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New Ford Duallys are 6+ months out?

JR4X said:
Yes. And it only works at 18 mph and down. You know how it does it? By applying the brakes for you. So it’s riding the brakes with extra steps. The main reason I want the truck to hold itself back is to not trash the brakes every 5 10 or 11 thousand miles. I use it that down hill assist every day to get down the descents I have to go down. I used to pride myself on getting over 100K miles on the factory brake pads & rotors. In the last 5 years 25K is the best I’ve got on my work truck’s brakes. They always seem to go metal to metal on a holiday, or a long muddy weekend
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Yeah that's pretty lame.
 
1oddtech said:
And regarding gearing I've said it before 4.61 first gear is useless with 4.30 gears and 225/70R19.5 tires with the 6.7 not towing
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To counter point myself. I wouldn't want anything taller than the 4.88s and 4:1 1st in my 6.7 F550 work truck towing all the time.
 
JR4X said:
Looks like a slug lite. From what pics show It looks like it’s all the same parts of the selectable hub just assembled with a selector knob that won’t turn and just holds the two hub gears together all the time
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No vacuum actuation?
 
RPS1030 said:
No vacuum actuation?
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I can’t tell. Haven’t had one in my hand. I don’t think it’s just vacuum actuated. I think it’s a pseudo drive slug by keeping the two pieces engaged at all times so the driver doesn’t have to walk around to passengers side to lock one in.

The vacuum actuated hubs are the first and usually only thing I have fail before 100k miles on one of these things.
 
JR4X said:
I can’t tell. Haven’t had one in my hand. I don’t think it’s just vacuum actuated. I think it’s a pseudo drive slug by keeping the two pieces engaged at all times so the driver doesn’t have to walk around to passengers side to lock one in.

The vacuum actuated hubs are the first and usually only thing I have fail before 100k miles on one of these things.
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What usually fails?
 
JR4X said:
Advance Auto parts is legitimately one of the worst, least intuitive, piece of shit sites on the entire internet. FYI. F that company, it’s like they are trying NOT to sell parts.
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Their back end software shit is beyond fucked. Shit is one price online, another price in store, rings up for a 3rd price.

Ask your parts guy, you can probably get a lot of really good shit real cheap if you make friends with your parts guy. The manager at the on near me was talking about $20 OEM replacement cats and $10 trans rebuild kits because the system was stacking discounts because they were clearance, do not restock etc, etc.

I was in there for something dumb and cheap, thermostat housing gasket maybe. Was supposed to be $20ish or maybe $50is, rang up to $5, $10 or $20, something like that.

Edit: Subaru front wheel bearing (so not an odd part that they're no longer gonna sell) was it.
 
Levigarrett76 said:
What usually fails?
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I thought we’ve discussed this one already :confused: What I’ve been having issues with is the selectable hubs first. Then unit bearings. Need an entire front axle rebuild by about 110K miles which is usually when I need the second set of selectable hubs and new unit bearings for the second time. Brakes every 25K if I’m lucky. Complete Leaf spring packs replaced twice in 150K.

I’m breaking the Warn selectable hubs with tire chains on 285/70/17’s and open diff. It’s the guide cage regardless of if it’s plastic or the cast aluminum. I’ve stripped the splines out of a side gear. Worn the splines completely off the stub shaft. Worn the outer lip off 3 of the 4 steel wheels.
 
JR4X said:
I thought we’ve discussed this one already :confused: What I’ve been having issues with is the selectable hubs first. Then unit bearings. Need an entire front axle rebuild by about 110K miles which is usually when I need the second set of selectable hubs and new unit bearings for the second time. Brakes every 25K if I’m lucky. Complete Leaf spring packs replaced twice in 150K.

I’m breaking the Warn selectable hubs with tire chains on 285/70/17’s and open diff. It’s the guide cage regardless of if it’s plastic or the cast aluminum. I’ve stripped the splines out of a side gear. Worn the splines completely off the stub shaft. Worn the outer lip off 3 of the 4 steel wheels.
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Your right, I remember now. Ill just go sit in the corner with dunce hat on:beer:
 
Levigarrett76 said:
Your right, I remember now. Ill just go sit in the corner with dunce hat on:beer:
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No dunce hat necessary :beer:

It’s worth mentioning here, that it is my opinion and experience that Ford changed the quality of parts after the superduty went aluminum cab. I was not having these issues in the 05 to 16 trucks. The 17 ups, the side gears inside the diff look completely different than the older ones.
 
