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300 CFS is a good cutoff. It’s raining here at 2800’, not much snow this year so far.

This camera is up I80 at Kingvale, you can see Old Man Mountain to the L.

We should have way more snow by now.


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Can we toss a little Fordyce talk in here as well? Since we're coming from Texas we'd like to hit it while we're out there. Looks like late July should be ok with typical flow rates to cross the rivers (~175ish)? whats the maximum flow rate for safe crossings? And no bathrooms on it like the rubicon, correct?
Check the schedule for Sierra Trek. Sometimes they boost flows ahead of the 10 days that they significantly reduce it for the event.

I agree with 300 as a safe cutoff. I’ve done 425 cfs and it swallowed my 42’s and pushed me downstream a bit at committee crossing.
 
There's bathrooms at Eagle Lakes staging and Meadow Lake. Basically the beginning and end.
Agree on the flow. After 300 things get interesting.
 
Excellent info, thanks! Looks like Sierra Trek is Aug 8-11 this year. We’re planning to be on Fordyce July 26-27.
 
Get any hotel reservation that you are planning on anywhere near Yosemite NOW. Be sure you take the bucket shitter and WAG bags for the Rubicon. Maybe take a day off to simply kick back somewhere on the trial away from the dust and noise. Your post and pics here will be :beer::beer::beer:
Also, that time of year Yosemite valley is jammed with traffic. Parking is also a nightmare in the valley.
 
If you find yourself on the 395 end of 120 ( Tioga pass) you gotta eat at the gas station
( breakfast preferably) this place rocks.
I can also vouch for their lunches. The tacos there are amazing.

Came to say that I hate hitting any of the tourist spots in yosemite in the summer. It's a zoo, there's too many dumbasses, and horrible traffic. That said, if you've never stood up above and looked down the valley, I recommend at least doing that. It'll take your breath away and almost doesn't seem real. Screw camping there, and if you hike, go as high and far as you can to avoid masses of humans blocking your way.

Oh, and I might be able to make those Rubicon trip dates. Need to talk to my wife since I think we might already be up in South Lake Tahoe around then.
 
Oakhurst has some decent ABNB's for reasonable. Go to Southgate brewery when you are there. We usually hit Yosemite in the winter(going mid Feb) to avoid the crowds.
If they end up staying in Oakhurst they can stop at the Mariposa Grove of Sequoias just inside the park.
 
Yea the place doesn't look like it would have a chef in the kitchen..
 
If they end up staying in Oakhurst they can stop at the Mariposa Grove of Sequoias just inside the park.
Yes, there are a couple other groves in the park as well, but nothing is as impressive as the Grant and Sherman trees in Kings and Sequoia. And the view from Moro rock is unparalleled. Dad worked for the park service, so I've been a few times.:laughing:

If you hit Sequoia one other quick hike is Tokopah Falls. Here it is last July from below, and above. And a bunch of snow at 8000' which is unusual for mid July:eek:
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More input regarding Yosemite/Sequoia days… First, it’s nice to see a lot of praise for my
hometown of oakhurst. Lots of abnb to choose from as well as random chain hotels. Check bass lake and north fork as well. The Yosemite entrance via 41 is better IMO. Tunnel view and easier access to Glacier Point. Sequoias are better in Seki NP but If you want to see Mariposa Grove I can drop a pin on the forest service road on the park boundary you can hit. Skips the shuttle ride and longer walk; let’s you park less than .5 mile from the trees.

Also if you’re still trying to get some wheeling in at that stage of the trip, oakhurst/bass lake has a couple short but really fun trails to wheel right off the highway. I’m sure I’ll be around I could take you guys out and show ya
 
More input regarding Yosemite/Sequoia days… First, it’s nice to see a lot of praise for my
hometown of oakhurst. Lots of abnb to choose from as well as random chain hotels. Check bass lake and north fork as well. The Yosemite entrance via 41 is better IMO. Tunnel view and easier access to Glacier Point. Sequoias are better in Seki NP but If you want to see Mariposa Grove I can drop a pin on the forest service road on the park boundary you can hit. Skips the shuttle ride and longer walk; let’s you park less than .5 mile from the trees.

Also if you’re still trying to get some wheeling in at that stage of the trip, oakhurst/bass lake has a couple short but really fun trails to wheel right off the highway. I’m sure I’ll be around I could take you guys out and show ya
Need waypoints:flipoff2:
 
Also if you’re still trying to get some wheeling in at that stage of the trip, oakhurst/bass lake has a couple short but really fun trails to wheel right off the highway. I’m sure I’ll be around I could take you guys out and show ya
There are?

Besides the trip up to the fire lookout ( which I won’t name so it doesn’t become popular).

Next time I’m in Fresno I’ll ask you, I run a full size so I may not fit.
 
There are?

Besides the trip up to the fire lookout ( which I won’t name so it doesn’t become popular).

Next time I’m in Fresno I’ll ask you, I run a full size so I may not fit.
The fire lookout is fun. Not to many places around with better views with as little effort it takes to run up there
Probably thinking swamp, coyote or red lake trails...

