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So it the entire pipeline now useless that a section of it is bad? Just a dumb question.
 
Well it cant transfer anything if thats what you are asking.

Weather or not the whole thing has to be replaced or if a section can just be fixed is way above my paygrade.

See posts 39 and 40.
 
www.dailymail.co.uk

Russia says UK PM texted Blinken 'it's done' after Nord Stream

Russia has accused Britain and the U.S. of conspiring to blow up the Nord Stream gas pipes, claiming Liz Truss texted Antony Blinken after the explosion saying 'it's done.'
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Truss has already resigned. Darn. I am sure it is like our FBI. Resign, retire, or get fired then it is too late to be held accountable for any of your previous actions. Just ride off into the sunset........
 
nahmus said:
So it the entire pipeline now useless that a section of it is bad? Just a dumb question.
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I believe so.

It's my understanding that the pipeline is built at the surface and then layed continuously on the sea floor. I don't think there's any means yet devised to go down that deep and fix it.
 
87manche said:
I believe so.

It's my understanding that the pipeline is built at the surface and then layed continuously on the sea floor. I don't think there's any means yet devised to go down that deep and fix it.
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Interesting. @ 3:22 he says "we are entering from Russia into Europe, crossing many mine lines, so we didn't want to put any anchors on the seabed."
Possible a mine sank and blew the shit up?
 
Sceep said:
Interesting. @ 3:22 he says "we are entering from Russia into Europe, crossing many mine lines, so we didn't want to put any anchors on the seabed."
Possible a mine sank and blew the shit up?
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but what are the odds?
I'd also think that a mine would have some sort of pressure failsafe that if it sank to the bottom it wouldn't detonate. Maybe even not make it to the bottom.

count me in on someone blowed it up.
 
87manche said:
but what are the odds?
I'd also think that a mine would have some sort of pressure failsafe that if it sank to the bottom it wouldn't detonate. Maybe even not make it to the bottom.

count me in on someone blowed it up.
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I'm absolutely in the someone blowed it up camp. Just thought that if was odd that there are known mines in the area and no one has brought that up yet.
 
www.bizpacreview.com

Intel officials find no evidence Russia blew up Nord Stream Pipeline: Report

After world leaders blamed Russia for causing the explosions that largely disabled two key natural gas pipes in September, investigators now say they have yet to discover […]
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After world leaders blamed Russia for causing the explosions that largely disabled two key natural gas pipelines in September, investigators now say they have yet to discover conclusive evidence of a Russian sabotage operation, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.

Officials in the U.S. and Western countries, including German Economy Minister Robert Habeck and an adviser for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, initially accused Russia of seeking to “blackmail” the West into withdrawing support for Ukraine by restricting an important energy source to Europe via the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 liquid natural gas (LNG) pipelines as winter approached, the Post reported. However, many officials with knowledge of ongoing investigations privately told the Post they now doubt Russia’s complicity in the attacks.


“There is no evidence at this point that Russia was behind the sabotage,” a European official, one of 23 diplomatic and intelligence officials across nine countries interviewed within recent weeks, told the Post.

Some officials said it wouldn’t make sense for Russia to neutralize infrastructure it needs to support revenue-generating LNG exports, the Post reported. Others said that while they see Russia as a likely perpetrator, a paucity of positive evidence may render the task of attributing the attack impossible.

“The rationale that it was Russia [that attacked the pipelines] never made sense to me,” one Western European official told the Post, questioning why Russia would voluntarily relinquish a lever of economic control over Europe.

Analysts and seismologists, working with data collected around the time of the damage and explosive residue collected from the bottom of the Baltic Sea, have definitively attributed four leaks to three explosions occurring on Sept. 26, the Post reported. There is also good reason to believe the explosions were not the result of an accident; a German government official told the outlet evidence suggests the perpetrator planted explosive material somewhere on the pipelines’ structure.


“Forensics on an investigation like this are going to be exceedingly difficult,” a senior State Department official told the Post.

Members of the intelligence community who focus on intercepting communications of Russian government and military actors have not discovered any messages hinting at sabotage plans, the Post reported.

