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Harry Johnson said:
Instead, they'll just let Russian forces launch attacks from there? I'd say they're accountable either way.
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It seems like a but of a shift from a fee days ago when they were joining in, makes me wonder why they would not go in as well :confused:

Doesn't seem to be much benefit to standing to the side, other than maybe they are that confident in Russia? If so, why not join in the liberation of Ukraine?
 
Provience said:
It seems like a but of a shift from a fee days ago when they were joining in, makes me wonder why they would not go in as well :confused:

Doesn't seem to be much benefit to standing to the side, other than maybe they are that confident in Russia? If so, why not join in the liberation of Ukraine?
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They don't want that bad sanction juju that Putin got
 
Harry Johnson said:
They don't want that bad sanction juju that Putin got
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I guess :laughing: thought they were getting rolled up in many of them as well, guess not.

Giving up nuclear neutrality would seem like the greater cause for sanctions against them, but instead it just shows how useless all those grand standing statements and agreements are
 
bgaidan said:
Awww....triggered? :lmao:
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Must be. Don't know how I will ever make it through the rest of my day

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Fuzzydog said:
This is just IMHO, which I know doesn't count for shit, but having been just watching this unfold without actually looking hard at it ...... It all seems surreal.
So Russia invades Ukraine.
Then we see all these headlines
" Russia seizes Ukraine Nuke plant"
"Missiles land in Ukraine"
"People die and get hurt in Ukraine fighting"
"Convoy of Russian tanks spotted in Ukraine"

And people lose their fucking minds.

It's an invasion! What did people expect would happen? I just hate the retoric - using all the words - atrocities, humanitarian, war crimes, blah blah blah, but are we really seeing any of that?

I did a bit of Google Fu and the perception that I have is that the Russians are holding back. They want the Ukraine and will take it, but when the dust settles they want to be able to say " see it wasn't that bad - we don't go in all Shock and Awe"
. Sure there is some of the 'usual' war stuff but what I am seeing is that any little incident caught on camera gets blown out of proportion and played over and over and over again to give the world the impression that things are way worse than they actually are. In fact many of the clips I have seen highlight people talking about how they feel terrified, and don't know what had happened to their loved ones, if they are ok, on the run, or dead. Blah blah blah talking about potential bad stuff that takes on a life of its own when in fact nothing had actually happened to them.
Wat is bad enough for the people involved, we really don't need the media embellishing it.
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Are you old enough to remember the Tet Offensive? The Viet Cong attacked on a holiday called Tet sent in troops straight from North Viet Nam these were regular army, Veit Cong irregulars, I know you have seen the famouse picture of the guy with a revolver shooting some guy while two others held him! The man was coming out of the shooters house, where his family had been butchered, because he was the chief of police or something. Anyway they went for broke and got their asses handed to them, broke the back of the NVA, but the Amerrican news people saved it for them, there was one count them one C-130 burned at the airport, but by the time the news people did their evening news stories each taking their shot from a different angle of the same plane peole thought a whole fleet had been destroyed!
There is a book written about how to lie with pictures
 
bigun said:
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Beck has a habit of making predictions that sound crazy and turn out to be 100% correct. I've learned to at least keep one ear open when he speaks.


I also find it funny how the .gov is getting Google, Facebook, Twitter and the rest to go after the Russia just like they did conservatives here. That relationship is starting to blur the lines between the two.


Don't we still have people stuck in Afghanistan?
 
DICKWEED said:
History man, history. There has always been an abundance of Russian people. Josef Stalin killed more of his own people than the Nazis killed Jews. Russian people are a resource and a plague to Russian leadership. There has historically been so many that they don't know what to do with them. Nazino Island, they threw 6000 ppl on that island to actually eat each other. Gulags, drop people off in Siberia and tell them to build or die. Leningrad, every other person gets a gun, the others get one magazine of bullets and run into German machine guns. If they turned around or hesitated, they were shot in the head by their own people. These were not trained soldiers just like the ones we are seeing now in UKR. History repeats itself and RUS citizens have not and do not mean jack shit to the ruling class.
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You confused the two grads. In the great patriotic war Stalingrad was the alleged hyped call of duty type shit the media developed. True or not, maybe, kinda certainly exGERATED. Leningrad is the city on the Baltic that was cut off for several YEARS and hundreds of thousands starved there. But in both cities they held and the Nazi were stopped. Read both books in HS. But yea to the rest of your history lesson. :beer: I doubt the current Russian army is sending unskilled untrained conscripts. That smacks of bullshit and propaganda.
 
gt1guy said:
Beck has a habit of making predictions that sound crazy and turn out to be 100% correct. I've learned to at least keep one ear open when he speaks.


I also find it funny how the .gov is getting Google, Facebook, Twitter and the rest to go after the Russia just like they did conservatives here. That relationship is starting to blur the lines between the two.


Don't we still have people stuck in Afghanistan?
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Scary and likely true.
 
gt1guy said:
Beck has a habit of making predictions that sound crazy and turn out to be 100% correct. I've learned to at least keep one ear open when he speaks.


I also find it funny how the .gov is getting Google, Facebook, Twitter and the rest to go after the Russia just like they did conservatives here. That relationship is starting to blur the lines between the two.


Don't we still have people stuck in Afghanistan?
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rockota said:
Scary and likely true.
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I remember when he started warning everybody about George Soros, everybody was George who?
Now everytime you turn around his touch is there.
 
funny how our fuel prices are 4 times higher now and rising..............

our cheapest fuel is 2 euros per litre............
 
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