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John Deere workers on strike

bgaidan said:
A friend of mine works at the one here. Was Deere-Hitachi, but apparently the Hitachi thing is over so now just Deere. They've slowed production and cut hours. He's been there long enough that he's not at the front of the line for layoffs, but still probably at risk.

This is what they announced a couple months ago. I though they were going to be building the minis there, but apparently it's for their electric line:
www.winstonsalem.com

John Deere Kernersville Expands Product Line in Forsyth County - Greater Winston-Salem, Inc.

John Deere will invest about $70 million to build a new 380,000-square-foot factory in Kernersville, an expansion of its John Deere Kernersville campus. The factory will produce small, 6-10 metric ton, excavators and is expected to add about 150 new jobs. Currently, about 600 salaried and...
www.winstonsalem.com www.winstonsalem.com

John Deere, Kreisel to Build Batteries, Chargers in Kernersville, NC

John Deere announces U.S.-based manufacturing facility dedicated to the production of Kreisel Electric battery and charging products.
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Deere Hitachi has been mostly dissolved for around four/five years now. This was on the full sized excavators line of equipment only. Deere mfg their own machines now. The minis are still Hitachi for now and I heard rumors two years ago they were going to have Wacher build them for Deere but apparently that’s not working out.
 
Landslide said:
Deere Hitachi has been mostly dissolved for around four/five years now. This was on the full sized excavators line of equipment only. Deere mfg their own machines now. The minis are still Hitachi for now and I heard rumors two years ago they were going to have Wacher build them for Deere but apparently that’s not working out.
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IIRC Hitachi sends Deere parts for all excavators until Deere releases their own design.
 
1oddtech said:
IIRC Hitachi sends Deere parts for all excavators until Deere releases their own design.
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From what I've been told, Hitachi got Deere's hydraulics and Deere got got Hitachi's chassis. Not clue how much of that trade is still going on now that they've split up the production side.

Funny thing - one of my previous companies had two Deere 450s and one of the Hitachi counterparts. My foremen and operators swore the Hitachi was better and the Deeres were shit, despite coming off the exact same line and being identical other than the paint.
 
Steve300xcw said:
where would that be?
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I work on management side of a union plant and the there's two things that I would say the union helps with. One is the company can't arbitrarily change conditions of your employment without having a conversation and that change being written down. Two is if you have to fight company policy or have a boss that doesn't like you keeping from being promoted or whatever wrong you feel was inflicted on you instead of you fighting HR as a guy that just wants to go to work you have the guys who really like fighting HR doing it for you.
 
Pt_Ranger_v8 said:
The money comes out every paycheck, if I'm a member or not. Talk about a fucking ripoff :mad3:


I'm not a fan - don't need it at my current place of employment. but the money's too good to pass up :emb:
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I thought the SC Janus decision did away with that?
 
I was union for 12 years, joined when I got hired because they were fresh off of a strike and got a good contract, and the guy who vouched for me was union, it was the right thing to do. The union was a shit show, the company was a shit show. I pissed off both camps:laughing:
Eventually the shitty union leadership left and I took the job so another dipshit democrat lifer couldn't.
They tried to fire good people for petty shit, got one. I had to get my pound of flesh, and I did. Eventually we could end a termination hearing by meeting up with the boss outside
"If you want to give him 3 days off for being a dumbshit, I won't fight it, 4 and we have a problem"
The clout I had I used to make things better, procedures, safety stuff , rescue team, got more tooling, then turned around and made sure my guys respected the new equipment.

Went to big table negotiations and both sides were unreasonable, the company wanted to break the union, the head union guy wanted to retire with a big win, we got pushed into a strike and walked right into it.

I was pissed.

But, the union did way more for me than I'd ever expected, paid my rent for like 18 months, way more than I'd ever paid in.

They folded at some point, but are still working the "case" through the nlrb.

Fuck all public unions.

In unsafe industries, being able to tell a retard boss to shove his big ideas up his ass is pretty choice.

In general, if a company is unionized, in going to assume it's because it's poorly managed, and I don't really want to be employed there hourly or salary


That's my take:homer:
 
After getting some supervisors suspended in a tit for tat fashion, I'd introduce myself to new supervisors and tell them I'd prefer things were handled on the shop floor, if you have a problem with my guy, tell him, if he doesn't handle it, tell me. If my guy has a problem with you, I'll tell him to tell you, if that doesn't fix it, I'll come to you, let's stay the fuck out of the office, and stay the fuck away from the rulebook and avoid they paperwork

Things were pretty chill for a while
 
speed bump said:
I work on management side of a union plant and the there's two things that I would say the union helps with. One is the company can't arbitrarily change conditions of your employment without having a conversation and that change being written down. Two is if you have to fight company policy or have a boss that doesn't like you keeping from being promoted or whatever wrong you feel was inflicted on you instead of you fighting HR as a guy that just wants to go to work you have the guys who really like fighting HR doing it for you.
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All is good till they close the doors an move to another country
 
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baldduck1974 said:
All is good till they close the doors an move to another country
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Being non-union wouldn't change that.

I grew up in what was probably one of the strongest union towns this side of the Mississippi at one point. Price of fuel/power was high and the price of copper was low. The anaconda company had a big legacy tail here so arco shut it down. 9 years later the mine reopened non-union and ever since they have paid just good enough to keep the union out and operated that place that like coppers gonna hit a $1.35/lb any second and they are gonna close up shop.

When I got out of school I went into the oilfield on the drilling side in a super non-union state for a non-union company. Price of oil crashed in 15 and they laid 90% of the workforce off and worked the rest of us like rented mules. When it picked back up in 2017 they never changed that attitude and lost all their hands and work when they could have dominated the market for a year or two.

In every case ive personally experienced the workforce being union or not really didn't matter. Outside of market conditions or poorly operating a place with a legacy tail will get you more times than not.
 
FJC11 said:
Unions made it harder to get rid of the fuck ups and outright useless fucks.
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I didn't find that to be the case with the carpenter's local I was in. If you sucked, your ass got layed off. If you got layed off cause you sucked, you didn't get sent out again. I've heard you yanks are on a drastically different program though.
 
Deere is a tech company more than an ag company, anymore. There was a good video on YouTube about it, good watch.

There tractors are built mostly by robots. You can tell. Heavy iron frame, all systems are compartmentalized, covered in shitty plastic made to look like a pissed off grasshopper. The valuable parts of the machines aint the iron, its the hardware and software to run that machine around the field with minimal input from a human.


But their techs are kinda starting to suck now.
 
1oddtech said:
IIRC Hitachi sends Deere parts for all excavators until Deere releases their own design.
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That’s been going on long before the split. Deere built the Hitachi excavators of certain class sizes here in the states for quite some years. Hitachi will have to supply parts support for excavators sold through Deere for a min of 10 years by law. After that if Deere doesn’t offer that part you need any longer, you’ll have to see if you can get it through a Hitachi dealership.

Back in the 80’s and 90’s Deere used to stock parts for equipment they built decades ago. Then that started to change. They don’t offer a lot of parts like that anymore like they used too. No different than Ford other mfg’s.
 
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