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Need a 3/4-1 ton Truck for Long Hauls

I fucking HATE wrenching on Fords. Some of the worst engineering and hardest to get to parts I’ve ever dealt with. No way I’d run a turbo. When those cause issues they’re not easy to fix, at least not for me because I’ve never bought a turbo and most likely never will.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Why pay the Toyota tax? You will get more truck for the same money not buying the hipster versions
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I grew up driving 1 ton Fords that my dad owned, I’ve owned other Fords, Mopars, Chevys, and nothing has felt as solid and well put together as my 4Runner. It was the first time I was actually impressed with an SUV.

I’ve never driven a Tundra. But if a 2010-2015 Tundra feels like a brand new truck, I’d be hard pressed to pass on it.

Then I see the mileages people are putting on Toyotas. I haven’t seen some of these mileages since my dad’s 7.3 vans.
 
In a quick search the 2010-2012 V8 Fords that are clean are priced almost the same as similar Tundras.

Edit: I was talking to @KungFooMASTA’s buddy this past week. He works at a Ford dealership and drives a Tundra. It was a 2011 with 200,000 miles, bed constantly loaded with tons of tools and parts and junk, and he said it pretty much lives with a trailer hooked to it.

He was not nice to this truck and I’m sure his buddy’s could attest. That sold me on searching down a clean Tundra.

Kungfoo’s other buddy had a clean 8.1 Chevy. Does all it needs to, and then he told me the transfer case pumps are known for wearing holes in the cases. So he had to do a temporary patch to keep his fluids in.

My thought is, if I’m spending $25,000 on a clean truck, it better fucking last. I mean last a LONG time. I won’t be driving this in salt, so it shouldn’t rust.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
Pull the rear seat, add a Murphy bed and now it doubles as an RV. :laughing:
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This is a 70qt cooler. I did not move the seats forward

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Fwiw alot of the loggers have started running f150's with the ecobooster. Dunno how long they are lasting, but I'm seeing more an more of them
 
Steve300xcw said:
Fwiw alot of the loggers have started running f150's with the ecobooster. Dunno how long they are lasting, but I'm seeing more an more of them
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I’m pretty sure there is a component known to fail on those. Maybe something with the timing chains? Oil pumps?

From what I’ve learned, I never base a purchase on fleet vehicles. Those are basically the best deals a brand will give. Not the most reliable.
 
Dunno anything about an ecoboost. Seem to see alot of f150's with around 100k miles for sale with new Tcases and front end parts.

I imagine running a f150 for a year or two an then dumping it is cheaper than a fleet of new diesels...

Fleets all depend. Yea alot of it is because its the cheapest thing out there. But generally the smaller crews working in the woods are going to hang onto shit that works until it is flat used up. Hardly ever see a chevy anymore, lots of fords and dodges. Seeing more gas 3/4 an 1ton rigs. But now these f150s.

I just found it interesting.
 
But do yourself a favor an hop on a plane when you do buy something.

Theres a lot of stuff like this out there if you look

portland.craigslist.org

2001 GMC Sahara 2500 HD for sale by owner - Happy Valley, OR - craigslist

2001 GMC Sahara 2500 HD 4x4 8.1 L, fully loaded automatic power, steering air conditioning, two wheel cruise control power windows, power seats AM/FM cd fifth wheel package toolbox alloyed wheels...
portland.craigslist.org
 
Steve300xcw said:
But do yourself a favor an hop on a plane when you do buy something.

Theres a lot of stuff like this out there if you look

portland.craigslist.org

2001 GMC Sahara 2500 HD for sale by owner - Happy Valley, OR - craigslist

2001 GMC Sahara 2500 HD 4x4 8.1 L, fully loaded automatic power, steering air conditioning, two wheel cruise control power windows, power seats AM/FM cd fifth wheel package toolbox alloyed wheels...
portland.craigslist.org
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No chevy guy here but that's a nice truck. Be nicer with a 6spd manual tho.

Sahara the middle range off-road jeep wannabe?:flipoff2:
 
Steve300xcw said:
But do yourself a favor an hop on a plane when you do buy something.

Theres a lot of stuff like this out there if you look

portland.craigslist.org

2001 GMC Sahara 2500 HD for sale by owner - Happy Valley, OR - craigslist

2001 GMC Sahara 2500 HD 4x4 8.1 L, fully loaded automatic power, steering air conditioning, two wheel cruise control power windows, power seats AM/FM cd fifth wheel package toolbox alloyed wheels...
portland.craigslist.org
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I’ll definitely be hunting down rust free. The trucks I’m looking at are rust free within 300 miles. Lots of guys with these nicer trucks won’t run them in salt.

I hate sacrificing my Tracker, but it’s cheaper than a $25,000 truck. :laughing:
 
IowaOffRoad said:
No chevy guy here but that's a nice truck. Be nicer with a 6spd manual tho.

Sahara the middle range off-road jeep wannabe?:flipoff2:
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Im not either but I wouldnt bitch about that one. Have only seen a few 6spds, and I was never in the right place at the right time:laughing:

Gotta hunch its an old person talk to text correction:homer:
 
FleshEater said:
But if a 2010-2015 Tundra feels like a brand new truck, I’d be hard pressed to pass on it.
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Ummmm… read this again. Slowly.

If you find any 10 year old+ truck that feels brand new… tell the class. :flipoff2:
 
rockota said:
Ummmm… read this again. Slowly.

