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In the vein of ancient apocalypse.

Elephants bro....They had elephants to move the rocks and peoples to build the ramps.
 
surpip said:
:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

any time you want to explain your ramps there smart guy, I'm all ears.
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I'd also like to hear a clear ramp explanation that explains transport and placement of stones at the pace they were said to have been working.

What's not accounted for is the interval between stones, the number of people required to move and place each stone (and for those people to be on the ramps), and the ability to have the ramps reconfigured at the rate they supposedly worked to allow them to continue to work at that pace.

I mean, the current theory is that 20,000 people did it over the course of 20 years only during the part of the year when the Nile flooded the area.
 
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Oh, and Karahan Tepe is supposedly older that Gobekli Tepe.

grahamhancock.com

Karahan Tepe, Gobekli Tepe’s 12,000-years-old “Sister Site”, Begins To Reveal Its Secrets - Graham Hancock Official Website

By Graham Hancock Photographs by Santha Faiia For more than a year I’ve been deeply immersed in a major new project that involves Karahan Tepe, in Turkey’s Anatolia region, it’s better-known sister site Gobekli Tepe, and many other enigmatic ancient sites in many different parts of the world. I...
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www.ancient-origins.net

Breakthrough Discovery: Karahan Tepe is Older Than Göbekli Tepe

Researchers in Turkey are about to embark on an excavation at the ancient site of Karahan Tepe and they believe it’s much older than Göbekli Tepe, the famous “zero point of world history.”
www.ancient-origins.net www.ancient-origins.net
 
Sandy Johnson said:
Here's the part that doesn't jive well with me about the entire thing-

They're carving these blocks out of a quarry, so in theory, they could make the blocks any size they want. Somehow, with their method of moving them, it made sense to cut 1 big ass block, rather than sever smaller, more manageable blocks. If you look at all of the techniques suggested by people studying this type of thing so far, every single one of them would be easier done if the blocks were smaller in size.
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Union job
 
So start at the beginning of the operation, that might give some insight as to how they moved them.

How did they cut them so accurately ? Hemp rope, wire saw, lasers ?
 
I read this entire thread and I'm struck by a few things...

1-the machine is broken. There are no respected authorities anymore that a majority of people will take at face value
2-nobody has any belief in how capable people can be regardless of technological prowess. Hell, we have examples in "modern" times of what one person can do if motivated enough (google 'man digs tunnel through mountain', its not just burro schmidt, people in other parts of the world do it to).
3-the same people who call BS on one group of claimants to 'the truth' or 'the facts' are perfectly willing to ride or die with another group of claimants to the same.

Is there any room for someone to say "I don't know what the truth is, but this is interesting"?
 
IowaOffRoad said:
I read this entire thread and I'm struck by a few things...

1-the machine is broken. There are no respected authorities anymore that a majority of people will take at face value
2-nobody has any belief in how capable people can be regardless of technological prowess. Hell, we have examples in "modern" times of what one person can do if motivated enough (google 'man digs tunnel through mountain', its not just burro schmidt, people in other parts of the world do it to).
3-the same people who call BS on one group of claimants to 'the truth' or 'the facts' are perfectly willing to ride or die with another group of claimants to the same.

Is there any room for someone to say "I don't know what the truth is, but this is interesting"?
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Kinda agree. Seems stuck and split, plym to an extent have the answers. I’m in awe and have no idea how exactly they did it. Trees cut w bronze to make tower cranes to lift 100 tons doesn’t pass muster at face value, but hey, maybe there were enough ropes in existence to make it happen.
The part that gets me is food. To have the manpower working all day every day it would take, they need thousands of calories a day. The tech had to be good enough for a farmer to produce/distribute/refine etc enough to feed more than one more of himself. Not loincloth digging with a stick type shit more than likely. On a near infinite timeline the distance from Hunter gatherer to highly advanced agriculture production is probably only a blip between one of the catastrophic events.
Rambling. I suppose I know I don’t know and I find it a little funny when other people are so SURE of what was what 1X,XXX years ago that anybody that says, “that doesn’t sound plausible” is immediately a fucking retard
 
Blacksheep10 said:
Kinda agree. Seems stuck and split, plym to an extent have the answers. I’m in awe and have no idea how exactly they did it. Trees cut w bronze to make tower cranes to lift 100 tons doesn’t pass muster at face value, but hey, maybe there were enough ropes in existence to make it happen.
The part that gets me is food. To have the manpower working all day every day it would take, they need thousands of calories a day. The tech had to be good enough for a farmer to produce/distribute/refine etc enough to feed more than one more of himself. Not loincloth digging with a stick type shit more than likely. On a near infinite timeline the distance from Hunter gatherer to highly advanced agriculture production is probably only a blip between one of the catastrophic events.
Rambling. I suppose I know I don’t know and I find it a little funny when other people are so SURE of what was what 1X,XXX years ago that anybody that says, “that doesn’t sound plausible” is immediately a fucking retard
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And then with all that food comes shit, and I doubt they were just shitting up the river, so where'd that go?
 
