gun shots at trump rally

JR4X said:
Did you listen to what he had to say though? Fuck his hair, the secret service is pretty inept if he’s being accurate about what he saw and did.
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Couldn't turn the sound on, I'll try again. But I stand by my statement. Right or wrong.
 
WaterH said:
Question for you long range shooters. They said the distance was 130 yards. I know I can hit a quarter at that distance easy with my rifle, but that’s with a grand worth of scope. I could probably make a head shot with my red dot, but not as confident. I do not consider myself a sharp shooter. Do you guys that do, would it be easy to make a head shot at that distance with iron sights?
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That is not long range shooting. If you've had any practice and decent eyesight shooting that distance with open sights is easy peasy, of course you don't go for the head shot it's always center of mass. When I was a young man our range started at 200 meters, then 300 then 500. And it was with very well used M16A2 rifles with open sights, 200 meters was pretty easy.
 
JR4X said:
You’re on day one of misinformation campaign.I’d give it a week for the Alex Jones’s and the like to have the whole story put together before believing it.
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Sorry friend but that is just hilarious. Sarcasm ? :pinky:
 
While I laugh at all you 5G chemtrail conspiracy retards, I have a real problem with the fact that not only didn't Secret Service have eyes on that rooftop, if not actually having it manned, but also the fact some random dude knew they didn't have eyes on it and was able to climb up there with a rifle 140 yards line of sight from Trump.

This stinks. Stinks really bad.
 
shortbus4x4 said:
That is not long range shooting. If you've had any practice and decent eyesight shooting that distance with open sights is easy peasy, of course you don't go for the head shot it's always center of mass. When I was a young man our range started at 200 meters, then 300 then 500. And it was with very well used M16A2 rifles with open sights, 200 meters was pretty easy.
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You are giving an awful lot of credit to a 20 year old kid. He may not have practiced or shot much before yesterday. He may have only gotten the gun recently. He maybe one of those call of duty basement dwellers (sure looks like it based on the pictures of him) who thinks he’s hot shit for sniping avatars of 12 year olds online and assumed it would be easy to do the real thing in real life.he may not have known it’s always better to go for center mass, so he didn’t even try. Or he may have gone for center mass, but been such a horrible shot he missed spectacularly. Or his elbow slipped and it went high, or a host of other things.
 
Gbkeith said:
Hold up. You’re saying the Big Guy in the Sky intervened in a Devine fashion in such a way that the random bystander died? But Trump, making a mockery of half the Ten Commandments on any given day, comes out looking great?
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Yes.

.. and at the same his people this was happening, thousands of people were being sold into slavery, thousands were being murdered, thousands were getting sexually assaulted, thousands were being tortured, thousands of children were being abused millions were lying,millions were stealing, millions were committing adultery....meh, you get the point.

You think all thats God's doing I guess. You think you're already in heaven I guess. You think we don't have free will I guess.


"The big guy in the sky"? :laughing: Your focus is but a sliver.

Don't fight it. He's real. He loves us all with all our flaws. You think he's happy about all our stupidity on full display? I'll bet he is not. I'll bet he's sad and ashamed.

Ashamed enough to have his only begotten son die a tortured death for every single one if us including Trump, and no matter our belief or sins.


Yes. I'm saying God intervened to protect Trump. Why? I have no idea.
 
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IGT said:
How good are your eyes and how much have you practiced?

Think of being able to zero in on a cherry in the center of a white paper plate at 100 yards.

Most can see the paper plate but the cherry is blurry.
Those with exceptional eyes can zero in on the cherry.

Iron sites at 150 yds and hitting a 3” circle is an exceptional shot.
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Yeah, but you don’t aim at the cherry you can’t see, you aim at the center of the paper plate you can see. He also didn’t say 3” circle. He said head. If you put a balloon out there at 150 yards there are lot of guys that make the shot most of the time.

On a range. I can’t speak for making it after sneaking in and climbing up a roof right before you’re going to get shot. Fewer guys make that shot, but it’s still not impossible. Trumps only alive because he moved his head, after all.
 
found this one on the chins, who knows
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Motorcharge said:


They've really got the best and brightest SS agents defending him. :laughing:
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I've known some highly capable women throughout my different jobs who were just as good as any man or even head and shoulders above.

These ones seem like the chick that got assigned to my cousins ladder truck that can't figure out how to drive the truck, tiller, or operate the ladder. :laughing:
 
Pony_Driver said:
There are some hard core, ignorant posters in this thread. You sound worse than the Arabs (who LOVE a conspiracy theory) about everything being a false flag operation set up by some super squirrely, deep dark part of the government, but your crack ass is ONTO THEM. FFS, one nutjob with a firearm damn near took out a former, and potential future POTUS, because he was fucked in the head. Crazy people do crazy shit. Just like the guy who flew his airplane into the IRS building in TX and killed some poor secretary (registered Democrat) and that crazy eyed dipshit that shot Gabby Giffords (registered Democrat) or that cop that went nuts out in CA, killed some other cops and ran until he holed up and died in a fire (also a registered Democrat). Ole Hinkley wanted to impress Jodi Foster, look how that turned out. No idea WTF his thought process was on that one, but it was far from normal people's thought process.