If you find any 10 year old+ truck that feels brand new… tell the class. :flipoff2:
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My current truck rattles, clangs, and sounds like nuts and bolts are falling off going down the highway. I’ve had people in my truck and their like, this is a total piece of shit.

My Tahoe is the same way.
 
Aluminum f150 because rust belt. Crew cab is massive you can fit 5 women across the back row. Fly to somewhere without salt if your going to be wrenching on it.
 
My f150 5.0 has the oil dipstick on the side of it. You have to damn near crawl into the engine bay to check the oil. Pisses me off everytime:laughing:

Transmission dipstick is a fucking bolt on the side of the transmission:homer:
 
FleshEater said:
I grew up driving 1 ton Fords that my dad owned, I’ve owned other Fords, Mopars, Chevys, and nothing has felt as solid and well put together as my 4Runner. It was the first time I was actually impressed with an SUV.

I’ve never driven a Tundra. But if a 2010-2015 Tundra feels like a brand new truck, I’d be hard pressed to pass on it.

Then I see the mileages people are putting on Toyotas. I haven’t seen some of these mileages since my dad’s 7.3 vans.
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I’ve put 180k on a 2500 LBZ, 100k on a 7.3 F250, and 40k on a 6.7 F350. None of them hold a candle maintenance wise to any of the various Toyotas that I’ve had to 200k-300k. Just get a Tundra and be happy with the hood welded shut and no ass massagers you can get in the latest domestic.

I do not understand the love boner this forum has for GMT800’s. That LBZ drivetrain was insanely good but everything else sucked. Sticky HVAC blend doors, multiple blower resistors, leaky trans lines, blown brake lines, a fusable link that tried to burn the truck down and I’m sure other shit I’ve forgotten about. It always needed something. Always.

The Fords have less repetitive body related issues but the 6.7 has crunchy plastics. Charge air cooler tube exploded and the sunroof tracks imploded and jammed it open.
 
Steve300xcw said:
My f150 5.0 has the oil dipstick on the side of it. You have to damn near crawl into the engine bay to check the oil. Pisses me off everytime:laughing:

Transmission dipstick is a fucking bolt on the side of the transmission:homer:
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My thought process is run the worst case scenario on a trip, and what truck would you prefer to work on alongside a major interstate with the tools you have?

Preferably none of them. :flipoff2: But this is what goes through my head looking at these vehicles.
 
Snowy said:
I’ve put 180k on a 2500 LBZ, 100k on a 7.3 F250, and 40k on a 6.7 F350. None of them hold a candle maintenance wise to any of the various Toyotas that I’ve had to 200k-300k. Just get a Tundra and be happy with the hood welded shut and no ass massagers you can get in the latest domestic.

I do not understand the love boner this forum has for GMT800’s. That LBZ drivetrain was insanely good but everything else sucked. Sticky HVAC blend doors, multiple blower resistors, leaky trans lines, blown brake lines, a fusable link that tried to burn the truck down and I’m sure other shit I’ve forgotten about. It always needed something. Always.

The Fords have less repetitive body related issues but the 6.7 has crunchy plastics. Charge air cooler tube exploded and the sunroof tracks imploded and jammed it open.
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Oh so all the same bullshit I’ve fixed or dealt with on my POS GMT900? Good to know. :laughing:
 
Snowy said:
I’ve put 180k on a 2500 LBZ, 100k on a 7.3 F250, and 40k on a 6.7 F350. None of them hold a candle maintenance wise to any of the various Toyotas that I’ve had to 200k-300k. Just get a Tundra and be happy with the hood welded shut and no ass massagers you can get in the latest domestic.

I do not understand the love boner this forum has for GMT800’s. That LBZ drivetrain was insanely good but everything else sucked. Sticky HVAC blend doors, multiple blower resistors, leaky trans lines, blown brake lines, a fusable link that tried to burn the truck down and I’m sure other shit I’ve forgotten about. It always needed something. Always.

The Fords have less repetitive body related issues but the 6.7 has crunchy plastics. Charge air cooler tube exploded and the sunroof tracks imploded and jammed it open.
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“Yabut they’re cheap to fix”-everyone who loves GMT 800s and can’t do simple math:laughing:
 
FleshEater said:
Oh so all the same bullshit I’ve fixed or dealt with on my POS GMT900? Good to know. :laughing:
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I just remembered that I put at least one door lock actuator in too, but I presume your GMT900 got all 4 of them lol.

IowaOffRoad said:
“Yabut they’re cheap to fix”-everyone who loves GMT 800s and can’t do simple math:laughing:
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Right? :laughing:

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Snowy said:
I just remembered that I put at least one door lock actuator in too, but I presume your GMT900 got all 4 of them lol.



Right? :laughing:

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At 131,000 miles and about 7 years of ownership I’ve done the following.

4WD actuator
Upper Control arms
Front wheel bearings
Numerous lower ball joints
Shocks
All new brakes
Fixed all the broken wires in the driver’s side door because they broke from just opening
Transmission rebuild at 99k.
Oil pressure sending unit

Still needs fixed:

Every door needs new pins as they are worn badly.
Transmission lines are leaking.
Exhaust hangers all need new rubber mounts (currently held up with 12/2 wire).
Rear doors need wires or controls fixed as none of them work.
Exhaust manifold gaskets or a whole new top end rebuild needs done.

So yeah, no love for Chevy here anymore.
 
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