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Fasting - Who does it?

I first tried it a few years ago. Have done it on and off ever since. I never could ratio it out, so I just ate whatever I wanted, one meal per 24hrs. My body was trained to not be hungry all of the time, so sometimes I'd forget to eat if I was busy on a project. Always feels great once you're used to it. It is fascinating how little food is required for us to survive, and still feel good.
 
Poke said:
I understand the basic concept, I just don’t get why be uncomfortable like that when you can eat healthy and workout. What are the benefits over the basics. On the surface this seems like any other fad health thing.
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I believe that staying "in shape" is more about your food intake than going to the gym.

I skip every breakfasts during the week, then skip every lunch during the weekends. Always eat at specific times and almost never snack.

It has done really well for me.
 
I'm on my 3rd week of 21 hour fast and 3 hour eating window. I eat what I want on the weekends. The cool thing is my Grehlin response (hunger) is on a switch that I seem to control. Even after eating what I want on the weekend I flip the mental switch and Monday I'm not hungry all day.

Body is changing a bit. It would be better if I eat cleanly and don't blow off the weekends.
 
this thread inspired me to give it a shot - been doing it for a month now and i've lost about 15ish lbs. wasn't crazy overweight (235 at 6'1) but i'd like to be around 200. I've been as heavy as 260 and then got on keto and dropped down to 209 before Rona hit and i started boredom eating - got back up to 245ish, got the Vid in Sept 21 and lost 10 lbs. That got me thinking about fasting as i could barely stomach eating more than one meal a day, plus this thread. I do the 18-6 mostly, sometimes i'll go 24plus especially if i'm busy and active, i'm rarely ever hungry anymore.
 
Poke said:
So its all about body fat percentage? I am open to it. Just want to hear the why, postive, and negative results. I trust the feedback here more than google, as I should.
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Easy to do and it gets results. My old work schedule lent itself to it perfectly since lunch wasn't until 11 am all I had to do was not eat breakfast and then finish dinner before 7 pm and the weight started dropping.

It wasn't uncomfortable at all.
 
DWT said:
Easy to do and it gets results. My old work schedule lent itself to it perfectly since lunch wasn't until 11 am all I had to do was not eat breakfast and then finish dinner before 7 pm and the weight started dropping.

It wasn't uncomfortable at all.
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There's much to it, but let's start with Ghrelin. It's a gut hormone which activates its receptor, growth hormone secretagogue receptor (GHS-R). Ghrelin's notable functions are stimulation for food intake, fat deposition and growth hormone release.

Blah, blah, blah.....what does that mean?
Well, you can't get fat or likely stay fat without Ghrelin present. By training your body to refuse hunger the Ghrelin release diminishes. It also works by the clock. My body currently knows that we eat in the evening. You guessed it - I fucking starve on the way home from work because my brain knows what's up. It's fucking Pavlovian.

Personally, I like the control I'm having over these desires.
 
I am back on the wagon. weighed all time high Monday night 197.2 @ 5' 8"

No food until dinner at 6, its all mental for me.
I really like eating. I like the comradery of eating with other people.
If I can keep busy at work its much easier.
 
rugger said:
There's much to it, but let's start with Ghrelin. It's a gut hormone which activates its receptor, growth hormone secretagogue receptor (GHS-R). Ghrelin's notable functions are stimulation for food intake, fat deposition and growth hormone release.

Blah, blah, blah.....what does that mean?
Well, you can't get fat or likely stay fat without Ghrelin present. By training your body to refuse hunger the Ghrelin release diminishes. It also works by the clock. My body currently knows that we eat in the evening. You guessed it - I fucking starve on the way home from work because my brain knows what's up. It's fucking Pavlovian.

Personally, I like the control I'm having over these desires.
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Funny thing is I was rarely hungry except right before lunch. Dinner I was hungry but my stomach wasn't rumbling and making a racket. These days I get hungry as fawk and tend to graze. 🤦
 
I've done the 18/6 weekdays fasting for a long time. Started about 4 years ago. I dropped from 215-192 doing it (5'9") I've tracking calories for about 5 years now and started to stall out weight loss after 1 year, so I picked up the IF mentality from my wife's cousin. He is ripped and does it, yet when I see him on the weekends, he certainly doesn't hold back on food/beer/whatever. It worked pretty quickly and I had more energy. I maintained it for almost 3 years. I sort of got sloppy and started grazing more and more and more. Rona isolation didn't help. I weighed 205 in Sept 21...but my worst was 227 back in 2015 or so. I got back on it in Nov....but I've struggled keeping up with it during the holidays...weight 202 on Christmas morning. A light switched flipped and since right after Christmas I've been back on it. I feel better again and have more energy. I haven't weight myself for a while...but I would expect to see about 198 or so at this point.
 
Ted_Kaczynski said:
I last snacked on beef jerky at 2000 last night. I am going to see how long I can go. I've had black coffee this morning, assuming that's OK since tea seems to be?
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Depends on how hard you want to be. :flipoff2: To get the most health wise; water only, then coffee, then cream with coffee/bone broth. Allegedly.


Fat loss I've read you're ok with cream in coffee and bone broth, I think the recommendation was keep total calories under 350. :smokin:
 
So how’s a guy start out ? What if you paired it with keto diet? I was down to 206 in winter of 2020 then got to 215 all last year . Over this winter I’ve gotten back up to my previous high of 229. I felt really really good at 206 really a huge confidence boost . I got discouraged with just keto.
 
I'm over 24 hours in. I got hungry as fuck this afternoon, an hour later my glucose slammed. My hands were jittery. I made myself some green tea and once I got past that I'm good. I'm actually pretty focused right now and feel like i could go for a dangerously long time. The hunger is transformed into some type of rewarding energy.

We'll see.