Blacksheep10 said:
The part that gets me is food.
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That is one of many. Another is getting 2 million gigantic stones the same-ish path to load into barges. That would take a solid road type infrastructure by itself just to keep the log rollers from sinking into the ground after the first 10-100,000 passes, especially in a wet climate.

Ever seen the 3-4’ ruts left by a log skidder? Google says 7-10 tons on those.

But they weren’t supposed to have roads.
 
My biggest problem with the river shipment idea is the boat shuttle. If that many boats were delivering stones around the clock down a river, what did they do with them once empty? Carry them back up the shore? Fire up the mercury outboard and motor upstream? Send it out to the Mediterranean and write it off as a loss?? How much draft on a 100 ton block? Gonna maneuver that 100 tons with some paddles? I have questions.
 
power_by_429 said:
My biggest problem with the river shipment idea is the boat shuttle. If that many boats were delivering stones around the clock down a river, what did they do with them once empty? Carry them back up the shore? Fire up the mercury outboard and motor upstream? Send it out to the Mediterranean and write it off as a loss?? How much draft on a 100 ton block? Gonna maneuver that 100 tons with some paddles? I have questions.
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Well let’s say fuck the river and ship them by land. There would have to be a road, so there goes the technology development timeline again.


The reality is that if this board can’t make that work within these boundaries, it probably can’t be done. There’s just a missing piece of the puzzle.
 
Stuck said:
Dont confuse them with facts. It was aliens.
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OR this below.

DirtRoads said:
There’s just a missing piece of the puzzle.
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To look at things on a smaller scale and closer to home, look up the Coral Castle in Florida that I mention earlier. There was one 5'-2" 60 yo man quarrying and moving 30 ton blocks by himself. And claiming that he knew the secret of the pyramid builders.

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Anyone in the SE that is interested in this stuff should take the drive down and check it out. The site itself is quite small, I was surprised at how small it was when I visited there 20 years ago or so. He originally started building in Florida City, about 10 miles away. Then moved to Homstead and moved the big blocks with him. The hired truck drivers claimed, they would show up, he would send them off for coffee, when they returned, the blocks would be loaded on the flatbed. And he was the only one there.

How did a little old man move huge blocks? Loading and unloading them on flatbeds?

From Wiki: Coral Castle - Wikipedia
He spent more than 28 years building Coral Castle, refusing to allow anyone to view him while he worked.[contradictory] A few teenagers claimed to have witnessed his work, reporting that he had caused the blocks of coral to move like hydrogen balloons.[5][better source needed] The only advanced tool that Leedskalnin spoke of using was a "perpetual motion holder".
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A neighbor lady once said she heard him singing and saw him walking, pushing a coral block that was floating in the air.

Visitors said he had a grid of electrical wires overhead and he did have a giant, home-made hand crank generator (that is still there). I've got some pics I took somewhere, but that was pre-digital, so I'd have to find them and scan them and not going to the hassle because.... :flipoff2: But, there are tons of pictures online of the place.

He also built a sun dial unlike any other sun dial out there, shows time, and date and it is supposedly very accurate.





TLDR - Cliff Notes: There is a monolithic site right here in the USA on a much smaller scale, built by a little old man, by himself. Find out how he moved 30 ton blocks of coral by himself and that is probably how the pyramids and other megalithic structures were built.
 
IowaOffRoad said:
I read this entire thread and I'm struck by a few things...