Stupid and crazy people do stupid and crazy things. It's quite simple. The media spewing constant bullshit and division isn't helping the situation at all.
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Yes you’re right. The lone gunman acts alone every time. Every time. 99% of the time he’s got 3 names too. Don’t ever look further into it or else youre crazy!
 
92 Green YJ said:
You are giving an awful lot of credit to a 20 year old kid. He may not have practiced or shot much before yesterday. He may have only gotten the gun recently. He maybe one of those call of duty basement dwellers (sure looks like it based on the pictures of him) who thinks he’s hot shit for sniping avatars of 12 year olds online and assumed it would be easy to do the real thing in real life.he may not have known it’s always better to go for center mass, so he didn’t even try. Or he may have gone for center mass, but been such a horrible shot he missed spectacularly. Or his elbow slipped and it went high, or a host of other things.
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Or he could have been like little 12yo Jakey that beat me at my PRS match yesterday in which on one stage we shot targets from 650 to 1080, two shots each for a total of 10 in 90 seconds, (not iron sights obviously). He's unusual in that he's got a Dad that is supporting him in this sport like a BMX dad, but if he sticks with it, he'll likely be pro level by 20, probably earlier.

We don't know shit about fuck when it comes to this shooter, maybe he grabbed some white box ammo from Big-5, or maybe he tested and zero'd his rifle for specific ammo, and had DOPE for such, at this point we just don't know.

As far as the SS missing this location, and if hair hat guy is telling the truth and PoPo really did ignore him, then that stinks of a conspiracy.

At this point I see three possibilities.

1. Lone wolf whacko
2. False flag event sponsored by ?
2. Conspiracy to actually assassinate DJT, sponsored by ?
 
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WaterH said:
Question for you long range shooters. They said the distance was 130 yards. I know I can hit a quarter at that distance easy with my rifle, but that’s with a grand worth of scope. I could probably make a head shot with my red dot, but not as confident. I do not consider myself a sharp shooter. Do you guys that do, would it be easy to make a head shot at that distance with iron sights?
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Honestly, it all depends on how that AR was spec'd.

If it were specs closer to the M16A2, with a longer barrel, that shot would be a drop in the bucket and push-ups for anybody in the Army who would miss it. If it were spec'd like an M4, it is less of a drop in the bucket, as the shorter barrel lends to lower accuracy and higher recoil.

Either way, a basic trainee in their first day of BRM should be able to make that shot 90% of the time with the M16 version, and 50% of the time with the M4 version. After a few days of training, they should be hitting at 99% of the time with the M16 and 90% of the time with the M4.
 
WaterH said:
Question for you long range shooters. They said the distance was 130 yards. I know I can hit a quarter at that distance easy with my rifle, but that’s with a grand worth of scope. I could probably make a head shot with my red dot, but not as confident. I do not consider myself a sharp shooter. Do you guys that do, would it be easy to make a head shot at that distance with iron sights?
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Shooting under pressure changes everything


The answer is yes. Totally doable with a weapon you’re familiar with. Add pressure and it’s not likely for most people.
 
Gbkeith said:
Yeah, but you don’t aim at the cherry you can’t see, you aim at the center of the paper plate you can see. He also didn’t say 3” circle. He said head. If you put a balloon out there at 150 yards there are lot of guys that make the shot most of the time.

On a range. I can’t speak for making it after sneaking in and climbing up a roof right before you’re going to get shot. Fewer guys make that shot, but it’s still not impossible. Trumps only alive because he moved his head, after all.
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if it was a balloon, then the ear counts as a hit and the balloon would've popped.

and i'm buying the shot in the vest theory more than i'm buying the "it's his protection detail shirt" theory
 
Boss said:
Yes.

.. and at the same his people this was happening, thousands of people were being sold into slavery, thousands were being murdered, thousands were getting sexually assaulted, thousands were being tortured, thousands of children were being abused millions were lying,millions were stealing, millions were committing adultery....meh, you get the point.

You think all thats God's doing I guess. You think you're already in heaven I guess. You think we don't have free will I guess.


"The big guy in the sky"? :laughing: Your fucus is but a sliver.

Don't fight it. He's real. He loves us all with all our flaws. You think he's happy about all our stupidity on full display? I'll bet he is not. I'll bet he's sad and ashamed.

Ashamed enough to have his only begotten son die a tortured death for every single one if us including Trump, and no matter our belief or sins.


Yes. I'm saying God intervened to protect Trump. Why? I have no idea.
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A lot easier for me to believe that the crazy guy just missed by a few inches. Not that hard to do when trying to head shot a guy who is moving his head.
 
Landslide said:
Anyone else disturbed by how so much information/ videos are being removed everywhere?
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Where are you seeing stuff removed? Msm has moved the goal posts from fireworks at rally and trump falls down with security kerfuffle to assassination attempt. I’ve seen videos get taken down on twitter but they were posted elsewhere on the site.
 
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