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Ford 2.7 vs 3.5 vs. 5.0

DMG said:
I just bought a 2018 ccsb F150 with the 5.0/10 speed. 100k on it, hit light in the front and a big dent in one door. I was happy to find a 6 passenger with the fold down console thing. Wish it was the 6.5 foot bed.


Supposedly these things are quick as hell and tow well with the 10 speed. It has big shoes to fill, replacing my 1st Gen tundra.
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Boooooooooooo!

Turbos or go home :flipoff2:
 
Boons said:
This brings up a point I've wondered about aloominum trucks. How are they holding up in the real world? Did they do a decent job of insulating steel hardware from anything aluminum and are the wheel wells/rockers getting beat to shit by gravel or do they have decent liners?
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I bet I have more miles in these aluminum trucks than anyone else around here, and it’s all work truck abuse. I live in rust free land so can’t comment on that part, literally the only thing that rust affects here are international scouts. Otherwise they’re holding up good to the life of abuse I put them through. There is one hole stabbed through the bed floor of the one I’m driving now that I don’t know how it happened. I think the aluminum is a lot more dent resistant Than the steel versions are.
 
Boons said:
This brings up a point I've wondered about aloominum trucks. How are they holding up in the real world? Did they do a decent job of insulating steel hardware from anything aluminum and are the wheel wells/rockers getting beat to shit by gravel or do they have decent liners?
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Bought my 15 3.5 ccrb xlt in 20 with 85k miles?

I'm at 213k miles. Work truck, about 600lbs in the bed day in day out. Gravel, construction sites, dumps, curbs, farms etc. This is iowa, so salt in winter.

No corrosion, no paint chips, no weird steel-aluminum issues. Manifold gasket and throttle body are all I've had to do.

Biggest complaint was the doors, getting used to shutting them from the outside (leaving the truck) was weird for a bit. Weight was off
 
Trackerbacker(fvckvs) said:
Bought my 15 3.5 ccrb xlt in 20 with 85k miles?

I'm at 213k miles. Work truck, about 600lbs in the bed day in day out. Gravel, construction sites, dumps, curbs, farms etc. This is iowa, so salt in winter.

No corrosion, no paint chips, no weird steel-aluminum issues. Manifold gasket and throttle body are all I've had to do.

Biggest complaint was the doors, getting used to shutting them from the outside (leaving the truck) was weird for a bit. Weight was off
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If you're like me it was probably more the fact that the cab is actually air right vs my old junk having plenty of areas for the pressure to escape :laughing:

Then you accidentally slam the door whenbthe windowsare open :homer:
 
Anyone else have issues with the windshield wiper jets freezing when it’s single digits? My only bitches with the aluminum f150 are still only at the truck not at the hamster cage 2.7 that is honestly on par with the 7.3 diesels I’ve had in the past power wise
 
Mine do that sometimes but mines older. Usually they will thaw out after the engine gets warmed up.
 
Fullsize80cherokee said:
Anyone else have issues with the windshield wiper jets freezing when it’s single digits? My only bitches with the aluminum f150 are still only at the truck not at the hamster cage 2.7 that is honestly on par with the 7.3 diesels I’ve had in the past power wise
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Use the pink washer fluid that freezes at a higher temp? Many cars around here have frozen nozzles at temps 0 or lower.
 
I had a 5.0 mustang on a business trip in the mountains in the snow. :homer: jets froze up instantly and never thawed out. It was 5 degF.

Don't buy a red 5.0 2019 mustang. I ABUSED that fucker in track mode for a week to survive the snow. Kind of fun:lmao::lmao:
 
DMG said:
back in the days when a truck motor might have been designed that way. Now the manufacturer just assumes it will be on duty all the time.
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They've been running shit WOT for days and days on end since at least the early days of the 4.whatever Modular that debuted in the early 90s. Of course they also do stupid shit like run it up to boiling and then flip a valve and pump -20 coolant into it during that time.

There's a guy over on FSP who talks about the testing process from time to time. He worked on the ignition/knock detection system.

I assume other OEMs have similar testing procedures.
 
arse_sidewards said:
They've been running shit WOT for days and days on end since at least the early days of the 4.whatever Modular that debuted in the early 90s. Of course they also do stupid shit like run it up to boiling and then flip a valve and pump -20 coolant into it during that time.

There's a guy over on FSP who talks about the testing process from time to time. He worked on the ignition/knock detection system.

I assume other OEMs have similar testing procedures.
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Vehicles have really come a long ways. My tundra and super duty just make more noise and use more fuel with a load behind them, even in the mountains. It doesn’t feel like abuse, they don’t heat up or anything. And they are a generation behind.


I remember towing heavy with 70s and 80s junk. When you stopped for gas you smelled hot brakes, oil, coolant, atf and gear oil.
 
DMG said:
I remember towing heavy with 70s and 80s junk. When you stopped for gas you smelled hot brakes, oil, coolant, atf and gear oil.
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You probably weren't towing with them when they were as new and nice as your current trucks are now.
 
DMG said:
Some were, some weren’t. They were always well maintained. A 70s or 80s truck with a smog carb, non lockup 3 speed auto, etc sucked when it was new.
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Not like you had better options back then. It's not like a MDT that used the same big-block drive-train with maybe a 5spd instead of the auto would be much faster. A 3spd auto is fine if that's all you know. We're spoiled by single and double ODs that let us cruise at 1500rpm at 70.

The power and brakes (mostly just a result of bigger rotors, bigger calipers and more booster) modern stuff has is amazing. Everything else is mostly a reflection of age and condition.
 
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arse_sidewards said:
Not like you had better options back then. It's not like a MDT that used the same big-block drive-train with maybe a 5spd instead of the auto would be much faster. A 3spd auto is fine if that's all you know. We're spoiled by single and double ODs that let us cruise at 1500rpm at 70.

The power and brakes (mostly just a result of bigger rotors, bigger calipers and more booster) modern stuff has is amazing. Everything else is mostly a reflection of age and condition.
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We are talking a 30-40 year difference in technology. In the same way, towing with a 1950s 1 ton truck then going to a 1970s 1 ton, would seem a huge leap in technology!
 
2019 5.0 and i have put 86000 on it, tow a 16 foot trailer and my buggy, anything form 11-14 towing depending on wind and hills, did a shit ton of commuting to work, hour each way, comfortable, good interior layout, i only do like 67-68 while towing. i absolutely love it. STX model is one step up from XL but thats the cats meow, no carpet, just a rubber floor too easy to clean. especially with snow
 
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It's an XLT with console. Magma Red Metallic with towing package and electric locker.
 
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It's an XLT with console. Magma Red Metallic with towing package and electric locker.
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Lunch at 99s, no love for the locals at Village? Did they have that truck across the street? Looks sharp.
 
Truck needs tires, so ordered a leveling kit. Also seat covers and all weather mats. Messy-ass kid.

Debating bronze methods on 35s, or stockers on 35s.
 
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