and Iran/Contra. I'm sure they were sanitized versions of what happened, but that they were there at all was surprising.
no doubt some blackmail, but I'd bet on a lot of it also being the sort of stuff that justifies actions which were taken negatively in the public eye

'this is what we knew at the time, I made that decision after this specific briefing so cut me some slack'
 
no doubt some blackmail, but I'd bet on a lot of it also being the sort of stuff that justifies actions which were taken negatively in the public eye

'this is what we knew at the time, I made that decision after this specific briefing so cut me some slack'
Well it's not like a 1940's detective movie where you "get the negatives", I can only assume that if there's one printed copy, there are others.
 
With the classified docs me thinks the current admin is fruit loops over anything Ukraine coming out and thats why they are freaked. Similar to the FD 1023 fbi docs, when the Vindman, Nuland (shes working on Hungry with Soros now) and the whistleblower sang, impeachment hearing happened lickity split.

There is a pattern here not to mention the Ukraine conflict escalated and prior to Russia invading the word on the street was Ukraine was shreading docs and hard drives. The document they dont have that Trump says he had and the prosecution doesn't have is regarding Iran...The same Iran Kerry was secretly trying to negotiate with the regime during the Trump admin. So again there is a shit ton of classified shit out there our enemies foreign and domestic have and everyone has a hand in the kitty.
 
Well it's not like a 1940's detective movie where you "get the negatives", I can only assume that if there's one printed copy, there are others.

The fact that there are multiple copies is the point.

Having the only copy of info that clears your name is useless. If other people don't know about that info and can't find that info they will accuse you of bullshit then you gotta fight them.

If they have a copy (in the records) and they know you have a copy then they are less likely to try and misconstrue the facts for their gain and your loss.
 
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The fact that there are multiple copies is the point.

Having the only copy of info that clears your name is useless. If other people don't know about that info and can't find that info they will accuse you of bullshit then you gotta fight them.

If they have a copy (in the records) and they know you have a copy then they are less likely to try and misconstrue the facts for their gain and your loss.
And that has worked out for Trump exactly how? :laughing:
 

Trump’s poor personnel selections have caused him much trouble​

by tippinsights Editorial Board

Ask an average Trump voter who has been a Trump enemy since he came down the elevator in 2015. The response will be nearly unanimous: Liberal media, Democrats, GOP Never-Trumpers, Academia, Big Tech, Hollywood, Madison Avenue, Washington-Beltway insiders, executive branch agencies, the courts, and state and local government opponents.

But Trump has also had to fend off a cabal of people he has hired going back to the Trump organization, through his four years in the White House, and since leaving office. As Trump pleaded not guilty to 37 counts brought by Jack Smith, the Special Counsel, there is little doubt that Trump’s history of personnel selections is disastrous and has resulted in unprecedented legal troubles for him.

In 2016, as his campaign garnered increasing media coverage and won primaries, Trump replaced his loyal campaign manager Corey Lewandowski with ultimate Washington insider Paul Manafort who first served in the 1976 GOP convention. Trump was looking for a seasoned professional to help navigate delegate math, but the choice was terrible. Manafort often represented foreign politicians of questionable reputation, such as the former dictator of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos, the former dictator of Zaire Mobutu Sese Seko, and Angolan guerrilla leader Jonas Savimbi. Although Manafort served only for three months as Trump’s campaign lead before turning over the role to Stephen Bannon and Kellyanne Conway, the damage to Trump’s brand had started, and the media narrative began to take shape.

Manafort’s most notable client was the former President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, a Moscow-friendly politician whose 2014 ouster was partly designed and engineered by the United States during the Maidan uprising. The American involvement was not clandestine either. The late Sen. John McCain, one of the GOP’s strongest Neocons, went to Kyiv to address those crowds demonstrating for an ouster, later saying on CNN: “Hopefully, what we’re trying to do is bring about a peaceful transition here, that would stop the violence, would give the Ukrainian people what they unfortunately have not, with different revolutions sort of taking place, a real legitimate society.”

Trump should have had better judgment and not hired Manafort, who worked to advance Russian interests. Manafort’s numerous dealings caught the Feds’ attention, and he was later convicted on eight tax and bank fraud charges for his consulting work for Yanukovych. Had Trump not hired Manafort, the Russia-Russia-Russia frenzy might have never hobbled Trump.

During the transition, Trump toyed with appointing Mitt Romney, later the ultimate Never Trumper, as his secretary of state. Had this choice gone through, all of Trump’s foreign policy accomplishments (no new wars, victory against ISIS, withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal, the Abraham Accords) would not have been possible.

Those closest to him in his White House, such as Mike Pence, former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, and Nikki Haley, the former UN ambassador, have broken ranks so much that they are running against him for the nomination.