Those are great trails and so is the Dusy. IMO the Dusy is tougher/better than the Rubicon. Rooster Rock on the Swamp Lake trail is interesting. :flipoff2:
I'm talking Bass Lake side of the hill, not shaver/huntington. Chepo Saddle specifically, but there are others. The only trails that will come up with a simple search are things like Iron and Star Lakes. Both are great if you're just looking to not spend a day in Yosemite but want good scenery and no crowds. But for actual wheeling theres a few things sub 20 minutes from the Oakhurst area and really close to Bass Lake. Search "Chepo" on the 559 Yotas group on fb for some pics and vids to get a sense of whats in that area.
 
The fire lookout is fun. Not to many places around with better views with as little effort it takes to run up there



I'm talking Bass Lake side of the hill, not shaver/huntington. Chepo Saddle specifically, but there are others. The only trails that will come up with a simple search are things like Iron and Star Lakes. Both are great if you're just looking to not spend a day in Yosemite but want good scenery and no crowds. But for actual wheeling theres a few things sub 20 minutes from the Oakhurst area and really close to Bass Lake. Search "Chepo" on the 559 Yotas group on fb for some pics and vids to get a sense of whats in that area.
Hmm, hadn't heard of the before, off to YouTube.
 
More input regarding Yosemite/Sequoia days… First, it’s nice to see a lot of praise for my
hometown of oakhurst. Lots of abnb to choose from as well as random chain hotels. Check bass lake and north fork as well. The Yosemite entrance via 41 is better IMO. Tunnel view and easier access to Glacier Point. Sequoias are better in Seki NP but If you want to see Mariposa Grove I can drop a pin on the forest service road on the park boundary you can hit. Skips the shuttle ride and longer walk; let’s you park less than .5 mile from the trees.

Also if you’re still trying to get some wheeling in at that stage of the trip, oakhurst/bass lake has a couple short but really fun trails to wheel right off the highway. I’m sure I’ll be around I could take you guys out and show ya
We'll be in Yosemite West Feb 18th to 21st I think. Probably do a dinner in Oakhurst if the roads open. If you're close by, Ill buy you a beer.
 
Lots of great info in here. So focusing on these dates for now::::

Day 11: July 22 - Tahoe-(1)->deer valley trail (4)->Yosemite (4)(hotel)

Day 12: July 23 - yosemite (hotel)

Day 13: July 24 - sequoia (hotel)

Day 14: July 25 - sequoia to st george

Looks like Deer Valley/ Slick Rock will be the last wheeling we do for the trip. So the planning is to get a ABNB for 2 nights for Yosemite in Oakhurst. Plan is to see Tuolomne Meadows, SouthGate Brewery…el Capitan…with a full day being spent there July 23. Not sure we can get there with enough time to really beat the crowds July 22. Is it mainly driving around and seeing the different sites?

Then Plan is to hit the road early July 24 (3 hour drive) to Seqouia and at least see the big trees. Enough time? Doable?

July 25 plan is to hit the road for 9-10 hours to St George to visit a friend unless it’s completely out of my way? Im still trying to map this leg. He’s a 85+ year old man that I’d like to see since I have no idea when I’d ever get a chance to visit with him.




SLT=South Lake Tahoe
You might be better off trying to find an ABNB around Yosemite with that many people.
Any word on the SLT contact buddy? We’d want to store one hard top and 8 doors. We plotted the drive up to Reno from Vegas then dropping back down to the trailhead. Seems way too unrealistic. A SLT contact would be great since were staying in Stateline. Drop off the day before Rubicon and pickup after Rubicon or after our stay at the SLT ABNB.



Vegas is going to be dumb hot. When coming up from Laughlin jump onto Christmas tree pass, it's a scenic dirt road bypassing some pavement with a bunch of decorated Joshua trees.

There's an awesome hot spring outside Hawthorne my google foo is not having any luck finding. It's been 10+ years since I've been to it so it may no longer be accessible, it was on or right next to the Hilton ranch which looks like it was bought up by a conservation group.
Sounds great but don’t think we’d have time for it. Thanks for the suggestion :smokin:


Maybe 72blazer can shift his dates, we wont start the trail til the 21st at earliest. We'll start driving on the 18th, arrive 20th.
No go for us. Buddy’s wife may possible start work the week y’all are going, we’ve booked hotels and ABNBs, and putting in time off already. The logistics of a 2 week trip from
Texas is ridiculous. :homer:


I can also vouch for their lunches. The tacos there are amazing.

Came to say that I hate hitting any of the tourist spots in yosemite in the summer. It's a zoo, there's too many dumbasses, and horrible traffic. That said, if you've never stood up above and looked down the valley, I recommend at least doing that. It'll take your breath away and almost doesn't seem real. Screw camping there, and if you hike, go as high and far as you can to avoid masses of humans blocking your way.

Oh, and I might be able to make those Rubicon trip dates. Need to talk to my wife since I think we might already be up in South Lake Tahoe around then.
Be great to meet another Irate. Hope you can make it out.



