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Robert Kennedy Jr.'s running mate suggests ticket may drop out, join forces with Trump to stop Harris

He wants to ride on JFK's coattails which are the families' politics. From everything they have said publically, they think he is off his rocker and when I hear his 'ideas' I think that no matter how odious they are as a group, it can also be true that he is a nut.

Well, JFK's politics would be seen as far right today. Shoot, if JFK was alive and running for office against Kameltoe, I would vote for him.

And when you get down to it, doesn't pretty much every politician other than the Paul's have some ideas that are whacko?
 
He wants to ride on JFK's coattails which are the families' politics. From everything they have said publically, they think he is off his rocker and when I hear his 'ideas' I think that no matter how odious they are as a group, it can also be true that he is a nut.
Democrats thinking someone is nuts that don't share their views? :laughing:
 
his own family (ENTIRE FAMILY) thinks he needs mental help and have warned the world about him. He's a nut. Trump needs to figure out how to keep RFK's voters without having to hear him talk... At some point, DJT will say that RFK is bull goose looney.
His entire family are Democratic Party shills. They think anyone who isn't a Democratic Party shills is a nut who needs mental help.
 
He wants to ride on JFK's coattails which are the families' politics. From everything they have said publically, they think he is off his rocker and when I hear his 'ideas' I think that no matter how odious they are as a group, it can also be true that he is a nut.

Looking into RFK (some months ago) made me "oh my god" out loud, which is a tall feat given modern politics. In the shadow of unrelenting momentum that the democrats have right now, trying to steal headlines by announcing the onboarding of a lunatic conspiracy theorist makes me think Trump wants to lose this. Especially after selecting Vance as VP. Nikki Haley would've been absolutely crushing this, and it makes me sad. But I think the GOP needs to truly self-destruct, and hopefully a more modern and intellectual party will emerge from its ashes.

You heard it here first, Trump is on track not just to lose, but on track to getting decimated. But November is a long way away, and it was just a few weeks ago I thought Trump was on his way to a landslide win. Both parties are (were) running candidates that were abysmal, and the dems just figured out how to get someone with a functioning brain. Apparently that's what it takes to win.

Would people be rushing to the polls to pull the level for Kamala/Walz if the opponent was anyone other than Trump? (Maybe DeSantis too) There is not a single moment in this race I can't figure out why the GOP would rather sink to the bottom of the ocean with Trump rather than pick Haley. But my conscious is clear. I voted for Haley, I won't vote for Trump, and hopefully after this trainwreck election is over, the GOP will figure itself out.
 
Looking into RFK (some months ago) made me "oh my god" out loud, which is a tall feat given modern politics. In the shadow of unrelenting momentum that the democrats have right now, trying to steal headlines by announcing the onboarding of a lunatic conspiracy theorist makes me think Trump wants to lose this. Especially after selecting Vance as VP. Nikki Haley would've been absolutely crushing this, and it makes me sad. But I think the GOP needs to truly self-destruct, and hopefully a more modern and intellectual party will emerge from its ashes.

You heard it here first, Trump is on track not just to lose, but on track to getting decimated. But November is a long way away, and it was just a few weeks ago I thought Trump was on his way to a landslide win. Both parties are (were) running candidates that were abysmal, and the dems just figured out how to get someone with a functioning brain. Apparently that's what it takes to win.

Would people be rushing to the polls to pull the level for Kamala/Walz if the opponent was anyone other than Trump? (Maybe DeSantis too) There is not a single moment in this race I can't figure out why the GOP would rather sink to the bottom of the ocean with Trump rather than pick Haley. But my conscious is clear. I voted for Haley, I won't vote for Trump, and hopefully after this trainwreck election is over, the GOP will figure itself out.
:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Nikki Haley :lmao::lmao::homer::lmao::lmao:
 
Looking into RFK (some months ago) made me "oh my god" out loud, which is a tall feat given modern politics. In the shadow of unrelenting momentum that the democrats have right now, trying to steal headlines by announcing the onboarding of a lunatic conspiracy theorist makes me think Trump wants to lose this. Especially after selecting Vance as VP. Nikki Haley would've been absolutely crushing this, and it makes me sad. But I think the GOP needs to truly self-destruct, and hopefully a more modern and intellectual party will emerge from its ashes.

