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Slander said:
I agree with the message, but the actions from round 1 on swamp draining was pretty weak. I mean he had Bolton as an advisor and kept fauchi. The entire deep state already hated him, he should have went ape shit on them.

Before the direction brains start chirping, the fact I merely questioned Trump's 1st term/strategy doesn't mean I have TDS or am a democommie Biden supporter or whatever dumb name you emotional tards come up.
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I agree he should have went ape shit on them. Compared to any other president I would say he did. Can he ramp it up next round using lessons learned? There is only one way to find out.

The point of my post was that something, anything needs to be shoved down the media's and Washington's throat. Trump volunteered, they hate him with a passion so the message is loud and clear. Let's send him.
 
Mr.Ratbastard said:
The point of my post was that something, anything needs to be shoved down the media's and Washington's throat. Trump volunteered, they hate him with a passion so the message is loud and clear. Let's send him.
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Considering the establishmentarians have been trying to torpedo Cheeto Jeebus from before he was elected until years after he left office, he scared the fuck outta' the elitists trying to slide us under the WEF's figurative thumb.

A machine that broken deserves maximum disruption - what's the worst that could happen, Congress grinds to a halt for 4 years? Fuck, sign me up for those consequences :bounce2:

One of the biggest benefits to having that douchebag as POTUS was exposing the cheating and MSM lying to the point even my in-laws are aware of it from their NPR bubble. That & Elon buying TwatterX are the 2 biggest events in the last decade keeping the scam narrative from overwhelming us.

I'm admittedly selfish and nostalgic for the USA being pro-USA, pro-secure borders, pro-domestic manufacturing, and a net exporter of petroleum in a world where Iran, China and the Norks were playing nice and Israel + Palestine were at the negotiating table instead of boosting Raytheon stock. Hell, most people even stopped being paralyzed by choosing a fucking restroom. Yeah, fuck everyone - no apologies, I want that again.

TL/DR: yeah, Trump's a douchebag, but the enemy of my enemies is my friend.
 

Appeals Court Slashes Trump's Bond to $175 Million in $454 Million Civil Fraud Judgment​



















Monday, 25 March 2024 12:36 PM EDT





A New York appeals court Monday agreed to hold off collection of former President Donald Trump's more than $454 million civil fraud judgment — if he puts up $175 million within 10 days.
If he does, it will stop the clock on collection and prevent the state from seizing the presumptive Republican presidential nominee's assets while he appeals. The appeals court also reversed other aspects of a trial judge's ruling that had barred Trump and sons Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. from serving in corporate leadership for several years.
In all, the order was a significant victory for the ex-president as he defends the real estate empire that vaulted him into public life.
"We will abide by the decision of the Appellate Division, and post either a bond, equivalent securities, or cash," Trump wrote in a statement on Truth Social after the ruling. "This also shows how ridiculous and outrageous Engoron's original decision was at $450 Million.
"I did nothing wrong, and New York should never be put in a position like this again. Businesses are fleeing, violent crime is flourishing, and it is very important that this be resolved in its totality as soon as possible."
Earlier this week, Trump's lawyers pleaded for a state appeals court to halt collection, claiming it was "a practical impossibility" to get an underwriter to sign off on a bond for such a large sum.
"We are extremely pleased with the ruling issued by the Appellate Division," Trump's legal spokeswoman wrote in a statement to Newsmax. "This monumental holding reigns in Judge Engoron's verdict, which is an affront to all Americans. This is the first important step in fighting back against Letitia James and her targeted witch hunt against my client which started before she ever stepped foot in office."
The development came just before New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat, was expected to initiate efforts to collect the judgment.
James' office said the judgment still stands while collection is paused.
"Donald Trump is still facing accountability for his staggering fraud. The court has already found that he engaged in years of fraud to falsely inflate his net worth and unjustly enrich himself, his family, and his organization," the office said in a statement.
The Trump attorneys had earlier proposed a $100 million bond, but an appellate judge had said no late last month.
The ruling was issued by the state's intermediate appeals court, the Appellate Division of the state's trial court, where Trump is fighting to overturn a judge's Feb. 16 finding that he lied about his wealth as he built the real estate empire that launched him to stardom and the presidency.
After James won the judgment, she didn't seek to enforce it during a legal time-out for Trump to ask the appeals court for a reprieve from paying up.
That period ended Monday, though James could have decided to allow Trump more time.
James told ABC News last month that if Trump doesn't have the money to pay, she would seek to seize his assets and was "prepared to make sure that the judgment is paid."
She didn't detail the process or specify what holdings she meant, and her office has declined more recently to discuss its plans. Meanwhile, it has filed notice of the judgment, a technical step toward potentially moving to collect.
Seizing assets is a common legal option when someone doesn't have the cash to pay a civil court penalty. In Trump's case, potential targets could include properties such as his Trump Tower penthouse, aircraft, Wall Street office building or golf courses.
The attorney general also could go after his bank and investment accounts. Trump maintained on social media on Friday that he has almost $500 million in cash but intends to use much of it on his presidential run. He has accused James and New York state Judge Arthur Engoron, who's also a Democrat, of seeking "to take the cash away so I can't use it on the campaign."
One possibility would be for James' office to go through a legal process to have local law enforcement seize properties, then seek to sell them off. But that's a complicated prospect in Trump's case, noted Stewart Sterk, a real estate law professor at Cardozo School of Law.
"Finding buyers for assets of this magnitude is something that doesn't happen overnight," he said, noting that at any ordinary auction, "the chances that people are going to be able to bid up to the true value of the property is pretty slim."
Trump's debt stems from a monthslong civil trial last fall over the state's allegations that he, his company and top executives vastly puffed up his wealth on financial statements, conning bankers and insurers who did business with him. The statements valued his penthouse for years as though it were nearly three times its actual size, for example.
Trump and his co-defendants denied any wrongdoing, saying the statements actually lowballed his fortune, came with disclaimers and weren't taken at face value by the institutions that lent to or insured him. The penthouse discrepancy, he said, was simply a mistake made by subordinates.
Engoron sided with the attorney general and ordered Trump to pay $355 million, plus interest that grows daily. Some co-defendants, including his sons and company executive vice presidents, Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, were ordered to pay far smaller amounts. Monday's ruling also puts those on hold if the $175 million bond is posted.
Under New York law, filing an appeal generally doesn't hold off enforcement of a judgment. But there's an automatic pause if the person or entity posts a bond that covers what's owed.
The ex-president's lawyers have said it's impossible for him to do that. They said underwriters wanted 120% of the judgment and wouldn't accept real estate as collateral. That would mean tying up over $557 million in cash, stocks and other liquid assets, and Trump's company needs some left over to run the business, his attorneys have said.
Trump's attorneys asked an appeals court to freeze collection without his posting a bond. The attorney general's office objected.
 
