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And standing seam is the only way to go for a residential application. Just put it on the cabin in 2011.
I disagree.Standing seam and an exposed fastener R-panel are two different worlds.
Just put it on the cabin in 2011.
I put exposed fastener metal roof on our first house 30 years ago. Still there with no leaks. Been through 2 hail storms that caused neighbors with shingles to replace. Had damage from Katrina that caused us to replace about 6 panels due to big limbs going throughThey suck. You get no cell service or poor service. Heavy rains they are noisy. Imagine trying to talk on your phone on the porch but the damn roof is to damn loud.
The rubber washer and screw eventually leak. On barns small leaks aren't as big of deal but drywall, furnishings, its important. Summer the roof will heat up and make popping noises and while cooling off.
My experience. Good for detached garages, horse barns, shit house.
Then you don't have a clue about metal roof systemsI disagree.
I have experience paying for and having both. They are not “two different worlds”Then you don't have a clue about metal roof systems
Again...clueless. with the exposed fasteners the only thing between you and a leak is a rubber grommet that will eventually dry out and crack. It will be a slow leak that you probably won't even notice. The wood will start soaking it up. Eventually a good uplift will take it off and you'll see all the little holes where the wood deteriorated around the screws.I have experience paying for and having both. They are not “two different worlds”
No, not a world of difference. Standing seam requires good installation just like any other roofAgain...clueless. with the exposed fasteners the only thing between you and a leak is a rubber grommet that will eventually dry out and crack. It will be a slow leak that you probably won't even notice. The wood will start soaking it up. Eventually a good uplift will take it off and you'll see all the little holes where the wood deteriorated around the screws.
Sure you can replace the screws before the grommet drys out but you have to use a bigger screw.
Yes, there is a world of difference. One is a barn roof and one is and engineered roof system.
I put exposed fastener metal roof on our first house 30 years ago. Still there with no leaks. Been through 2 hail storms that caused neighbors with shingles to replace. Had damage from Katrina that caused us to replace about 6 panels due to big limbs going through
gauge matters
I’m a big guy and would walk around on it to blow off leaves pine straw
$300-500 fixes the cell issue.
No, not a world of difference. Standing seam requires good installation just like any other roof
all of the barns, etc I personally have plus the 30yo low pitch house and I don‘t have these phantom leaks. If these worried leaks were so prevalent, they would not be used in commercial construction
I got standing seam for the look, but the cost is significantly higher
i do agree.Will you at least agree, when installed properly, nothing is currently superior by design than standing seam for residential construction.
He’s referring to a cellular repeaterI positioned all the furniture next to windows. Weird layout for sure
Yes, this.He’s referring to a cellular repeater
I have ubiquiti nanostations meshed at my farm. No cell service over most of it, but I have wifi accessible from half the standsyea, I've got PowerLine adapters throughout. Worked well. My deer stand out in the woods gets on bar on the wi-fi, haha.
But internet goes down, good luck. one bar and like 3G service. you ain't getting shit.
Someone mentioned that I should do that, but not really worth the effort unless I wanted to drop several hundred on deer cams that I can view remotely.I have ubiquiti nanostations meshed at my farm. No cell service over most of it, but I have wifi accessible from half the stands
maybe in an area with lots of sunlight and constant heat. The rubber washers seem to hold up fine around here.Again...clueless. with the exposed fasteners the only thing between you and a leak is a rubber grommet that will eventually dry out and crack. It will be a slow leak that you probably won't even notice. The wood will start soaking it up. Eventually a good uplift will take it off and you'll see all the little holes where the wood deteriorated around the screws.
Sure you can replace the screws before the grommet drys out but you have to use a bigger screw.
Yes, there is a world of difference. One is a barn roof and one is and engineered roof system.
maybe in an area with lots of sunlight and constant heat. The rubber washers seem to hold up fine around here.
That's what I used too, also was told "Do not crank them down" salesman took me out and showed me just how tight was tight enough.There are also different types and quality. Some have the washer captured under the head, not just bonded to a washer. I'd imagine they are better being protected from uv and cracking. I use a quality screw with bonded rubber washer on most projects, but they are all steel buildings.
what the fuck I've got a thousand dollars sitting here3/4 CDX $93
We have lots of sun and heat in summer, lots or rain amd 40-60 in spring and fall with up to 40 degree swings. And cold and snowy most winters. The washers usually go tits up every 10 years around here. Probably replacing out screw down with standing seem this summer. I live on the west side on the cascades in the foothills in washington. About 20 miles from the PCT.maybe in an area with lots of sunlight and constant heat. The rubber washers seem to hold up fine around here.
People really like them here in Pennsylvania and I never hear anything bad about the screws. Maybe the old ones had crappier screws. I suspect quality of install, roof pitch and various other things are a factor.We have lots of sun and heat in summer, lots or rain amd 40-60 in spring and fall with up to 40 degree swings. And cold and snowy most winters. The washers usually go tits up every 10 years around here. Probably replacing out screw down with standing seem this summer. I live on the west side on the cascades in the foothills in washington. About 20 miles from the PCT.
Most of the ones around me are 6/12 pitch or steeper mine is a 10/12. No idea if that has something to do with it.People really like them here in Pennsylvania and I never hear anything bad about the screws. Maybe the old ones had crappier screws. I suspect quality of install, roof pitch and various other things are a factor.
Back in the day barn roofs were secured with nails that had lead around the heads. They almost never leaked if properly installed, even after a hundred years. The old rubber ones would crack in no time. Then there is proper installation, running the screw down until the washer mashes out is not the correct way. Standing seam will always be "better" with proper installation because the fasteners are hidden. It's also $1250-$1500 a square here.People really like them here in Pennsylvania and I never hear anything bad about the screws. Maybe the old ones had crappier screws. I suspect quality of install, roof pitch and various other things are a factor.
Yep. The newer washers are way better, too.Back in the day barn roofs were secured with nails that had lead around the heads. They almost never leaked if properly installed, even after a hundred years. The old rubber ones would crack in no time. Then there is proper installation, running the screw down until the washer mashes out is not the correct way. Standing seam will always be "better" with proper installation because the fasteners are hidden. It's also $1250-$1500 a square here.