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New Ford Duallys are 6+ months out?

CarterKraft said:
On our way back from Colorado my usual trip buddy was heading up to Red River NM and sends me this.
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This is in his '24 Denali Ultimate Duramax...
Not deleted or anything. 200mi range on a tank...
Vs my '22
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I only filled up 3 times at a half tank each, 25 ish gallons, used 4.5 gallons of DEF, gauge is on full still at home. He is using a tank of DEF to a tank of fuel:laughing:
And that $103k truck has a 36 gallon fuel tank 🤦 and a 5 gallon DEF tank where my truck has a 48 gallon fuel and 8 gallon DEF tank.


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Did you tell him he should have bought a Ford yet? :laughing:
 
Guys who's buys chevies are wierd. They weren't popular where I grew up, but are the majority diesel truck up here. I think it's mostly just "mUh chebby" guys who won't even look at anything else.

Blows me away how many people prefer them for snow plowing. :homer:
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Guys who's buys chevies are wierd. They weren't popular where I grew up, but are the majority diesel truck up here. I think it's mostly just "mUh chebby" guys who won't even look at anything else.

Blows me away how many people prefer them for snow plowing. :homer:
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My buddy has two gas 2500's and a Ford 550 dump truck. Plows with all 3. I will say, those chevies get beat on and keep coming back, but we've patched those fucking things together with some hack shit.

The Ford needed a couple sensors but his Mexicans haven't killed it yet and that bastard routinely drags a 10k trailer and however much shit in the dump bed.

In the winter the Ford is running almost constantly for 24hrs+ with the big blade and the big sander on it. Just keeps chugging along pushing shit.
 
He's always bought Chevies when he started his electric business, just keep buying them since.
This Denali was the first GMC.
I explained how I couldn't believe how "low" powered they are vs the Ford but I sort of forgot about the little fuel tank shit.
200 mile range would be really fuckin irritating. I stopped 3 times and I think I could have only stopped twice if id have ran further out, the old lady needed to feed the dogs etc so we stopped.
 
CarterKraft said:
He's always bought Chevies when he started his electric business, just keep buying them since.
This Denali was the first GMC.
I explained how I couldn't believe how "low" powered they are vs the Ford but I sort of forgot about the little fuel tank shit.
200 mile range would be really fuckin irritating. I stopped 3 times and I think I could have only stopped twice if id have ran further out, the old lady needed to feed the dogs etc so we stopped.
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I have the 46 or 48 gallon tank on my f350. It makes living with shitty gas mileage tolerable.
 
Standard cab 450 has the 24 gallon tank with 5 gallon DEF tank, which is how they get the 29 gallon total... I think.

Empty, I'm about 17.5mpg in mixed driving, hand calculated. It's gets a bit weird in the fall/winter with the cold temps. When I dragged the trailer to SDW, I got like 12.5 half empty going to get it... And it also got 12.5 with the 5500lns trailer hooked to it. Now, that's nothing at all for the truck, but I thought it was interesting.

When I pulled the race trailer, which is closer to 9k with the car and all the shit in it, it got 14.6 to and from the track at 65 in the heat of summer.
 
Gbkeith said:
I can go a long way with my 48 gallon tank. The 450 I ordered has a 40 and a 26.5 gallon tank so hopefully it’ll cover some ground.
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Any idea how that works? Fuel both tanks but it only draws from the front tank?

My old international was like that and several times some real weird shit happened on long trips where I'd not have much fuel to almost empty then instantly have a half tank.
I had planned on putting in a switch to disable the transfer pump so I could control when it transferred. Not sure it would matter just curious.

The real problem with the international dual tank was the front tank was on the passenger side and the rear tank was on the driver's side, and too far apart to fill without pulling forward even at a truck stop.
 
Gbkeith said:
I can go a long way with my 48 gallon tank. The 450 I ordered has a 40 and a 26.5 gallon tank so hopefully it’ll cover some ground.
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Didn’t know that was an option these days

Is it a C&c or pick up?

Guessing it has the pick up side tank and a C&c type tank? No spare tire?


I still like my 97s dual tanks, especially since the PO installed an aftermarket 40g front. I could swap in an OJ bronco ~38g rear also. With the 30+mpg the 12v should get, ID basically never have to stop:lmao:
 
CarterKraft said:
Any idea how that works? Fuel both tanks but it only draws from the front tank?
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YotaAtieToo said:
Didn’t know that was an option these days

Is it a C&c or pick up?
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C&C are available with a 40 gallon tank between the frame rails or a 26 gallon saddle tank. Or both. A wrecker or something where they’re cutting off the frame at the spring hangers would get just the 26. I have no idea how it works, but I assume there’s a switch and you can fill the two tanks up separately. I’ll post a picture when it shows up.
 
Gbkeith said:
C&C are available with a 40 gallon tank between the frame rails or a 26 gallon saddle tank. Or both. A wrecker or something where they’re cutting off the frame at the spring hangers would get just the 26. I have no idea how it works, but I assume there’s a switch and you can fill the two tanks up separately. I’ll post a picture when it shows up.
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Interesting, I haven't seen that yet. It would be nice in my work truck at 6mpg :laughing:

Also would be kinda cool if you could rig up one as a transfer tank to fill small equipment but keep bed space. Most mini's or skid steers are like 15-20g anyway.
 