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No signature verification on 2020 Fulton County ballots? | FreePressers

Mark Wingate, who served on the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, testified on Monday that there was no ...
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Mark Wingate, who served on the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, testified on Monday that there was no signature verification done on Fulton County absentee ballots in the 2020 election.

Wingate is testifying in the D.C. disbarment trial of Trump Administration Department of Justice official Jeffrey Clark.

The Fulton County 2020 election should never have been certified because there was no signature verification done at all on absentee ballots, he said.

Joe Biden reportedly won Georgia by about 12,000 votes.

Wingate said he voted not to certify the 2020 election twice, adding that what concerned him was there were more voters on the active rolls than eligible, which continued after the 2020 election, and nothing was done to answer his questions about it. He requested chain of custody documentation and it was never turned over to him.

Another reason Wingate said he voted against certifying the vote was he asked for surveillance footage of drop boxes and not a single bit of footage was ever turned over to him.

A third reason he voted against certification, Wingate said, is because he'd asked for more information about the ballots that were seen on video being brought out from under tables, was told he'd receive it, and never did.

Wingate also testified that a hand count carried out after the election found a 700-800 vote difference from the certified count. A second machine count also came up with a significantly different number, he said.
 
Deuce 40s said:
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No signature verification on 2020 Fulton County ballots? | FreePressers

Mark Wingate, who served on the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, testified on Monday that there was no ...
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Mark Wingate, who served on the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, testified on Monday that there was no signature verification done on Fulton County absentee ballots in the 2020 election.

Wingate is testifying in the D.C. disbarment trial of Trump Administration Department of Justice official Jeffrey Clark.

The Fulton County 2020 election should never have been certified because there was no signature verification done at all on absentee ballots, he said.

Joe Biden reportedly won Georgia by about 12,000 votes.

Wingate said he voted not to certify the 2020 election twice, adding that what concerned him was there were more voters on the active rolls than eligible, which continued after the 2020 election, and nothing was done to answer his questions about it. He requested chain of custody documentation and it was never turned over to him.

Another reason Wingate said he voted against certifying the vote was he asked for surveillance footage of drop boxes and not a single bit of footage was ever turned over to him.

A third reason he voted against certification, Wingate said, is because he'd asked for more information about the ballots that were seen on video being brought out from under tables, was told he'd receive it, and never did.

Wingate also testified that a hand count carried out after the election found a 700-800 vote difference from the certified count. A second machine count also came up with a significantly different number, he said.
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And the media....crickets.
 
NO signature verification.....

NO chain of custody documents........

NO surveillance video footage.......

NO info on votes pulled out from under the table and counted multiple times.....

In some sick way is this why Barr said there was NO evidence of voter fraud??!?
 
[486] said:
why?
texas has a long and storied blue voting gun grabbing past

Inb4 'the parties were switched back then'
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Parties never switched, but if Biden somehow wins in TX after his open borders hurting their state, I think Texans will call his bluff, or at least I would hope they would.
 
I am hoping that President Trump's 1st term was him taking it a bit easy because he needed enough votes to get in again in 2020. He doesn't have to worry about that this go around so he can take the gloves off and scorch the earth.
 