“We know that this amount of explosives has to be a state-level actor,” Finnish Foreign Minister Pekka Haavisto told the Post earlier in December. “It’s not just a single fisherman who decides to put the bomb there.”

The damaged parts of the pipelines run through relatively shallow waters within the Exclusive Economic Zones of Sweden and Denmark, with one explosion occurring near the Danish island of Bornholm and two more to the island’s northeast nearly 12 hours later, the Post reported. An actor may have used marine drones or surface vessels to carry out the operation, meaning the list of possible suspects is not limited to countries possessing manned submarines or sophisticated underwater explosive techniques.

Moscow denied responsibility for the attacks. Instead, it has blamed the United Kingdom’s navy, a claim the U.K. rejected, according to Reuters.

“It appears nobody in the European Union is going to objectively investigate” the explosions, Russian Foreign Ministry Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday, Reuters reported.
 
ExWrench said:
Gulf of Tonkin reboot :flipoff2:
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Remember the Maine, years latter it came out that it's cargo probably blew up on it's own, But Hearst needed to sell newspapers, next thing you know we are in a war with Spain, and Teddy is riding hell bent in Cuba

I don't understand why the 'Elites" are so hell bent on another World War! :confused:
 
bigun said:
I don't understand why the 'Elites" are so hell bent on another World War! :confused:
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Really?????

MONEY
POWER
POLITICAL INFLUENCE


The war machine is really the main thing Democrats & Republicans whole heartedly agree on.

Edit: don’t get me wrong. I truly believe that the Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin, I’m just saying, they agree most on international warfare.
 
bigun said:
Remember the Maine, years latter it came out that it's cargo probably blew up on it's own, But Hearst needed to sell newspapers, next thing you know we are in a war with Spain, and Teddy is riding hell bent in Cuba

I don't understand why the 'Elites" are so hell bent on another World War! :confused:
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Quoted to say the same as below...

grumpy356 said:
Really?????

MONEY
POWER
POLITICAL INFLUENCE


The war machine is really the main thing Democrats & Republicans whole heartedly agree on.

Edit: don’t get me wrong. I truly believe that the Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin, I’m just saying, they agree most on international warfare.
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Nothing makes you more money and gives you more control than war, especially when you play both sides.
 
Tech Tim said:
Nothing makes you more money and gives you more control than war, especially when you play both sides.
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Yep, declare "war" on something & get away with bullshit "because war".

Look at how much excess funding and power the ruling class have been able to get from
  • Actual military conflicts (i.e., "real" war (even if staged))
  • The War on Drugs®
  • The War on Terror®
  • The War on (insert pet cause here)®
Declaring war on something guaran-gawwdayum-tees rules can be skirted and funding is freer :frown:
 
grumpy356 said:
Really?????

MONEY
POWER
POLITICAL INFLUENCE


The war machine is really the main thing Democrats & Republicans whole heartedly agree on.

Edit: don’t get me wrong. I truly believe that the Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin, I’m just saying, they agree most on international warfare.
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Actually I was being facetious;
George Washington warned us to avoid being friends with any nation to avoid foreign entanglements, and Eishanhower warned us of the military - industrial complex but we never listened
 
bigun said:
Actually I was being facetious;
George Washington warned us to avoid being friends with any nation to avoid foreign entanglements, and Eishanhower warned us of the military - industrial complex but we never listened
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Someone should go through the old site and find what people here were saying about the Iraq war. :stirthepot:
 
Regarding the fix in deep water . .. . . recall the Deepwater Horizon. That was a lot deeper and active at the time of repair. They figured it out. I dont think the Rooskies have the tech and the EU/USA doesn't have the desire. So we drill more here.
 
I was pretty shocked that this all happened at <250’. I’m sure it was just more media cover when they were telling us it was super deep where it would be a technical achievement to even attack the thing.
 
OHV Wildcat said:
I was pretty shocked that this all happened at <250’. I’m sure it was just more media cover when they were telling us it was super deep where it would be a technical achievement to even attack the thing.
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Ametuer divers get down to 250ft. 100ft easy on compressed air alone. Ifthey had underwzter suport that childs play easy.
 
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