Is there any room for someone to say "I don't know what the truth is, but this is interesting"?
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Well, this discussion is good enough that my one entry to sidetrack it with mild porn was ineffective :flipoff2:
 
DICKWEED said:

Ancient Egyptian Stone Technology - Lathe Turning - Spirit & Stone

www.theglobaleducationproject.org www.theglobaleducationproject.org
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I watched a 30 min YouTube about the stone block and vase cutting last ight. I'll find and post it when I get back this PM. It was very considered and low key. By that it was not screaming at anyone or anything. Very well thought out and presented. The best part is it did exactly what is clamored for here. It qualified opinion with rational logical explanations. The stone cutter said that the artifacts do not in any way align with what the academics say. My simple question I would pose to the academics and their chisel tech is " where are all the stone chips" ? :idea:
 
An issue with armchair quarterbacking topics like the construction of the pyramids is that one can tend to think of it backwards. "How can they transport and stack a zillion huge stones like that? Can't be explained."

Think it through forwards. Say you are the Pharaoh's GC. Pharaoh want a pyramid, right over there. What do you do?

- "Shitfuck, can only float stones downriver during flood season, so better get enough boats so that we have a backlog of material for the rest of the year."

- "Motherfucker, gonna need to build a ramp. But the ramp would have to be hella long. Maybe we can build the ramp in a circle around it! Wait a minute, if we are doing that, might as well use the pyramid its own self as the ramp! We'll stack it in a circle and we can build portable ramps, cribbing, staging, and whatnot so that each block is lifted one course at a time, all the way to the top."

And so on and so forth. Just like (almost) anyone here can get the job done with the resources at hand and some cleverness, so could they.
 
plym49.2 said:
An issue with armchair quarterbacking topics like the construction of the pyramids is that one can tend to think of it backwards. "How can they transport and stack a zillion huge stones like that? Can't be explained."

Think it through forwards. Say you are the Pharaoh's GC. Pharaoh want a pyramid, right over there. What do you do?

- "Shitfuck, can only float stones downriver during flood season, so better get enough boats so that we have a backlog of material for the rest of the year."

- "Motherfucker, gonna need to build a ramp. But the ramp would have to be hella long. Maybe we can build the ramp in a circle around it! Wait a minute, if we are doing that, might as well use the pyramid its own self as the ramp! We'll stack it in a circle and we can build portable ramps, cribbing, staging, and whatnot so that each block is lifted one course at a time, all the way to the top."

And so on and so forth. Just like (almost) anyone here can get the job done with the resources at hand and some cleverness, so could they.
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I absolutely think that we underestimate the capacity of Man to get stuff done, especially with proper motivation.
Further forward in recorded history, the population of Constantinople rebuild the Theodosian walls in weeks after an earthquake knocked down major portions of them when Attila the Hun was coming, it took years to build them the first time with much less pressure and the manpower of a larger and more prosperous Empire.
The pyramids took decades, and they were basically the only large-scale building project for a (by the times) rich empire coupled with the religious fervor inherent with the project (Ra gonna fuck us up if we fail).
We in modern times think that just because WE can't get it done without millions in heavy equipment and the tech of the 20th/21st century that they couldn't get it done without aliens. Motherfucker, any civilization that can cross deep space wouldn't have taken decades to finish the project and it sure the fuck wouldn't have been built out of sandstone!:flipoff2:
 
These shmucks can't even get the ice age right either. I don't trust what any PHD says about shit anymore. I will stick with common sense / reality. Modern masons admit they can't cut stones that fit as tight as some of these places.

Some dude posted a cartoon video on the other site that tried to explain a lot of this shit away. Like energy vortexes, mekavas, period of darkness, awakening etc.. Had some very interesting and valid points and I will listen to any half-assed theory. Not saying I will believe it but I will listen.
 
DICKWEED said:
These shmucks can't even get the ice age right either. I don't trust what any PHD says about shit anymore. I will stick with common sense / reality. Modern masons admit they can't cut stones that fit as tight as some of these places.

Some dude posted a cartoon video on the other site that tried to explain a lot of this shit away. Like energy vortexes, mekavas, period of darkness, awakening etc.. Had some very interesting and valid points and I will listen to any half-assed theory. Not saying I will believe it but I will listen.
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See, that's a fundamental issue right there. Modern masons do things differently with different resources and instrumentalities.

Example: My grandfather (born in the 1880s) was a mason and general contractor. Never used any sort of power tool in his life. He could plaster a room from the lathe out - 2 scratch coats and 1 final - in no time at all. His walls were billiard-table smooth and corners machinist-square. Modern drywallers look at what he did and say the same thing. They can't do it. But they sure rely on stilts, specialty trowels, and so on - none of which my grandfather had.

Someday someone will be looking at a sheetrock wall with taped seams and say 'how did they do that; we can't do it today'.
 
Give me 100,000 slaves, an unlimited budget and 100 years. I will build you a pyramid.
 
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