You heard it here first, Trump is on track not just to lose, but on track to getting decimated. But November is a long way away, and it was just a few weeks ago I thought Trump was on his way to a landslide win. Both parties are (were) running candidates that were abysmal, and the dems just figured out how to get someone with a functioning brain. Apparently that's what it takes to win.

Would people be rushing to the polls to pull the level for Kamala/Walz if the opponent was anyone other than Trump? (Maybe DeSantis too) There is not a single moment in this race I can't figure out why the GOP would rather sink to the bottom of the ocean with Trump rather than pick Haley. But my conscious is clear. I voted for Haley, I won't vote for Trump, and hopefully after this trainwreck election is over, the GOP will figure itself out.
Trump would have lost my vote over Haley, and I've been pretty on board with him, and Vance has far exceeded my expectations.

And look at this thread.. There are people who seem to be informed, in this thread even, and they got some weird semi-chubby over this clown…. I don’t get it.

Lastly if you don't understand Trump appeal by now, it's just because you don't want to.
 
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Vance as VP. Nikki Haley would've been absolutely crushing this, and it makes me sad.

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You on one there? Maybe switch to beer and start tapering so you don't get the DTs. :flipoff2:
 
Looking into RFK (some months ago) made me "oh my god" out loud, which is a tall feat given modern politics. In the shadow of unrelenting momentum that the democrats have right now, trying to steal headlines by announcing the onboarding of a lunatic conspiracy theorist makes me think Trump wants to lose this. Especially after selecting Vance as VP. Nikki Haley would've been absolutely crushing this, and it makes me sad. But I think the GOP needs to truly self-destruct, and hopefully a more modern and intellectual party will emerge from its ashes.

You heard it here first, Trump is on track not just to lose, but on track to getting decimated. But November is a long way away, and it was just a few weeks ago I thought Trump was on his way to a landslide win. Both parties are (were) running candidates that were abysmal, and the dems just figured out how to get someone with a functioning brain. Apparently that's what it takes to win.

Would people be rushing to the polls to pull the level for Kamala/Walz if the opponent was anyone other than Trump? (Maybe DeSantis too) There is not a single moment in this race I can't figure out why the GOP would rather sink to the bottom of the ocean with Trump rather than pick Haley. But my conscious is clear. I voted for Haley, I won't vote for Trump, and hopefully after this trainwreck election is over, the GOP will figure itself out.
So you think the GOP needs to self-destruct leaving us at the mercy of the Democrats? Really? If they get THAT much control, you really think the GOP would ever be allowed to return?

That my friend is the blood bath this country would face.
 
My old boss used to work for her when she was in San Fran! I have some interesting anecdotes about her. But no, I don’t plan on voting for her. She doesn’t need my vote from the looks of things. I’m going to write in for my bottom B Haley.

We’ll see how it goes!
 
My old boss used to work for her when she was in San Fran! I have some interesting anecdotes about her. But no, I don’t plan on voting for her. She doesn’t need my vote from the looks of things. I’m going to write in for my bottom B Haley.

We’ll see how it goes!
You didn't deny the blowjob allegations. Noted.
 
Looking into RFK (some months ago) made me "oh my god" out loud, which is a tall feat given modern politics. In the shadow of unrelenting momentum that the democrats have right now, trying to steal headlines by announcing the onboarding of a lunatic conspiracy theorist makes me think Trump wants to lose this. Especially after selecting Vance as VP. Nikki Haley would've been absolutely crushing this, and it makes me sad. But I think the GOP needs to truly self-destruct, and hopefully a more modern and intellectual party will emerge from its ashes.

You heard it here first, Trump is on track not just to lose, but on track to getting decimated. But November is a long way away, and it was just a few weeks ago I thought Trump was on his way to a landslide win. Both parties are (were) running candidates that were abysmal, and the dems just figured out how to get someone with a functioning brain. Apparently that's what it takes to win.