Anyone for Yosemite, if you had one full day at it, what would it look like if you’ve never been? el Capitan has always been on my list. Such a cool history. :smokin:
 
Anyone for Yosemite, if you had one full day at it, what would it look like if you’ve never been? el Capitan has always been on my list. Such a cool history. :smokin:
How did you feel about hiking up hill for a really long time?? Mist trail to the back side of half dome, around to glacier point and back down whatever trail they is from there back to the valley was pretty good and the crowd really thinned out once you got higher.
 
How did you feel about hiking up hill for a really long time?? Mist trail to the back side of half dome, around to glacier point and back down whatever trail they is from there back to the valley was pretty good and the crowd really thinned out once you got higher.
Got 3 teenagers coming along that are super athletic but hate active exercise out of their routine stuff. I’m fairly conditioned. My group not so much. :laughing:
 
How did you feel about hiking up hill for a really long time?? Mist trail to the back side of half dome, around to glacier point and back down whatever trail they is from there back to the valley was pretty good and the crowd really thinned out once you got higher.
You are talking about 4 Mile trail- goes from the floor up to Glacier Point. It’s a nice hike.

With only a day…in July..the busiest time of year? Park in the first available spot, and count your blessings you found one. Then walk around, jump on the bus. There is a valley floor trail that is next to the cliffs on either side, makes you feel very small.
 
Anyone for Yosemite, if you had one full day at it, what would it look like if you’ve never been? el Capitan has always been on my list. Such a cool history. :smokin:
El Cap and the valley is the easiest because its visible from your windshield.... Entering via Oakhurst/41 takes you through tunnel view which puts you right inside every valley postcard/computer background you've seen. If you have one full day I'd say you gotta just choose if you wanna spend it mostly in car or on foot. The valley proper can be a total zoo but the second you start hiking you lose 80% of the people. I did the 4 mile trail on the 4th of July 2020 and 2021 and encountered less than 15 people throughout the day on one of the busiest days of the year. The 4 mile trail is a good idea to skip the crowds but it is a brutal hike if you're not ready for it. Good part is its scenic 100% of the time so go as far as you want and then turn around.
Mist trail is another iconic Yosemite hike but the barrier to entry is lower and it heads to a waterfall so expect to wait in human traffic if not there early or late afternoon.
Another option is hit the road early and head to the high country. You drive through the valley anyway and see those sites and then you'll get to see Tenaya Lake and Tuolomne Meadows. These are amazing sights and its shocking how many people travel across the world for this national park and draw the line at an extra hour of travel to get up to the high country. Also the lake at the east park entrance (Tioga Lake) has good trout fishing.

Then Plan is to hit the road early July 24 (3 hour drive) to Seqouia and at least see the big trees. Enough time? Doable?
Very doable. I don't think traffic is as brutal as Yosemite summer traffic and the big trees are basically on the side of the road. General Sherman tree is maybe a 5 minute walk from parking lot/shuttle stop.

Also the wife of country music guy Whitey Morgan has a great bar in Oakhurst that is a cool spot to check out.
 
We'll be in Yosemite West Feb 18th to 21st I think. Probably do a dinner in Oakhurst if the roads open. If you're close by, Ill buy you a beer.
Might take you up on that if I am around. I spent almost every school break throughout middle and high school doing construction on homes in Yosemite West with my dad so theres a good chance I worked on whatever condo or house you're in
 
You are talking about 4 Mile trail- goes from the floor up to Glacier Point. It’s a nice hike.
Is that what it's called? We had gotten up to glacier point and wanted to make our hike a loop rather than go back the way we came so we tried a different way down. Glacier point was closed to vehicles at the time due to snow, so we were the only ones up there and just sort of rolled the dice on way down without investigating where we were going too much.

I was a little bummed that most of the "hiking trail" was a paved pathway down, but I would imagine they have to do that to get the trails to survive the insane amount of foot traffic they get. We had that trail to ourselves that day.
 
Is that what it's called? We had gotten up to glacier point and wanted to make our hike a loop rather than go back the way we came so we tried a different way down. Glacier point was closed to vehicles at the time due to snow, so we were the only ones up there and just sort of rolled the dice on way down without investigating where we were going too much.

I was a little bummed that most of the "hiking trail" was a paved pathway down, but I would imagine they have to do that to get the trails to survive the insane amount of foot traffic they get. We had that trail to ourselves that day.
Yeah, 4 mile trail is the one that goes up to glacier and then I believe it’s the panorama trail that goes down the other side and makes it a loop. Glacier point when there’s no cars is a treat because it’s normally so damn crowded up there.
 
Got a ABNB booked in Oakhurst for the Yosemite run. Still looking for a place to stay for Seqouia. Sluggy suggested driving thru Death Valley at night?…. Can’t remember. So either stay close to Seqouia or running thru Death Valley and finding somewhere to stay after that route. Looking for suggestions.


Also, we booked places at Ballys before the Rubicon run in SLT…worse comes to worse, we will rent a storage room to store our stuff for the Rubicon run. Think the logistics of the trip are pretty much finished up minus a few details. :homer:
 
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