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Riots tonight? NC edition

I guess since they took down the statues that means slavery never happened everyone can go home

No other factors should be considered in a gun/knife fight. cops should maintain 21.0000000001 feet to maintain superior advantage against a guy with a knife. Once the magic 21 feet mark is broken all bets off.
 
bigun said:
You have much experience? I am betting not one shot to the head is great when your a sniper up to a mile away up close it i=s center of mass till he quits moving. What is fucked up if you watch the video is when they try to render aid the fucking nighbors all run in and start to fight the cops where were thay when the mom was trying to keep her sone from commiting suicide by cop?
God I love you fucking internet warriors get out there on the streets, and show us, don't bang away on a keyboard and tell me what you will do Rambo
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Wow tough guy, you see my stir the pot emoji? I guess it worked on your dumb ass:rolleyes:
 
Ugly pumpkin said:
So...

Is the city burning yet?
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Not yet! :flipoff2:

There is a second protest supposed to start at 7:30 and a Curfew at 10:00, which the radio had earlier said started at 8:00... SO who knows.

I'll be keeping my ears open and hope no one gets too crazy. I've got friends that will be working downtown and would like to see them uninjured, and the town less smashed than less time.
 
Johann said:
Not yet! :flipoff2:

There is a second protest supposed to start at 7:30 and a Curfew at 10:00, which the radio had earlier said started at 8:00... SO who knows.

I'll be keeping my ears open and hope no one gets too crazy. I've got friends that will be working downtown and would like to see them uninjured, and the town less smashed than less time.
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See my post above. :flipoff2:
 
Johann said:
Not yet! :flipoff2:

There is a second protest supposed to start at 7:30 and a Curfew at 10:00, which the radio had earlier said started at 8:00... SO who knows.

I'll be keeping my ears open and hope no one gets too crazy. I've got friends that will be working downtown and would like to see them uninjured, and the town less smashed than less time.
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everything work out well? i.e. no burning down the city
 
Provience said:
everything work out well? i.e. no burning down the city
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Deuce has it right. The mischief makers realized that the cops were not going to play along this time and they called off their actions, which like him have me shaking my head on their motivations.

Several of the streets they smashed last time were blocked and defended. Most of the open glass was boarded up too. Sad that it took 4 riots for them to figure out how to prevent them.
 
Paul3 said:
Should have left it at that.
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You been there? You know what to do when a guy with a knife is coming at you and your partner based on your training? I’d love to hear what the correct purse of action is. I’m sure it’s ‘use lethal force until the threat stops.’
 
RunningProblem said:
You been there? You know what to do when a guy with a knife is coming at you and your partner based on your training? I’d love to hear what the correct purse of action is. I’m sure it’s ‘use lethal force until the threat stops.’
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i brought up a similar question regarding this topic to a bunch of UK peoples, one of them dismissed knife violence as "youth against youth and no real bother" essentially, and the other posted a youtube video of what a "proper" UK unarmed force does with a knifed man.

5 or 6 beat cops had clubs and generally surrounded the guy, sort of moving in and out to keep him distracted but in a small circle, they stayed about 10-15' back the whole time. if he appeared to move too far or fast, somebody behind would tap him on the head with a club. while they kept him 'contained', they were waiting on others to show up with riot shields. After about 5 minutes, another 5 or so cops showed up with the shields and moved in from the gaps, essentially boxing in and smothering the knifed man to the ground with the shields, once on the ground and splayed, he was manipulated and cuffed.

works out well if you have enough people i suppose. can't say i or they would want to try the same thing with only 2 cops
 
Why DIDN'T they use a STUN GUN!?!?!

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article246862897.html

this occured on New Years day, lethal cop shooting in Grass Valley CA, recent update is that the officer involved was Cleared of wrongdoing.

Nevada County Sheriff’s deputies Brandon Tripp and Taylor King and Grass Valley police detective Brian Hooper collectively fired 13 bullets at Strickland after he refused to drop the air rifle, which he had said was fake, and two attempts to incapacitate him with a stun gun. Two other officers at the scene did not fire their weapons.

Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article246862897.html#storylink=cpy
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Provience said:
i brought up a similar question regarding this topic to a bunch of UK peoples, one of them dismissed knife violence as "youth against youth and no real bother" essentially, and the other posted a youtube video of what a "proper" UK unarmed force does with a knifed man.

