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Housing market gonna take a dump in the next year?

Very rare for interest rates to drop and housing prices drop at the same time. If the rates drop, there’s lots of new people in the market driving prices up.

To JR4X, if you are going to stay in that property 7+ years, don’t worry, just buy. I don’t believe there’s been a time in history where property has gone down over 7 years. If you’re not staying 7 years, rent.

I bought a bunch of property in 07-08. In a year, I was underwater bad. I didn’t walk away and it’s all good now.

Bingo. If rates drop and housing values drop significantly at the same time then we're in a very bad overall economy.

The folks who bought at the hight of the housing bubble prior to the crash are now sitting on a shit ton of equity if they stuck it out.
 
Bingo. If rates drop and housing values drop significantly at the same time then we're in a very bad overall economy.

Been a stead decline for 4 years. Covid bucks ran out, inventory is starting to surplus, layoffs starting. Right now the MIC is the only people pocketing.
 
Been a stead decline for 4 years. Covid bucks ran out, inventory is starting to surplus, layoffs starting. Right now the MIC is the only people pocketing.

It's been a steady climb UP around here. Bought my property for $380k three years ago. Valuing at $600k currently.
 
Been a stead decline for 4 years. Covid bucks ran out, inventory is starting to surplus, layoffs starting. Right now the MIC is the only people pocketing.

Austin area has seen these booms and busts several times. I remember back in the dell days around round rock, either you couldn't find anything for sale, or 6 months later you couldn't give it away.
 
It's been a steady climb UP around here. Bought my property for $380k three years ago. Valuing at $600k currently.

Talking about the economy. Not what the government wants to tax you on. You're seeing the result of inflation.

Austin area has seen these booms and busts several times. I remember back in the dell days around round rock, either you couldn't find anything for sale, or 6 months later you couldn't give it away.

I grew up around the dellinaires. Oak bluff/forest creek area is where they all resided. Most were house poor.

People are still going apeshit over Samsung in Taylor. Just like Tesla in del Valle... Del Valle is still a poor shithole, all the execs commute. Which is sad, because it's actually decent land.

Only correlation I see is mass influx of Californians over paying, and people leaving Austin to the suburbs. I don't have a clue what all these fucks clogging the roads do for a living
 
I grew up around the dellinaires. Oak bluff/forest creek area is where they all resided. Most were house poor.

People are still going apeshit over Samsung in Taylor. Just like Tesla in del Valle... Del Valle is still a poor shithole, all the execs commute. Which is sad, because it's actually decent land.

Only correlation I see is mass influx of Californians over paying, and people leaving Austin to the suburbs. I don't have a clue what all these fucks clogging the roads do for a living

My home town is Taylor. We talked at one time about moving back. With the chaos that will occur in the next 10 years there, no way. There is a big real estate company that is going to develop the alcoa land in rockdale and try to entice the workers from these big plants. It's just going to create overbuilding and huge crash in the future, not even related to the covid mess right now.
 
You can get way upside down buying at the wrong time, in 20 or 21 I met a couple that were selling their house, they had bought at the previous peak, 2009, and had been upside down for 12 years, zero equity, unable to move, unable to refinance, 12 years of payments, repairs and maintenance, and nothing to show for it, just the ability to leave without bankruptcy:eek:



Rates are typically dropped to rescue a recession, so you buy the "350k" house in the recession for 250k at a shitty 8% mortgage, then some time goes on, rates are cut and cut and cut to create a boom, house prices are climbing, it's now worth 350k and mortgages are 4.5% so you refi

House prices climb and climb until people can't afford them, can't take on new debt, bankers want to foreclose and become landlords, so they jack the rates, take away the punch bowl, and start all over again. Central banking is for their benefit not ours

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Where? I'm still seeing basically nothing for sale. If it is for sale it is either giraffe pussy high priced or completely clapped the fuck out. Once in a while you can get lucky at an auction and get something decent cheap if the right people are distracted or not paying attention...
North of Albany/upstate NY. If I want to drive 3 or so hours into the outskirts of nyc in Connecticut/Boston/Pa/Jersey the deal gets better but the chances of dealing with “no hablo English” goes up. To my other point about the state work, I’m pretty sure some part of that is due to it being an election year and the theatrics that brings
 