Stopped by a couple of local Ford dealerships today. Plenty of F250s on the lots. Most are high trimmed packages with the 6.7, minus one XLT trimmed truck with the 7.3.
 
CarterKraft said:
On our way back from Colorado my usual trip buddy was heading up to Red River NM and sends me this.
1000014150.jpg

This is in his '24 Denali Ultimate Duramax...
Not deleted or anything. 200mi range on a tank...
Vs my '22
1000014141.jpg


I only filled up 3 times at a half tank each, 25 ish gallons, used 4.5 gallons of DEF, gauge is on full still at home. He is using a tank of DEF to a tank of fuel:laughing:
And that $103k truck has a 36 gallon fuel tank 🤦 and a 5 gallon DEF tank where my truck has a 48 gallon fuel and 8 gallon DEF tank.


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Did some research for him about locking out 9th gear and found this new truck has a 3.42 gear ratio:idea:
 
Gbkeith said:
I ordered one F250 and one F450 on Friday, July 12. Nobody I spoke with was confident the 450 would be built this year. Thursday the 18th Ford sent me scheduled build weeks of Aug 9 for the 450 and Aug 15 for the 250, which I was pretty happy with.
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Picked up the 450 today. 6 weeks from calling in the order to picking it up from the dealer. 250 is supposed to get in next week.
 
I reread the post about the Denali duramax.

What's funny is new duramax guys are the new Cummings guys. I hear 25 mpg shit :homer:

Towing huge trailers, none of them seem great. The mpg in my 16 is not impressive with light loads and is just what it is with heavy loads.

But 1 tank of Def per tank of fuel? Holy fuck, ID drive that thing through the showroom. My work truck is always towing heavy and I have only put Def in it a hand full of times in the 30k miles I've put on it. I'm guessing maybe 5-7k miles? Every tank would drive me insane, especially at 6 mpg
 
YotaAtieToo said:
I reread the post about the Denali duramax.

What's funny is new duramax guys are the new Cummings guys. I hear 25 mpg shit :homer:

Towing huge trailers, none of them seem great. The mpg in my 16 is not impressive with light loads and is just what it is with heavy loads.

But 1 tank of Def per tank of fuel? Holy fuck, ID drive that thing through the showroom. My work truck is always towing heavy and I have only put Def in it a hand full of times in the 30k miles I've put on it. I'm guessing maybe 5-7k miles? Every tank would drive me insane, especially at 6 mpg
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my 6.7 averages 8.9 mpg on the meter over 175k miles. I figure it used roughly $100 in def between oil changs somewhere around every 8k miles.
 
2big bronco said:
my 6.7 averages 8.9 mpg on the meter over 175k miles. I figure it used roughly $100 in def between oil changs somewhere around every 8k miles.
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Just to put the operating cost into perspective, if you combined all the most leaky components in my shitbox fleet into one car it would take me more than 50k and maybe a hair less than 100k to go through enough fluids (not counting motor oil and gasoline) to equal what you spend on DEF in one oil change. :lmao:

Two $25 jugs of generic dex/merc, a 3rd for P/S leaks and, $22 ($10 jug coolant, $1 gal distilled) of coolant, figure round out the rest with gear oil which doesn't really leak in anything I own.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Just to put the operating cost into perspective, if you combined all the most leaky components in my shitbox fleet into one car it would take me more than 50k and maybe a hair less than 100k to go through enough fluids (not counting motor oil and gasoline) to equal what you spend on DEF in one oil change. :lmao:

Two $25 jugs of generic dex/merc, a 3rd for P/S leaks and, $22 ($10 jug coolant, $1 gal distilled) of coolant, figure round out the rest with gear oil which doesn't really leak in anything I own.
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Your whole fleet combined won't do shit compared to his service truck. But if it makes you feel better...
 
If you pay more than $3.65 per gallon for def you're doing it wrong.

P.S. this wasn't a how cheap I can do it competition...
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
My 19 6.7 service truck would hardly ever need DEF so it didn't really matter. While it was at the dealer for the CP4 fiasco they performed some emissions calibration related recall that I had ignored for 4ish years and when I got it back that fucker started drinking DEF almost as fast as it did fuel. :shaking:
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I get around 1,800 miles per tank of DEF in my F-600 service truck. Just bought a 55-gallon drum so I don't have to pick up the little cans all the time.
 
krttrkllr said:
I get around 1,800 miles per tank of DEF in my F-600 service truck. Just bought a 55-gallon drum so I don't have to pick up the little cans all the time.
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Do y'all have def at the pump?

That's all I do is get fuel and DEF at the same pump, usually all the truck stops have it.
 
CarterKraft said:
Do y'all have def at the pump?

That's all I do is get fuel and DEF at the same pump, usually all the truck stops have it.
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Not here they don’t. I’ve seen those in my travels but there aren’t any def pumps in Farmington. The best I can do is $4.40 a gal sometimes. Had to panic buy some the other day. $15 a gallon :shaking:
 
Some of the truck stops do, but fuel prices are usually higher so I avoid them.
 
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