Would people be rushing to the polls to pull the level for Kamala/Walz if the opponent was anyone other than Trump? (Maybe DeSantis too) There is not a single moment in this race I can't figure out why the GOP would rather sink to the bottom of the ocean with Trump rather than pick Haley. But my conscious is clear. I voted for Haley, I won't vote for Trump, and hopefully after this trainwreck election is over, the GOP will figure itself out.

Amazing. It really is amazing how someone can be brainwashed by the media. Trumps not perfect, but he’s so far ahead of everybody in both parties and people still believe non sense. He was already in office and all the stuff they said didn’t happen. If he gets in this time, what do you think is going to happen now?

He won the primaries. Haley didn't.

I'm not convinced Trump will lose but he definitely won't be the declared winner.

Trump will definitely win in a landslide just like last time. But yes, he could be declared a loser just like last time.
 
DJT could receive zero votes in Kommieland and it wouldn't mean shit electorally
 
Looking into RFK (some months ago) made me "oh my god" out loud, which is a tall feat given modern politics. In the shadow of unrelenting momentum that the democrats have right now, trying to steal headlines by announcing the onboarding of a lunatic conspiracy theorist makes me think Trump wants to lose this. Especially after selecting Vance as VP. Nikki Haley would've been absolutely crushing this, and it makes me sad. But I think the GOP needs to truly self-destruct, and hopefully a more modern and intellectual party will emerge from its ashes.

You heard it here first, Trump is on track not just to lose, but on track to getting decimated. But November is a long way away, and it was just a few weeks ago I thought Trump was on his way to a landslide win. Both parties are (were) running candidates that were abysmal, and the dems just figured out how to get someone with a functioning brain. Apparently that's what it takes to win.

Would people be rushing to the polls to pull the level for Kamala/Walz if the opponent was anyone other than Trump? (Maybe DeSantis too) There is not a single moment in this race I can't figure out why the GOP would rather sink to the bottom of the ocean with Trump rather than pick Haley. But my conscious is clear. I voted for Haley, I won't vote for Trump, and hopefully after this trainwreck election is over, the GOP will figure itself out.
I thought about this post for a minute. It made me wonder how we all arrive at different political points but still are confined within the same party. I’m curious what “conspiracy theories” RFK embraces? Where you start to lose me is at the “more modern and intellectual” bit and then you totally lose me at the praise of Haley. If you want a RINO just go full blue. Why Haley over Tulsi?

I know you’re a lawyer which means you’re more educated than I am and I can only assume in a higher income bracket. I wonder if that makes you out of touch with what’s going on with those below you. The current state of things probably doesn’t effect you as much as it does me and the people I know. A lot of us can feel the prosperity being taken from our future. It seems you think you’re voting for a return to “normal” while some of us are voting to exist without being destroyed by an ever rising cost of living and taxes.
 
Looking into RFK (some months ago) made me "oh my god" out loud, which is a tall feat given modern politics. In the shadow of unrelenting momentum that the democrats have right now, trying to steal headlines by announcing the onboarding of a lunatic conspiracy theorist makes me think Trump wants to lose this. Especially after selecting Vance as VP. Nikki Haley would've been absolutely crushing this, and it makes me sad. But I think the GOP needs to truly self-destruct, and hopefully a more modern and intellectual party will emerge from its ashes.

You heard it here first, Trump is on track not just to lose, but on track to getting decimated. But November is a long way away, and it was just a few weeks ago I thought Trump was on his way to a landslide win. Both parties are (were) running candidates that were abysmal, and the dems just figured out how to get someone with a functioning brain. Apparently that's what it takes to win.