5 or 6 beat cops had clubs and generally surrounded the guy, sort of moving in and out to keep him distracted but in a small circle, they stayed about 10-15' back the whole time. if he appeared to move too far or fast, somebody behind would tap him on the head with a club. while they kept him 'contained', they were waiting on others to show up with riot shields. After about 5 minutes, another 5 or so cops showed up with the shields and moved in from the gaps, essentially boxing in and smothering the knifed man to the ground with the shields, once on the ground and splayed, he was manipulated and cuffed.

works out well if you have enough people i suppose. can't say i or they would want to try the same thing with only 2 cops
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As a white male police officer during ‘defund the police’ times I’d HOPE the use of lethal force was AFTER at least one stab wound was made. You know. So they couldn’t say ‘didndonuffin’ and he could no longer be compared to white kids with AR15s being detained.
 
RunningProblem said:
As a white male police officer during ‘defund the police’ times I’d HOPE the use of lethal force was AFTER at least one stab wound was made. You know. So they couldn’t say ‘didndonuffin’ and he could no longer be compared to white kids with AR15s being detained.
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you want to be the lucky recipient of said stab wound?
 
ConwayMuddy said:
you want to be the lucky recipient of said stab wound?
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I would if it means I get to use my whiteprivilege and avoid any news channel saying I, or my partner, shot an innocent mentally unstable black guy in front of his family. Seems like a cheap scar to avoid being the next racist cop with protestors outside my house or following my kids to school and everyone in society remembering my name, but I’ve never been in their shoes so I can’t say for sure.
 
ConwayMuddy said:
Or you bleeding out in the middle of the street.
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Ambulance was on the way. They’d been called for the guy’s baby mama. I’ll take bleeding in the street over being front page news across the country both in print and electronically. Maybe my partner could call for assistance and stop the bleeding, or drive me to a hospital. Again, I’m not a cop, don’t pretend to be, and don’t know the circumstances. I can only look at it from the outside looking in.

two cops
no stun guns
one guy with a knife
ambulance already called to take a pregnant lady to the hospital

what would you do?
 
RunningProblem said:
You been there? ’
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Yep. Got cut.

RunningProblem said:
You know what to do when a guy with a knife is coming at you and your partner based on your training? I’d love to hear what the correct purse of action is. I’m sure it’s ‘use lethal force until the threat stops.’
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Never insinuated that I did. What I do know is that there are a thousand variables in any scenario that can completely change the outcome for any/all the participants. Armchair quarterback opinions are almost never worth their weight in turds and are worth even less in situations that may result in serious injury or loss of life. You may be able to talk a guy down, maybe you wait for a bunch of others to come to your rescue, hell maybe you think there's some hand to hand training that ensures you don't get sliced open or worse. You would have been wrong the day it happened to me.
 
RunningProblem said:
Again, I’m not a cop, don’t pretend to be, and don’t know the circumstances. I can only look at it from the outside looking in.
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Maybe I'm reading into it, but for a guy that claims not to know it sure does appear that you have picked a side.
 
Paul3 said:
Maybe I'm reading into it, but for a guy that claims not to know it sure does appear that you have picked a side.
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I want it to be clear I’m not a trained law enforcement officer. My side, if I’ve picked one, isnt really one that matters because I’m not a trained law enforcement officer out into the situation they were.
 
RunningProblem said:
I would if it means I get to use my whiteprivilege and avoid any news channel saying I, or my partner, shot an innocent mentally unstable black guy in front of his family. Seems like a cheap scar to avoid being the next racist cop with protestors outside my house or following my kids to school and everyone in society remembering my name, but I’ve never been in their shoes so I can’t say for sure.
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it flat won't matter. it's gone from "unarmed" to "only slightly armed" to "only had a gun" to "only shot at the cops a couple times" to "cops hunt black people"

it doesn't matter. years before trump, the guy in Texas who "wanted to kill cops, specifically white cops" at a blm protest is generally regarded as a hero
 
RunningProblem said:
I want it to be clear I’m not a trained law enforcement officer. My side, if I’ve picked one, isnt really one that matters because I’m not a trained law enforcement officer out into the situation they were.
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but as a resident, your opinion does matter. who pays the taxes and votes for the councils that support defund?
 
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