Former Attorney General William Barr, while appearing to be supportive of Trump following the release of the Mueller Report, took a kids’ glove approach to deal with the DOJ and the alphabet soup of agencies under it. Barr’s biggest failure was not using the DOJ’s Election Crimes Branch to investigate changes to mail-in and universal ballot procedures in numerous states before the 2020 election. Barr also failed to throttle Zuckerberg’s largesse to unlawfully help elect Democrat candidates by funding election workers, which attracted the attention of public watchdog groups. Having turned on Trump after the election, Barr is a bitter critic of him on TV.

Trump, to reward Jeff Sessions, the Alabama senator who was one of the first GOP politicians to embrace him, made Sessions his first Attorney General without sufficient assurances that Sessions would stand his ground against the brewing Deep State conspiracy that was out to get Trump. That hiring decision turned out to be the most consequential of his presidency. Sessions caved, the wily James Comey manipulated Washington’s levers, and soon, Trump faced an incompetent but respected Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, whose investigation dragged on for nearly two long years.

In another head-scratcher, Trump replaced James Comey with Christopher Wray as the next Director of the FBI for the standard 10-year appointment. By all accounts, Wray has been a disaster. We now know from Sen. Charles Grassley that the FBI had knowledge of 17 audio tapes from a Burisma executive who had recorded conversations offering $5 million bribes each to Joe and Hunter Biden. A more honest FBI Director could have revealed this to Kevin McCarthy, the House Minority leader during Trump’s first impeachment, and Trump would never have been impeached.

Trump’s critics counter that the 45th president is notoriously disloyal to those who work for him, provoking them to turn against him. Michael Cohen, his fixer for decades, was the prosecution’s star witness in the Alvin Bragg trial. Trump’s defense lawyer Evan Corcoran is the prosecution’s star witness in the classified documents case. David Knowles, Senior Editor of Yahoo News, cataloged a long list of people Trump hired who eventually soured on him. Some were fired, others quit – but all continue to share a deep-rooted desire to hurt Trump.

To be sure, Trump had some luck with his personnel choices. His picks for the federal judiciary were excellent, including the three justices of the United States Supreme Court. With his knowledge of energy, having been governor of Texas, Rick Perry helped America become a net energy exporter and solidified Trump’s MAGA brand. Ben Carson, an accomplished neurosurgeon, never publicly contested Trump during Covid and stayed a loyal HUD secretary until the end. Larry Kudlow, Trump’s Director of the National Economic Council, strongly supports Trump’s policies on Fox Business and has been Trump’s ardent defender in the court of public opinion.

Trump’s poll numbers remain high, even after the indictment. The Constitution takes no position on whether Trump can run for office, even if Trump is found guilty. With Biden enveloped in his own legal troubles and struggling with extraordinarily low approval ratings, even among Democrats, Trump could win the presidency again, becoming only the second person in history to win non consecutive terms.

Ray Kroc, the American businessman who developed McDonald’s into the world’s most successful fast-food chain, is rumored to have said: “You’re only as good as the people you hire.” If Trump succeeds, he should heed Kroc’s advice and hire only the best. It is the least Trump can do to return the favor to Americans during a second term, even those that don’t vote for him.
 
Ray Kroc, the American businessman who developed McDonald’s into the world’s most successful fast-food chain, is rumored to have said: “You’re only as good as the people you hire.” If Trump succeeds, he should heed Kroc’s advice and hire only the best. It is the least Trump can do to return the favor to Americans during a second term, even those that don’t vote for him.

Well he did promise to hire the "best and brightest", and we can all see how that worked out.

His SCOTUS pics were solid, I wonder who recommended them? Not a slam, but an observation that likely any POTUS pics are going to be from a field of recommended candidates. As a swamp outsider, I doubt he had much knowledge of people that would be in line.
 
Yeah, but, there's a process to declassify them that he didn't follow. Or so several people in this thread have claimed, but can't actually articulate what that process is.
Regardless if the documents were or were not classified, if he had came out and announced he was not running for re-election....none of this would be happening. It's 100% political targeting. Anyone that would deny that is a moron.
 
But if you declassify them, they're not classified any longer....correct?
But if you declassify them, they're not classified any longer....correct?
it sounds like, from what I have read, that you are right. Except, you gotta declassify them while you are president, not after. Maybe the crux of the court proceedings will be when he declassified them. Also, once they are declassified, we can file FOIA requests for the data. A local paper near me (the Pine Cone) filed one for those documents to discover they have not been declassified.
 
Well he did promise to hire the "best and brightest", and we can all see how that worked out.

His SCOTUS pics were solid, I wonder who recommended them? Not a slam, but an observation that likely any POTUS pics are going to be from a field of recommended candidates. As a swamp outsider, I doubt he had much knowledge of people that would be in line.

I don’t know if he did hire the best and brightest. It seemed he was fought every step of the way.

Didn’t he get attached for firing a bunch of people, even though Clinton did the exact same thing?
 
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