Would people be rushing to the polls to pull the level for Kamala/Walz if the opponent was anyone other than Trump? (Maybe DeSantis too) There is not a single moment in this race I can't figure out why the GOP would rather sink to the bottom of the ocean with Trump rather than pick Haley. But my conscious is clear. I voted for Haley, I won't vote for Trump, and hopefully after this trainwreck election is over, the GOP will figure itself out.
Legit questions

1. What are these "lunatic conspiracy theories" that made you pee your pants that RFK espouses? I have heard him talk about vaccines (not Covid) and what I took from what he was saying is that kids didn't have issues such as autism, add, asthma, etc. 40 years ago. Maybe they were undiagnosed but is it possible that mass vaccines have cause this in some kids? Why not look into it and study it and try to determine if that MAY be the case. His data that I saw of the surge in "conditions" and mass vaccines lines up. RFK even stated he has had all the vaccines as have his children other than Covid.
Are these what you are talking about or something else?



2. Why would Haley be killing it? She is a globalist, supports Ukraine "as long as it takes" whatever the fuck that means, globalist and BFF of the MIC. She ran against nobody in Nevada and lost. Literally lost to fucking nobody. As the great poet in Friday said, "How the fuck you get fired on your day off?" She didn't do well and lost in her own state where the people knew her best. Now I will admit, if I look at my ballot and it's Harris v Haley, I will go for Haley but I would have to go home and shower afterwards.



3. People that are going to "rush to the polls" would do so if they put Kermit and Piggy up after being bombarded with 24/7 suckoff media coverage of them and doing nothing but pushing a positive narrative and hiding or masking anything that isn't popular such as transing kids, the military thing with Walz, price fixing, etc. Kamala has many statements on video that would be terrible for her but unless you are digging through X or some obscure site, you aren't going to see them.



4. Trump won the primary. It wasn't close. I liked DeSantis myself and would have preferred him but Trump is the person chosen by voters in this thing called democracy where my vote just about never counts in California. I will support Trump and I would over any democrat out there that I know of at least. So the question, Trump has been the nominee 3 straight times. How is that not the GOP "figuring it out"? Maybe not the party people or the Uniparty members, but the people have through their primary votes, have they not? Which is more important in the process of "figuring it out"? Millions of people or Mitch McConnell?
 
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I thought about this post for a minute. It made me wonder how we all arrive at different political points but still are confined within the same party. I’m curious what “conspiracy theories” RFK embraces? Where you start to lose me is at the “more modern and intellectual” bit and then you totally lose me at the praise of Haley. If you want a RINO just go full blue. Why Haley over Tulsi?

I know you’re a lawyer which means you’re more educated than I am and I can only assume in a higher income bracket. I wonder if that makes you out of touch with what’s going on with those below you. The current state of things probably doesn’t effect you as much as it does me and the people I know. A lot of us can feel the prosperity being taken from our future. It seems you think you’re voting for a return to “normal” while some of us are voting to exist without being destroyed by an ever rising cost of living and taxes.

First, I appreciate the comments. It's refreshing to have an actual query rather than just make a dick sucking jab, or similar. So I'll take some time and try and explain as best I can:

The state of things affects us all equally. I have a salary commensurate with my title and station, but I'm not wealthy. If I doubled or tripled my salary I would simply be somewhat better off, but still not wealthy. My grocery prices sting for me, I don't have a fleet of new cars because they're insanely priced, etc. I live in a 1400 square foot home. To some of you that's a shoe closet. People don't cast votes on singular issues, as it can be many things. My views on what I think a country should implement are quite varied, and nothing I have aligns well with a single party. So I am not undecided, I consider myself a moderate and vote for whoever is proposing the policy positions I agree with the most.

There are many, many, many things in the democrat party platform I don't agree with. Crime and punishment is an easy example, but there are many more. I HATE the squad. Hate them. I hate the anti-Israel crowd. I can go on and on. But peeking behind the GOP door, they elect people like MTG, Trump, DeSantis, George Santos, and others that I find reprehensible. Then there's the issues: Vaccines don't cause autism. Climate change is real. The Covid vaccine doesn't kill people. I hate Russia and I support Ukraine. I can go on. But for the GOP, openly rejecting established science, especially with an open embrace of religion, is an anti-intellectual line I can't cross.

The modern GOP is a safe harbor for things that simply aren't true, and it's become a core tenet of the current party.

