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KenV said:
Origin Maine: boots/sweatshirt/jeans have been solid. It's casual wear, so I don't beat on the stuff. Just the same I am very happy with the fit/feel/durability in everyday use.

Estwing and Vaughn hammers: mine have held up well for a couple of decades. I mean, they're hammers, so take that for what it's worth. But they weren't overpriced. Come to think, I still have my dad's Estwing from 1965. It has a chip in the face because everything looked like a nail to me when I was younger.

Edelbrock: I have two Ford 302 intake manifolds to compare. One's an offshore unit (Typhoon) for the original fuelie 5.0, the other a genuine Edelbrock Air Gap 302 (foundry and machining still in CA as of last year). When installed, the Typhoon was soft/porous enough that I felt I could port match it with a knife. The Edelbrock is the opposite in fit, finish, and material quality.
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Thanks for the input! I'll add them with links when I get the chance. I have an earning hammer and a few punches. They've been good with the exception of the rubber grip on the hammer started to fail. I covered it with some heat shrink and it's doing great!
 
Tryloff said:
Thanks for the input! I'll add them with links when I get the chance. I have an earning hammer and a few punches. They've been good with the exception of the rubber grip on the hammer started to fail. I covered it with some heat shrink and it's doing great!
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I edited the Origin Maine reference with a link. The hammers/car bits are sold in various places so I didn't. :lazinessemoji:
 
Tryloff said:
Through my research, I can't add them to the list.

Walmart owns the Hyper Tough name but it is actually Taiwan-based tool company Test Rite Tools that manufactures the line of products and accessories. They have their North American headquarters located in New York as well as factories in China and Taiwan.
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IowaOffRoad said:
Are they knocking them off and claiming US made? The hyper tough prybars I've seen recently look like Wilde's with a hyper tough logo
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Tryloff said:
I'm not sure where the made in use comes from. Maybe just the grip? What I posted was a quote from a website. I double checked a different site with the same result.
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It's pretty well documented that they're made by Wilde.


Harbor Freight's big Icon one is made by Mayhew, also USA.
 
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Tryloff said:
Thanks for the input! I'll add them with links when I get the chance. I have an earning hammer and a few punches. They've been good with the exception of the rubber grip on the hammer started to fail. I covered it with some heat shrink and it's doing great!
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What the fuck is an earning hammer?
 
Elwenil said:
Well they got fucked on that one a number of times. I remember pulling multiple items off the shelves because Walmart thought they could be slick and put "made in USA" on the packaging, when only the packaging was actually made in the US.
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mrblaine said:
To what end? The American way is to spend the least possible and then brag to all your buddies how you fucked over the salesman with the pennies you beat him out of so he can't feed his kids. That mentality forced manufacturers to go overseas just to try and stay even with the shitheads putting price first over quality. We can't compete and don't even try.
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Holy crap dude amen. On point.:beer:


Yeah I like American made but it ends up a lot of the time other places make good stuff as well. It's more turned into anything but China.

But I do look at the product origins a lot when buying stuff. Often I'll pick a domestic widget over a non.
 
i will add that other countries are better at things than we are because they have the multi generational investment of a skillset. so to default that the usa is the best is not always the case. making purchasing decisions based on how they treat the work force and their citizen is a better way to frame things.

someone mentioned origin. they have an interesting story and as it you unpack it, it becomes evident that if they would have waited 2 or 3 more years to start they would not have had access to the people with the knowledge/skillset to make what theyre doing happen.
 
I don’t post much but I’ll add one I’ve used. Batterycablesusa.com. I’m hard to impress but their stuff is outstanding! No affiliation here but check them out if you ever need a battery or alternator cable type thing that is better than anything else available anywhere imop.
 
There is a short video under Solder Pellets/select options but I don’t know how to post it. Watch that and I’m pretty sure you will be sold. I’ve ordered custom cables and they were shipped the next day and equal or less expensive than what I could have built from local auto parts stores and much better quality. I think this is appropriate all USA stuff.
 
Norse bakeware
Anchor glass pans
Wright wrenches
Some Milwaukee hand tools
Duckworth merino wool jackets
Fox River socks
Forloh hunting wear
Smith & Rouge work wear
Hill People Gear packs


Fleet Farm carries alot of US made products
 
Weasel said:
Norse bakeware
Anchor glass pans
Wright wrenches
Some Milwaukee hand tools
Duckworth merino wool jackets
Fox River socks
Forloh hunting wear
Smith & Rouge work wear
Hill People Gear packs


Fleet Farm carries alot of US made products
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Thank you. I left milwaukee out for reasons and I had to leave Smith and Rouge out because I saw they were domestically owned but I did not see anywhere that their products were American made. If you can find that, I'll put em up there.

