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Georgia House votes to require watermarks on election ballots​



BY JEFF AMY
Updated 9:52 AM MST, January 31, 2024
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ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia voters could see a watermark on their ballot beginning in November, a move Republican supporters said would assure citizens that their ballots are authentic.
The House on Wednesday voted 167-1 for House Bill 976, sending it to the Senate for more debate.
“It will bring more confidence from our people who vote, and it’s something we need to restore.” said Rep. Steve Tarvin, a Chickamauga Republican.
Georgia ballots are already printed on special security paper, under a law passed in 2021 after Georgia’s disputed 2020 presidential election. But a laser wand is required to detect the paper. And some Trump supporters continue to pursue claims that ballots in 2020 were forged, especially in Fulton County, despite investigators repeatedly failing to find any.

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger supports the measure, with his chief operating officer, Gabe Sterling, telling a House committee earlier this month that a machine to stamp watermarks on the ballot would cost the state about $100,000, and not increase the current cost to counties of 13 cents per ballot.


“This is a low-cost, high-value measure,” said House Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman John LaHood, a Valdosta Republican.
Sterling said the secretary of state’s office believes the measure is more important for absentee ballots sent through the mail, saying ballots produced in polling places never leave the supervision of poll workers.
The bill would take effect July 1. Counties could use up un-watermarked ballot paper now on hand in March and May elections, Sterling said.
Lawmakers are also considering other election measures. One would require that bar codes be removed from ballots produced by Georgia’s electronic voting system. Opponents say voters can’t be sure the computer codes match the choices printed on their ballots. Raffensperger has said he supports a move to scan “human readable text,” the names printed on ballots, to count votes. But he has said it’s impossible to make such a change before the November presidential election.
Another measure would require two after-election audits of ballots to make sure results matched what machines counted. A third measure would make permanent a program requiring scans of ballots be released for public inspection.

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JEFF AMY
 
If Raffenperger is for it then he has some way to bypass it.....

Is he going to have access to the watermark machine??
 
I'll take that bet. What do you have to wager ?

Edit: Monkey snuck in ahead of me. :flipoff2:
How about we bet whether or not there are more ballots cast than legal registered voters? You know like what happened in 2020. Allegedly half the US population vited in 2020, over 150 million. Anyone who claims that was a legitimate election is a fool. I wont say who cheated but someone certainly did.
 
How about we bet whether or not there are more ballots cast than legal registered voters? You know like what happened in 2020. Allegedly half the US population vited in 2020, over 150 million. Anyone who claims that was a legitimate election is a fool. I wont say who cheated but someone certainly did.

No thanks. Your wager is reasonable so, no dice. I take sure bets and I dont have anything Orphan Annie. I will put my Gumby and Pokey against it. See ya in November Mr Nahmus :flipoff2:
 
But fraud doesn’t exist….

In that story, they are convicting her for fraud in 2022. They don’t mention if she held that post in 2020.
 
But fraud doesn’t exist….

Proof that only republicans and white supremecists commit election fraud. More reason why Dems need permanent power to root out this behavior.


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Proof that only republicans and white supremecists commit election fraud. More reason why Dems need permanent power to root out this behavior.


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She was a democrat. If you read the story, she sent fake ballots to a republican, hoping that he would use them. He instead reported her. She said she did it to show a flaw in the system. You can bet she used that flaw many times in 2020.
 
She was a democrat. If you read the story, she sent fake ballots to a republican, hoping that he would use them. He instead reported her. She said she did it to show a flaw in the system. You can bet she used that flaw many times in 2020.
Your reading comprehension is for shit, ese :homer:

Adams also insisted that Zapata intentionally sent the ballots to Brandtjen, a Republican who questioned Joe Biden's electoral victory in Wisconsin in 2020, because she knew Brandtjen would never actually use them.
It appears she did that to expose the liability - she sent the fake ballots to a Republican who would use them as proof of the problem.


EDIT: here - Former election commission deputy director in Wisconsin found guilty of election fraud
CORTNEY WEIL
MARCH 21, 2024



Aformer deputy director of an election commission in Wisconsin faces years behind bars after she was convicted of election fraud and misconduct earlier this week.
A jury took about five hours on Wednesday to find Kimberly Zapata, the 47-year-old former deputy director of the Milwaukee Election Commission, guilty on all four charges: one count of felony misconduct in public office and three counts of misdemeanor election fraud.
According to prosecutors, in October 2022, Zapata used phony names and Social Security numbers to create three fake members of the military and then requested absentee ballots on their behalf, taking advantage of Wisconsin law, which does not require service members to register to vote or to provide photo ID when requesting an absentee ballot.
After the absentee ballots were approved, Zapata apparently had them sent to the home of Republican state Rep. Janel Brandtjen in Menomonee Falls, a Milwaukee suburb. Upon receiving the unsolicited ballots, Brandtjen notified the authorities, and Zapata was later fired.

The defense did not dispute those facts but claimed Zapata's motives for requesting the ballots ought to exonerate her. Attorney Daniel Adams claimed Zapata is "a whistleblower" who attempted to expose a serious flaw in state election procedures.
"She was showing ... the truth with an action — an imperfect action but a truthful action — of what was going on,"
Adams argued in court.
Adams also insisted that Zapata intentionally sent the ballots to Brandtjen, a Republican who questioned Joe Biden's electoral victory in Wisconsin in 2020, because she knew Brandtjen would never actually use them.
"[Brandtjen] is the most vocal election fraud politician that I know of," Zapata said at some point, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, "and I thought that maybe this would make her stop and think and redirect her focus away from these outrageous conspiracy theories to something that's actually real."
"She is not a whistleblower," countered Assistant District Attorney Matthew Westphal. "She’s not exposing information. She’s committing election fraud. As a society, we cannot tolerate people who break the law when there are multiple legitimate means to raise those same concerns."
It seems the jury agreed, and Zapata now faces up to five years in prison. She and her attorney both declined to comment after the verdict.
 
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