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Major Bridge in Baltimore Collapses After Being Struck by Cargo Ship

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:stirthepot: tinfoil speculation time

Problem being...after the last roughly 8 years, is it really a stretch?
 
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Francis Scott Key wrote the words to The Star Spangled Banner.

Interesting coincidence or a message being sent?
There's a marker by that bridge where the British ship was anchored when F. S. Key wrote his poem.

You can see the bridge and marker from Fort McHenry.
I've ridden over the bridge countless times the first 10 years of my existence ('65 to '75).
 
Is it just me, or did they seem like they had stopped traffic across the bridge? I see a bunch of cars going across, then don't see anymore as it got closer
Looks like it to me as well. Just based on headlights I don't see anything moving across that wasn't clear (but headlights from cars on the far side may not have been visible).
It looks (from the timestamps on the video) like from when the ship regained power the first time and started to turn it was about 2 minutes, so hopefully the construction crew had time to get clear.

Aaron Z
 
That's no shit. Baltimore is easily one of the top 3 trashiest cities I've ever been too.
After about 1973; Baltimore went from an FDR Democrat mayor to a modern pinko-lib progressive mayor.
And it's been that way ever since.

They can't keep a mayor in office because the last three resign/was indicted on corruption charges.
They had a DA resign on corruption charges just a couple of years ago.
 
There seems to be protection barriers around the power poles but nothing around the bridge legs? I doubt they would be very effective against a fully loaded ship, but seems weird to have 1 but not the other.

It look like they had a single protection pile on either side of each of the two center piers, but they only work if they ship is coming head-on. Even a little bit of skew would make them entirely worthless.

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Perspective kinda fucks with the scale, but you can see one clearly in front of the ship in the first pic. That would have been on the opposite side of the bridge from where the ship hit.


And the second pic, you can see it about 3/4 of the way back toward the stern. Looks like he snaked right by it and straight in to the pier.


So yeah, a couple/few million $$ worth of added pier protection could have probably prevented this.
 
Bridge/highway closed and the port will be for quite some time.

Coincidence?
Nope
There's a ton of ships bound for Baltimore that are just sitting near Annapolis right now.


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stopping imports, part of the plan
I'd bet there were already salvage crews en route within hours of that thing going down last night. I bet they'll have the main channel opened back up in under a week. Way too much money riding on keeping that port moving.
npr said this morning that all new car imports come through that port. thousands per day. PLUS all the other imports.
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:stirthepot: tinfoil speculation time
my first thought exactly
Problem being...after the last roughly 8 years, is it really a stretch?
nope. kind of sad isnt it.
 
We drove across that bridge last year. It was long as hell, for a bridge, can’t imagine falling off of it.
Back when I frequently drove that corridor I always used the tunnel, and the 'little' one at that. But now I avoid the NE corridor like the plague. I'll drive the extra miles on 81.
 
npr said this morning that all new car imports come through that port. thousands per day. PLUS all the other imports.

I wouldn't count on NPR actually reporting anything factual. There's no way that ALL new cars come through Baltimore. Maybe all cars for the East costs, but I even doubt that. I lived in Charleston in the 90's and there were tons coming through there.

Did they also find a way to tie this to climate change?
 
Some cars come through there, 800k per year, not all, the Port of Newark would like a word with anyone that says all cars come through Baltimore.
 
I don't know shit about boats but in that last linked vid, obviously the footage is sped up, but look how big the splash/impact was. Seems like the thing was hauling ass to make that big a splash? She's got a 6'min-70'max Draught and that splash was over the deck (@ 0:44 seconds)
A report I saw stated a bit over 7 knots.
 
not if it was on purpose.

can someone say anything definitive about ships being under tug control until after that bridge?
Exactly.

I read there were two pilots onboard?
Pilots usually live local.
Get a pilot that's pissed off/depressed/suicidal/in the middle of a divorce/going through bankruptcy etc, and you might end up with something like the F.S. Key collision.

It's happened enough in the airline industry.:eek:
 
I wouldn't count on NPR actually reporting anything factual. There's no way that ALL new cars come through Baltimore. Maybe all cars for the East costs, but I even doubt that. I lived in Charleston in the 90's and there were tons coming through there.

Did they also find a way to tie this to climate change?
It's definitely not all Baltimore. It's a major port for cars but far from the only one. I know for a fact we get some through the Port of Richmond. All Nissans come through here iirc. I know Baltimore gets all Subarus for the US that are imported.
 
This has been my fear every time I've ever crossed a bridge for my entire life
Bridges, tunnels, parking decks, etc. I'll use them because there's not really another choice but I don't like doing it. Much rather go over a bridge than be in a tunnel or deck collapse though.
 
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