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And after reading the petition to recall the head of the secret service that explains why there was like 5 or 6 females around that car I was kind of surprised and some of them being chubby but after reading the recall that explains a ton
 
Stingray said:
Guessing I'm a much better shot out in the desert with my buddies playing expert marksman, than I would be taking a shot at a past and possibly future President :laughing:
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For sure. I shoot at steel targets that don't shoot back, but if someone was committed to do such it's not a stretch to think that they couldn't train themselves to do such a thing, or someone trained them to do such a thing.
 
Roc Doc said:
For sure. I shoot at steel targets that don't shoot back, but if someone was committed to do such it's not a stretch to think that they couldn't train themselves to do such a thing, or someone trained them to do such a thing.
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I also read that the shooter was a 20-year-old male which is kind of interesting he's pretty young
 
LMAO @ anyone thinks a shot like that at 150ish yards is easy in these circumstances. The amount of adrenaline pumping and rush to get shots off before being caught would take even a good shooter from a few inches grouping to a foot or more at best.
 
DT75FLH said:
I also think that by the time he went up to the peak And leveled a rifle ....and tried to get a shot off he had very minimal time before Counter snipers would have seen him and the witness was stating that they were waving and they saw the secret service guys with binoculars looking at them they were trying to point to the roof but I don't think SS had a line of sight On the shooters till he was close up due to the angle of the roof to the shooter...


So I think Trump was very lucky and I think the shooter was probably decent but with his adrenaline dump going up to the peak And trying a head shot with minimal time I think Trump was just very lucky
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My FFL here had a SWAT event in his neighborhood a week or so ago, and he took pics through his spotting scope, :laughing:. One was the overwatch guy with his Desert Tech .308 on a roof peak, totally sky lining himself. Again, no worries about getting fired upon, just up on a hot roof with a good line of sight to the fuckwit that had barricade himself.
 
Alpine4x4 said:
Everyones pappy used to shoot moving deer with open sights at 200yds with old lever actions. Have you ever even shot a rifle? Couldnt even follow up with center mass shots? Remember JFK? Take your usual ignorance elsewhere.
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Oswald likely never hit Kennedy. but it was only like 85 yards....

rockota said:
You believe that jfk’s assassin wasn’t trained with a rifle?

45 was on his way down at second report.
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yes, the mob guys who shot jfk were trained by the CIA

Roc Doc said:
He was trained as a USMC , but used a vastly inferior weapon and the post mortem was full of shit. Oswald was an above average shooter, but his rifle was a POS.
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he was average, and the only kill he made that day was on JD Tibbet with a pistol

Roc Doc said:
Really? The book depository was 260 yards to the motorcade, but it was moving. DJT was standing still.

Next.
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book depository shot was 265 FEET. so 88 yards?

Roc Doc said:
Maybe, or maybe he's like the bastard that shot up LV, that was just a whacko, that knew a bit of something about ballistics. He had dope cards, but I'm highly doubtful that they were as precise as what we use on on out weekend comps, but with that mass of targets it was good enough. RIP
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ol boy never actually shot. someone with a belt fed did so that's all moot
 
Not gonna try to figure out the multi quote thing, but responding to people who quoted my "251 yards instead of 250" and to the apparent official statements that it was outside of security perimeter, the 250 yards was a random number thrown out. I wouldn't doubt a bit that they had some number of meters from target (whatever it may be) security perimeter because it's government. The shooter was outside that number radius so no watch on that roof. Stupid in hindsight sure, but that's government.
As much as I like a good conspiracy, look at our government. They totally fucked the whole Covid deal. Biden can't complete a sentence. They do diversity hires as much as possible. I'd say this was totally a fuck up because people followed some guide book written by some nerd with no field experience and this time it bit them in the ass.
 
SomeGuy said:
LMAO @ anyone thinks a shot like that at 150ish yards is easy in these circumstances. The amount of adrenaline pumping and rush to get shots off before being caught would take even a good shooter from a few inches grouping to a foot or more at best.
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When was the last time you even fired a gun, let alone had one in your hands?
 
SomeGuy said:
LMAO @ anyone thinks a shot like that at 150ish yards is easy in these circumstances. The amount of adrenaline pumping and rush to get shots off before being caught would take even a good shooter from a few inches grouping to a foot or more at best.
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Bullshit. That shot is a cake walk depending on positon. Offhand, sure, prone with a bipod and bag NP. Don't generalize, there are lots of shooters that could make that shot, EB or eargrasze.
 
DT75FLH said:
I also think that by the time he went up to the peak And leveled a rifle ....and tried to get a shot off he had very minimal time before Counter snipers would have seen him and the witness was stating that they were waving and they saw the secret service guys with binoculars looking at them they were trying to point to the roof but I don't think SS had a line of sight On the shooters till he was close up due to the angle of the roof to the shooter...