All others made the list and a lot of the products look really good! Thank you for the suggestions
 
Radial Dynamics and Howe for steering stuff.
EBC Brakes, USA and USB (UK)

Cooking. Lancaster Cast Iron Skillets. Absolutely worth every $$

I'm absolutely done breaking some Chinesium stuff breaking and ruining trips or having to throw it away. It's not worth it to me anymore.
 
My daily wear Made in USA


Jeans
Originusa.com
Boots
Danner
Anderson Bean
Socks
Darn tough
Watch
Sangin Instruments


Anyone got a lead on shirts and boxer briefs?
 
Not everything Made in America is made by Americans. At least not the Americans as you picture them in your starry eyed mind. Especially when it comes to casting and machining facilities.
 
If I won the big $ Powerball/Megamillions my idea was to make an amazon, but of only american made and sourced products. Not just a sticker tacked on at the end of manufacturing but a tried and tested and actually made here in good ole US of A.:usa:
 
Riddle me this - over the past few decades we have heard of more and more manufacturers moving to Mexico, China, etc and yet here we are in 2024 with a thriving and growing North America, high employment, high inflation because people have lots of $$ to spend. If all these jobs have been lost, shouldn't the US economy be shrinking or at the very least stagnant?
My take is very simply that things have changed. Sure lots of jobs have been lost to foreign factories but they have been replaced by different jobs. How many people does SpaceX employ and what is their annual budget? That company did not even exist a few years ago.

Chinese stuff used to be all crap. Now just some of it is crap. That trend is not going to reverse itself, they are only going to get better and better.

The key for America is innovation and vision. Let China create mass consumer goods - we can't compete anyway. America's place as manufacturing leader of retail goods is over - it is not coming back. There will be a future , a good future, for our grandkids, but it will not involve them building shoes in a US factory, or machining mass market brake calipers.
 
bad zuki said:
Radial Dynamics and Howe for steering stuff.
EBC Brakes, USA and USB (UK)

Cooking. Lancaster Cast Iron Skillets. Absolutely worth every $$

I'm absolutely done breaking some Chinesium stuff breaking and ruining trips or having to throw it away. It's not worth it to me anymore.
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EBC rotors are all Chinese, they machine the slots here, but that's about it.
 
Tryloff said:
In my limited personal experience, domestically made goods are better than their off shore rivals.
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I'd love to be able to buy cheap American shit.

I need a tool to last 2 jobs, not 200. US government is the only reason I can import from across the world cheaper than I can buy local
 
Fuzzydog said:
Riddle me this - over the past few decades we have heard of more and more manufacturers moving to Mexico, China, etc and yet here we are in 2024 with a thriving and growing North America, high employment, high inflation because people have lots of $$ to spend. If all these jobs have been lost, shouldn't the US economy be shrinking or at the very least stagnant?
My take is very simply that things have changed. Sure lots of jobs have been lost to foreign factories but they have been replaced by different jobs. How many people does SpaceX employ and what is their annual budget? That company did not even exist a few years ago.

Chinese stuff used to be all crap. Now just some of it is crap. That trend is not going to reverse itself, they are only going to get better and better.

The key for America is innovation and vision. Let China create mass consumer goods - we can't compete anyway. America's place as manufacturing leader of retail goods is over - it is not coming back. There will be a future , a good future, for our grandkids, but it will not involve them building shoes in a US factory, or machining mass market brake calipers.
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If your premise is correct, that we are not going to re-shore any of the low to mid level manufacturing, then those who are currently having the work done in China will still need to diversify their manufacturing base.
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Those yellow bars are in dispute, and recently China has largely confirmed the yellow bars don't exist. The abandonment of the one-child policy came too late and culturally there is pressure to not have kids. Also, see the lop-sided nature of the M-F ratio. Chinese labor cost has skyrocketed relative to the 90s. The main reason why stuff is still being produced their is the cost in building out manufacturing capacity elsewhere. Some companies have, mainly to Vietnam and other SE Asian countries, as well as India, but the Indian .gov isn't as supportive as 80s/90s China was for this sort of thing. Some is coming back to Mexico, but the Mexican workforce is also expensive in relative terms.
See Peter Zeihan's work on this. I don't agree with some of his politics or some of his solutions, but I believe he is good at identifying the problems.
 
I think I am picking up what you are putting down.....in other words, the retail manufacturing landscape in China is going to change, just as it did in the US, as it will on Mexico, Vietnam, India, etc.
 
Was reading an article years ago that posited that wages oversees would get to the point that it wouldn't be feasible to manufacture and ship and still be competitive by 2030. But those overseas places don't have an EPA(that should be de-fanged btw) to deal with and the headaches they dish out daily.
 
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