You can get way upside down buying at the wrong time, in 20 or 21 I met a couple that were selling their house, they had bought at the previous peak, 2009, and had been upside down for 12 years, zero equity, unable to move, unable to refinance, 12 years of payments, repairs and maintenance, and nothing to show for it, just the ability to leave without bankruptcy:eek:



Rates are typically dropped to rescue a recession, so you buy the "350k" house in the recession for 250k at a shitty 8% mortgage, then some time goes on, rates are cut and cut and cut to create a boom, house prices are climbing, it's now worth 350k and mortgages are 4.5% so you refi

House prices climb and climb until people can't afford them, can't take on new debt, bankers want to foreclose and become landlords, so they jack the rates, take away the punch bowl, and start all over again. Central banking is for their benefit not ours

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So, I have a question do you believe that we should get rid banks or regulate them more?
 

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So, I have a question do you believe that we should get rid banks or regulate them more?
Sure as shit shouldn't have allowed them to use bailout money to buy up their competition and further concentrate the industry.
 
You can get way upside down buying at the wrong time, in 20 or 21 I met a couple that were selling their house, they had bought at the previous peak, 2009, and had been upside down for 12 years, zero equity, unable to move, unable to refinance, 12 years of payments, repairs and maintenance, and nothing to show for it, just the ability to leave without bankruptcy:eek:

whats it worth now?
 
Sure as shit shouldn't have allowed them to use bailout money to buy up their competition and further concentrate the industry.
I agree with the idea that we shouldn't have allowed the banks to become bigger after 2008. But, I'm just curious what the poster was suggesting we should since the meme he quoted essentially calls for the end of banking systems.
 
My requirements are in this order

Under $350K
County (outside city limits)
No HOA No covenants
Space to park and store vehicles trailers tractors etc
Year round trailer access Ingres egress
Water I don’t have to haul
200 amp electrical service to the pole at least
House that even if needs work, can be lived in
Space for a shop if it doesn’t already have a shop

Looked at a place last night to get a base line at what is on the market and in my price range. As advertised: 2.2 acres. 3 bed 2 bath Double wide house on a real foundation with attached garage . RV spot with full hookup. 30x40 shop with 12 foot walls. a big car port. Several extra sheds buildings etc. Solar setup that’s netting the current owner avg $56 a month check from the electric utility. Good water. Butts up to 65,000 acres of Blm land.

Reality on arrival. Shop is a piece of shit cheap building with only half a cement floor poured. Not weather tight, uninsulated. House isn’t terrible. Only half of the 2.2 acres is usable because half of it is a hill side. Shoddy work over the years by elderly man with lots of time and no money. Propane tank. Neighboring properties absolutely disgusting trashy even to a guy like me.
Beat him up on price and buy that. Thank the neighbors for keeping property values down, hang some billboards as a fence of you don't like to see them
 
North of Albany/upstate NY. If I want to drive 3 or so hours into the outskirts of nyc in Connecticut/Boston/Pa/Jersey the deal gets better but the chances of dealing with “no hablo English” goes up. To my other point about the state work, I’m pretty sure some part of that is due to it being an election year and the theatrics that brings
Upstate has nothing going on. And probably won't for a long time. It's not cool for the progressives like vt. But it's nice country. Just depressed.
 
when has passing additional regulation ever gotten government out of anything

monopolies love regulation, kills market entry
So, why then do monopolies other than so-called natural monopolies fight anti-monopoly regulation tooth and nail? I'm sure AT&T and Standard Oil might not be big fans of anti-trust laws....

 
So, why then do monopolies other than so-called natural monopolies fight anti-monopoly regulation tooth and nail? I'm sure AT&T and Standard Oil might not be big fans of anti-trust laws....
I'm sorry that you're retarded and while there is only one way to fix that
but you do tend to chase away anyone that tries to earnestly discuss anything
 
I'm sorry that you're retarded and while there is only one way to fix that
but you do tend to chase away anyone that tries to earnestly discuss anything
Ah, I see you've lost again... Tell me again how monopolies love regulation?
 
How about we only let banks lend and collect interest on money that exists.

That makes no sense... Since banks have to lend out more money then they have to make the system work. Right? So, your idea would literally destroy any incentive to do banking at all. You might as well put that money in a can and burry it in your lawn.
 
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