Trump doesn't have support of college educated people. Why? It isn't because college educated people all graduate as democrats. It's because Trump, MTG, etc say stupid things. That's all there is to it. If you watch the last debate, Biden train wrecks. But Trump can't answer any question coherently, and lies about pretty much everything.

That's why I like Haley. Despite her flaws, she at least would act the part of a president. I would like to see her navigate the country forward. I would've also liked to see Mitt Romney have a go of it. RINOs, as you said. But we simply differ on what a republican should be. The GOP now seems to be MAGA or nothing. There is no room for anything else but Trump. I don't find him intelligent, or presidential. He isn't a fiscal conservative, certainly. I understand his appeal to many folks, but he has 0 appeal to me.

Based on the rubric I explained above, her positions are most similar to mine, and I like her temperament and demeanor. So I chose her. There is a reason she appealed to so many Democrats, which is important. I could be wrong and Trump will win, time will tell. But it certain seems that a more inclusive party would've been ideal, and Haley would've offered that to some degree.

Just my .02. :beer:
 
So you think the GOP needs to self-destruct leaving us at the mercy of the Democrats? Really? If they get THAT much control, you really think the GOP would ever be allowed to return?

That my friend is the blood bath this country would face.
one thing about the US is that if ANYONE gets 'too popular' they get struck down. We refight the revolutionary war all the time. Anyone who gets too popular gets crushed. So, regardless of what happens in november the winner will beon the chopping block and the loser has some time to rethink who they are, repackage and become the underdog..... who we love.
 
First, I appreciate the comments. It's refreshing to have an actual query rather than just make a dick sucking jab, or similar. So I'll take some time and try and explain as best I can:

The state of things affects us all equally. I have a salary commensurate with my title and station, but I'm not wealthy. If I doubled or tripled my salary I would simply be somewhat better off, but still not wealthy. My grocery prices sting for me, I don't have a fleet of new cars because they're insanely priced, etc. I live in a 1400 square foot home. To some of you that's a shoe closet. People don't cast votes on singular issues, as it can be many things. My views on what I think a country should implement are quite varied, and nothing I have aligns well with a single party. So I am not undecided, I consider myself a moderate and vote for whoever is proposing the policy positions I agree with the most.

There are many, many, many things in the democrat party platform I don't agree with. Crime and punishment is an easy example, but there are many more. I HATE the squad. Hate them. I hate the anti-Israel crowd. I can go on and on. But peeking behind the GOP door, they elect people like MTG, Trump, DeSantis, George Santos, and others that I find reprehensible. Then there's the issues: Vaccines don't cause autism. Climate change is real. The Covid vaccine doesn't kill people. I hate Russia and I support Ukraine. I can go on. But for the GOP, openly rejecting established science, especially with an open embrace of religion, is an anti-intellectual line I can't cross.

The modern GOP is a safe harbor for things that simply aren't true, and it's become a core tenet of the current party.

Trump doesn't have support of college educated people. Why? It isn't because college educated people all graduate as democrats. It's because Trump, MTG, etc say stupid things. That's all there is to it. If you watch the last debate, Biden train wrecks. But Trump can't answer any question coherently, and lies about pretty much everything.

That's why I like Haley. Despite her flaws, she at least would act the part of a president. I would like to see her navigate the country forward. I would've also liked to see Mitt Romney have a go of it. RINOs, as you said. But we simply differ on what a republican should be. The GOP now seems to be MAGA or nothing. There is no room for anything else but Trump. I don't find him intelligent, or presidential. He isn't a fiscal conservative, certainly. I understand his appeal to many folks, but he has 0 appeal to me.

Based on the rubric I explained above, her positions are most similar to mine, and I like her temperament and demeanor. So I chose her. There is a reason she appealed to so many Democrats, which is important. I could be wrong and Trump will win, time will tell. But it certain seems that a more inclusive party would've been ideal, and Haley would've offered that to some degree.

Just my .02. :beer:

I think you need to take a step back. The Supreme Court alone is reason enough to hold your nose and vote Trump. The individual politicians will come and go, but things like Supreme Court appointments will reach far into the future.