[486] said:
why?
texas has a long and storied blue voting gun grabbing past

Inb4 'the parties were switched back then'
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blue voting yes, but not gun grabbing. Dems started that in the early 90s which is why TX hasn't elected a statewide Dem in 30 years.

prior to 1994, Dems would have never campaigned on anti gun legislation.
 
[486] said:
texas has a long and storied blue voting gun grabbing past
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And general blind deference to authority for the last century or so. If that guy with the thin blue line flag beside the no step flag was a state that state would be texas.
 
45acp said:
Not saying it will happen now... but I've been claiming over a decade Texas will be the next Colorado. Everyone forgets how it wasn't that long ago Colorado was Reagan central.

Think about how many coastal libs have flooded TX since '20. It's getting close to the tipping point.
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Agree, and GA is a few steps ahead..
 
45acp said:
Not saying it will happen now... but I've been claiming over a decade Texas will be the next Colorado. Everyone forgets how it wasn't that long ago Colorado was Reagan central.

Think about how many coastal libs have flooded TX since '20. It's getting close to the tipping point.
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ive said it here before and ill say it again. ive been fed that line of bullshit since i was in grade school.

back when Beto was running, it wasnt the transplants, it was always the home grown indoctrinated. They proved that with the voting data then.

Everyone in the country is rooting for Texas demise because misery loves company and pure jealousy, but recent voting trends are not supporting Texas turning blue.

Trump in 2020 swung traditional dem strongholds along the border by 20%. now, he didnt win them, but instead of losing those counties by 25% he only lost by 5%. Couple that with a harbinger that in 2022, Republicans took the 15th congressional district, deep Rio Grand Valley and also took the Mayor of McAllen?

yeah its not as "Dems are going to flip it" as they want it to be.
 
Texas97 said:
oh great and know-it-all Oz, tell me the way the wind blows in Texas from your Ivory Tower in NJ/Mass/NY!
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Read the thread. I already said it. Y'all are boot lickers. That's why it took you so long to go constitutional carry. You simply didn't see the issue with asking the .gov for permission because you're ok with the book. That's a real dangerous tendency and it's gonna fuck you.

Texas isn't gonna flip but the local republicans are gonna adopt all sorts of anti-freedom policies to cater to the leftists you've been happy to import, most people will be fine with it because that's your culture and after a decade or two it's gonna be a distinction without a difference.
 
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Texas97 said:
ive said it here before and ill say it again. ive been fed that line of bullshit since i was in grade school.

back when Beto was running, it wasnt the transplants, it was always the home grown indoctrinated. They proved that with the voting data then.

Everyone in the country is rooting for Texas demise because misery loves company and pure jealousy, but recent voting trends are not supporting Texas turning blue.

Trump in 2020 swung traditional dem strongholds along the border by 20%. now, he didnt win them, but instead of losing those counties by 25% he only lost by 5%. Couple that with a harbinger that in 2022, Republicans took the 15th congressional district, deep Rio Grand Valley and also took the Mayor of McAllen?

yeah its not as "Dems are going to flip it" as they want it to be.
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I genuinely hope you're right and I'm wrong. I'm native Texan. My birth certificate has the yellow rose on one side and lithograph of Sam Houston stabbing a Mexican on the other. Even though I moved and live a few miles away, that's still my home. Most of my family lives there... El Paso, Houston, Victoria, Port Lavaca, etc. etc.

I'm 98% sure I'm right and you're wrong.
 
45acp said:
I genuinely hope you're right and I'm wrong. I'm native Texan. My birth certificate has the yellow rose on one side and lithograph of Sam Houston stabbing a Mexican on the other. Even though I moved and live a few miles away, that's still my home. Most of my family lives there... El Paso, Houston, Victoria, Port Lavaca, etc. etc.

I'm 98% sure I'm right and you're wrong.
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maybe.

but like i said, 1992-1994, they were CERTAIN Texas would be really blue by the turn of the century.

then it was Wendy Davis was going to defeat Wheels for governor "best chance they've had in decades". She got rolled by nearly 20%, pun intended.
 
Texas97 said:
maybe.

but like i said, 1992-1994, they were CERTAIN Texas would be really blue by the turn of the century.

then it was Wendy Davis was going to defeat Wheels for governor "best chance they've had in decades". She got rolled by nearly 20%, pun intended.
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I'm thinking covid coastal transplants, Austin revitalization, and the fact that every town with population over 50k is full of purple haired housecat pretender tranny kids just waiting to get old enough to vote... its gone over the edge soon.

I admit I'm negative to my very core and most of my predictions steer towards the worst case scenario. I really hope I can add this to the giant list of things I've been wrong about.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Read the thread. I already said it. Y'all are boot lickers. That's why it took you so long to go constitutional carry. You simply didn't see the issue with asking the .gov for permission because you're ok with the book.

Texas isn't gonna flip but the local republicans are gonna adopt all sorts of anti-freedom policies to cater to the leftists you've been happy to import, most people will be fine with it because that's your culture and after a decade or two it's gonna be a distinction without a difference.
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how's that MA constitutional carry working out for ya?
 
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