JR4X said:
No dunce hat necessary :beer:

It’s worth mentioning here, that it is my opinion and experience that Ford changed the quality of parts after the superduty went aluminum cab. I was not having these issues in the 05 to 16 trucks. The 17 ups, the side gears inside the diff look completely different than the older ones.
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Thats the "how can we make these cheaper and maximize our profits" move that all manufacturers seem to be going with these days. Quality < Profits
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Thats the "how can we make these cheaper and maximize our profits" move that all manufacturers seem to be going with these days. Quality < Profits
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Decades of regulation has driven up cost across the board and demand is somewhat elastic and the market is shrinking so now they're trying to make it up on margin, they kind of need to since every vehicle has thousands of dollars in compliance tech in it that nobody actually wants to buy. Give it a few years and base trim shit will probably be for fleet buyers only.
 
Take this for what you will, I have a patient that works for Dana in the corporate aspect. And has for 20+ years (may be retired as of recent, don’t remember). But she said that Dana has been putting cheaper and cheaper parts in because the manufacturers are wanting a price point that is unobtainable with any quality parts. Not that this is big news but she did confirm they are getting worse.

I wanted to see if she had some NOS hidden supplies somewhere for a good price 😬
 
arse_sidewards said:
Decades of regulation has driven up cost across the board and demand is somewhat elastic and the market is shrinking so now they're trying to make it up on margin, they kind of need to since every vehicle has thousands of dollars in compliance tech in it that nobody actually wants to buy. Give it a few years and base trim shit will probably be for fleet buyers only.
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My new poverty model XL is linked to ford via satellite. They flash my truck remotely now and I have no way to stop it. You get in it one morning and the vehicle control screen makes you acknowledge the update before you can even start the truck.

I am grouchy about it this week because in the settings I had it to where it didn’t lock the doors or the tailgate when I put it in gear. They updated it for me sitting in my driveway. Now the doors and tailgate lock the second you put it in drive. And the settings in the dash to disable that feature is gone. It’s a blank slot now where you would go to change anything about the door locks.
 
JR4X said:
My new poverty model XL is linked to ford via satellite. They flash my truck remotely now and I have no way to stop it. You get in it one morning and the vehicle control screen makes you acknowledge the update before you can even start the truck.

I am grouchy about it this week because in the settings I had it to where it didn’t lock the doors or the tailgate when I put it in gear. They updated it for me sitting in my driveway. Now the doors and tailgate lock the second you put it in drive. And the settings in the dash to disable that feature is gone. It’s a blank slot now where you would go to change anything about the door locks.
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That would piss me off, that's changed in the first few minutes I get into a truck.
 
JR4X said:
My new poverty model XL is linked to ford via satellite. They flash my truck remotely now and I have no way to stop it. You get in it one morning and the vehicle control screen makes you acknowledge the update before you can even start the truck.
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I'm aware. I worked on tangentially related supporting software for that capability (of which I know GM was a customer, IDK about Ford) back in like 2016 :laughing:
 
JR4X said:
My new poverty model XL is linked to ford via satellite. They flash my truck remotely now and I have no way to stop it. You get in it one morning and the vehicle control screen makes you acknowledge the update before you can even start the truck.

I am grouchy about it this week because in the settings I had it to where it didn’t lock the doors or the tailgate when I put it in gear. They updated it for me sitting in my driveway. Now the doors and tailgate lock the second you put it in drive. And the settings in the dash to disable that feature is gone. It’s a blank slot now where you would go to change anything about the door locks.
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My wifes 22' f150 does same stupid shit, it hasnt gotten that retard update yet. Is there a fucking fuse or harness to unplug somewhere?
 
JR4X said:
My new poverty model XL is linked to ford via satellite. They flash my truck remotely now and I have no way to stop it. You get in it one morning and the vehicle control screen makes you acknowledge the update before you can even start the truck.

I am grouchy about it this week because in the settings I had it to where it didn’t lock the doors or the tailgate when I put it in gear. They updated it for me sitting in my driveway. Now the doors and tailgate lock the second you put it in drive. And the settings in the dash to disable that feature is gone. It’s a blank slot now where you would go to change anything about the door locks.
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We had a new XL f-250 rental work truck for a few months. The tailgate lock thing was very very annoying.

Actually, the auto lock was fine. What is annoying is that they couldn't be bothered to make it unlock the tailgate when put into park.
 
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