The idea the republicans don't care about the environment is simply false. Democrat mismanagement of our forests has led to the extreme wildfires we've been seeing, destroyed our fisheries, denied the people access to OUR land, and so much more. We care about our public lands and want them pristine for our future generations to USE.

And the regarding vaccines, some of us have experienced first hand the effects of vaccines. It's clear as day that we've been lied to, information and people suppressed. The studies are absolutely influenced by those providing the funding. The whole system cannot be trusted. Our government agencies have been severely corrupted at the top.

When it comes to war that the democrats so desperately want, it's by and large the blood of conservatives that will be shed. All the while they couldn't care less about Maui. Like him or not, Trump has a proven record of being anti war.

For every blowhard retarded MAGA as you see them, there's an equally whacko leftie. Which whackos are doing the most damage to our country?

As much as we all hate the two party system, adding a third party will come with its own problems. Look at the mess that is Britain politics.

The divide is so wide right now, there can be no independents, anyone that claims to be is lying or retarded. It's time to pick a side. Until some sanity is restored, the choice should be quite clear.
 
I think you need to take a step back. The Supreme Court alone is reason enough to hold your nose and vote Trump. The individual politicians will come and go, but things like Supreme Court appointments will reach far into the future.

The idea the republicans don't care about the environment is simply false. Democrat mismanagement of our forests has led to the extreme wildfires we've been seeing, destroyed our fisheries, denied the people access to OUR land, and so much more. We care about our public lands and want them pristine for our future generations to USE.

And the regarding vaccines, some of us have experienced first hand the effects of vaccines. It's clear as day that we've been lied to, information and people suppressed. The studies are absolutely influenced by those providing the funding. The whole system cannot be trusted. Our government agencies have been severely corrupted at the top.

When it comes to war that the democrats so desperately want, it's by and large the blood of conservatives that will be shed. All the while they couldn't care less about Maui. Like him or not, Trump has a proven record of being anti war.

For every blowhard retarded MAGA as you see them, there's an equally whacko leftie. Which whackos are doing the most damage to our country?

As much as we all hate the two party system, adding a third party will come with its own problems. Look at the mess that is Britain politics.

The divide is so wide right now, there can be no independents, anyone that claims to be is lying or retarded. It's time to pick a side. Until some sanity is restored, the choice should be quite clear.

The problems with forest management know no party. Read the history of how the US has managed the forest from the time we got here and it is ALL mistakes. It is ALL folly and foolishness. On both sides. The problems in our forests aren't 40 or 50 years of mistakes, it is in the hundreds of years. Neither side can claim any ability in managing the environment. The same holds true about the fisheries, the management of our waterways etc. Absolute ignorance on both sides... When I'm being charitable, I try to believe it was ignorance and the lack of information, but, I don't think that was why BOTH sides failed.

When I was a kid in the tahoe area, my dad, a veteran of korea, and an FDR democrat took us on a four wheeling trip co sponsored by the NRA and the Sierra Club. I'm not kidding. Things used to be very different. I took my hunter's safety class at my elementary school. This last part I put in, just to try and say, it iis possible that we can come together and not agree on some things... but, recognize each other as decent people, good people...

We need to figure out our next steps with our environment or it will continue to wither. It needs to be smart people thinking broadly not thinking along party lines or about 'winning'.
 
We need to figure out our next steps with our environment or it will continue to wither. It needs to be smart people thinking broadly not thinking along party lines or about 'winning'.
Good fucking luck. Literally everything gets politicized these days in the absolutely dumbest party line ways.
 
The Covid vaccine doesn't kill people.

I wish you'd explain that to my crazy ass department manager at work. You'd need a ouija board because he's dead. Dropped in the parking lot of the Dr. office 15mins after getting the Johnson & Johnson covid vaxx... threw a blood clot to his brain and then spent the next couple months being kept alive via computer before the family decided to unplug him.

I'm sure it was just like all the other people that got immediate blood clots less than 30mins after getting the J&J... just a coincidence.

(I'm not an anti-vaxxer but uh....)
 
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