So I think Trump was very lucky and I think the shooter was probably decent but with his adrenaline dump going up to the peak And trying a head shot with minimal time I think Trump was just very lucky
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Not to mention. You know you will be taken out after the first shot. Maybe there is a calm in that? As to your last point, lucky? Or Devine intervention? I'd argue the latter.
 
Roc Doc said:
Bullshit. That shot is a cake walk depending on positon. Offhand, sure, prone with a bipod and bag NP. Don't generalize, there are lots of shooters that could make that shot, EB or eargrasze.
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your hatred of Trump has you jousting at windmills. don't think this is false flag at all.

just because someone missed its because they missed. ear squib deal is way out there
 
westracing01 said:
Just said shooter was outside security perimeter.
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A sub-150 yard security perimeter around a former POTUS and current major party Presidential candidate at a scheduled appearance? I mean, maybe so but that just seems woefully inadequate. Especially in a rural setting like that. In the downtown of a major city that gets significantly more difficult but this shooter was basically in the spot that any average idiot would go to if you wanted to take a pot shot with a rifle at Trump at this event.
 
Texas97 said:
book depository shot was 265 FEET. so 88 usrdsy?



ol boy never actually shot. someone with a belt fed did so that's all moot
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My bad, you're right, under 100yds. Still doesn't explain the magic non-deforming bullet. I think you and I both believe it was the bullshit cover story of the time.

LV shooting did not involve any belt fed weapons. Fight me.
 
There has been some reports that cheetal the secret service director denied the request to have extra people there to cover a little bit larger perimeter and if you read that recall message that somebody posted the link to it's pretty eye-opening and after reading that I wouldn't doubt it
 
Texas97 said:
your hatred of Trump has you jousting at windmills. don't think this is false flag at all.

just because someone missed its because they missed. ear squib deal is way out there
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Just like any other false flag narrative, it's possible. Do I think it's possible sure, but likely not. Also don't think it's likely a Dem conspiracy, MOST likely whacko.
 
Roc Doc said:
My bad, you're right, under 100yds. Still doesn't explain the magic non-deforming bullet. I think you and I both believe it was the bullshit cover story of the time.

LV shooting did not involve any belt fed weapons. Fight me.
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Exactly he had 16 different rifles with loaded 100 round magazines and some 60 round magazines...and bump stocks ...
 
DT75FLH said:
There has been some reports that cheetal the secret service director denied the request to have extra people there to cover a little bit larger perimeter and if you read that recall message that somebody posted the link to it's pretty eye-opening and after reading that I wouldn't doubt it
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So do we know what the actual perimeter was?
 
WashingtonMatt said:
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A demolition ranch shirt!
 
Roc Doc said:
For sure. I shoot at steel targets that don't shoot back, but if someone was committed to do such it's not a stretch to think that they couldn't train themselves to do such a thing, or someone trained them to do such a thing.
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idk shit about competition shooting, but I'll bet my gentleman's desert skills up against anyone :lmao: I'm half blind and shoot with a low budget home build AR, and the cheapest off the shelf ammo, But you set me up with a 130yrd target in the desert I could wear that F*cker out.

Something is fishy here, Why did I see video of counter sharpshooters looking like they were on target but waited until after shots were fired to engage? why was a clear line of sight shot so blatantly missed? (Missed meaning not taken as a threat) They talk about the perimeter, and the shooter was outside? I try not to fuel the conspiracy, but seriously, It's hard not to. The security perimeter seems like a high school football game.
 
Boss said:
Not to mention. You know you will be taken out after the first shot. Maybe there is a calm in that? As to your last point, lucky? Or Devine intervention? I'd argue the latter.
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Hold up. You’re saying the Big Guy in the Sky intervened in a Devine fashion in such a way that the random bystander died? But Trump, making a mockery of half the Ten Commandments on any given day, comes out looking great?
 
In the black (9 ring) on a 200 yd SR target…

9 ring : 13”
10 ring : 7”
X ring : 3”

You should be in the black with a crap gun and crap ammo at that distance.
 
Texas97 said:
your hatred of Trump has you jousting at windmills. don't think this is false flag at all.

just because someone missed its because they missed. ear squib deal is way out there
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Well yeah but then this thread would be done in 4 pages and everyone would have to fill / waste their time imaging some other non sense.
 
Stingray said:
idk shit about competition shooting, but I'll bet my gentleman's desert skills up against anyone :lmao: I'm half blind and shoot with a low budget home build AR, and the cheapest off the shelf ammo, But you set me up with a 130yrd target in the desert I could wear that F*cker out.

Something is fishy here, Why did I see video of counter sharpshooters looking like they were on target but waited until after shots were fired to engage? why was a clear line of sight shot so blatantly missed? They talk about the perimeter, and the shooter was outside? I try not to fuel the conspiracy, but seriously, It's hard not to. The security perimeter seems like a high school football game.
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How many of these events has there been just the past 12 months?

Obama used to present behind mobile bullet proof clear panels.

Trump isn't about that image
 
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