I'm also refraining from masterbation during this time period :laughing:.
 
Ima start tomorrow as I am gettin' roto rooter'd on Friday morning :barf:
I really want to lose about 25 lbs, I'm 6-2, 260 ish, 62 years old, 5 left knee operations, one heart attack (2014) and a herniated disc in my lower back. I'm a carpenter by trade, been doing finish work in a new home for the last three weeks. Still building grapples too.
One problem point is that I get home from work about 4 and the wife doesn't get home until around 5:45 so I graze, mostly out of boredom. I'm too whipped to do much after work.
 
Leadfoot21 said:
So how’s a guy start out ? What if you paired it with keto diet? I was down to 206 in winter of 2020 then got to 215 all last year . Over this winter I’ve gotten back up to my previous high of 229. I felt really really good at 206 really a huge confidence boost . I got discouraged with just keto.
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Just go for it. I drink water and an occasional hot tea with stevia to appease myself. Start with a 20 hour fast. I like to eat in the evenings. So, you will have from 3pm to 9pm to eat. The cleaner you eat the better. Do a modified keto. Have up to 3 cups of green veges. Have a piece of fruit. You likely won't be over 1200 calories and you'll be stuffed. Then fast until your eat time the next day.
 
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I am in I guess. Going for the lifestyle type of fast. Starting with a 12/12 regiment (is that too low of a start?), which is very close to my normal. My normal is 10pm-7:30am. Next week I intend to shift to 10p-12 for a 14/10 weekdays... then just slowly see where I settle in at. I drink till 10 or later every night so that easy to just stop. this will give me a reason to not grab a 3rd beer or bourbon and if I change it to a 9pm - noon next month I'll be at 15/9 which seems reasonable and not too uncomfortable if I work up to it 5 days a week.

So I am rowing 20-25 min a day. Does the timing of it matter or is there a better time? work out at end of fast? only after eating? before fast?
 
Poke said:
I am in I guess. Going for the lifestyle type of fast. Starting with a 12/12 regiment (is that too low of a start?), which is very close to my normal. My normal is 10pm-7:30am. Next week I intend to shift to 10p-12 for a 14/10 weekdays... then just slowly see where I settle in at. I drink till 10 or later every night so that easy to just stop. this will give me a reason to not grab a 3rd beer or bourbon and if I change it to a 9pm - noon next month I'll be at 15/9 which seems reasonable and not too uncomfortable if I work up to it 5 days a week.

So I am rowing 20-25 min a day. Does the timing of it matter or is there a better time? work out at end of fast? only after eating? before fast?
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I wouldn't really consider 12/12 a fast. One could eat dinner at 6 pm and breakfast at 6am and that's 12/12. Say fuckit, get mentally strong, drink plenty of water and go 18 with a 6 hour eating window.
 
What are the thoughts on a longer fast once a week instead of intermittent fasting every day? I tried intermittent fasting a couple years ago and it didn't go much for me. Reading this thread I am considering trying a 24 hour fast once a week. Any benefits to a longer fast other than just not eating the calories?
 
rugger said:
I wouldn't really consider 12/12 a fast. One could eat dinner at 6 pm and breakfast at 6am and that's 12/12. Say fuckit, get mentally strong, drink plenty of water and go 18 with a 6 hour eating window.
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That’s why I asked. My doc said most fail jumping into a daily fast because they start too long and don’t work up to it. I was told to be successful, ease in.
 
Poke said:
That’s why I asked. My doc said most fail jumping into a daily fast because they start too long and don’t work up to it. I was told to be successful, ease in.
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I think that it depends. Easing in doesn't work for me. I'm either doing something or not. The pain is about two days long if you just go to one short eating window.
 
rugger said:
I think that it depends. Easing in doesn't work for me. I'm either doing something or not. The pain is about two days long if you just go to one short eating window.
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Thank you. This is very positive for me because I will stop my drinking window at night earlier and earlier. I won’t do that because I should drink less but if it’s part of a program, I will
 
Careful dieting so hard without weight training.
As we get older, we naturally retain less and less muscle mass without stimulation from weight training. Throw in a hard calorie deficit and your losing it quick. As you lose muscle, your metabolic rate drops. I say this having seen alot of guys who "lost 30 lbs" walking around skinny fat with sticks for arms cause they also shed 10 lbs of lean mass.. These guys also tend to get hurt easily, joint pains, back pain etc from being so frail. If they look at food the wrong way they gain weight.

I little bit of effective weight training goes a long way burning calories when your not weight training.
 
Ted_Kaczynski said:
I made it 36 hours. 48 hours won't be a problem. Thinking of trying for 72 hours to see if I have the discipline.
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So not eating, not feeding the geese or both? :flipoff2:
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Poke said:
I am in I guess. Going for the lifestyle type of fast. Starting with a 12/12 regiment (is that too low of a start?), which is very close to my normal. My normal is 10pm-7:30am. Next week I intend to shift to 10p-12 for a 14/10 weekdays... then just slowly see where I settle in at. I drink till 10 or later every night so that easy to just stop. this will give me a reason to not grab a 3rd beer or bourbon and if I change it to a 9pm - noon next month I'll be at 15/9 which seems reasonable and not too uncomfortable if I work up to it 5 days a week.

So I am rowing 20-25 min a day. Does the timing of it matter or is there a better time? work out at end of fast? only after eating? before fast?
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Workouts will suck until you get used to it, just workout when you normally would.

I was going to bitch out on exercise yesterday but nutted up because of this thread and got a 45 minute trainer ride in. :smokin:
 
Levigarrett76 said:
Careful dieting so hard without weight training.
As we get older, we naturally retain less and less muscle mass without stimulation from weight training. Throw in a hard calorie deficit and your losing it quick. As you lose muscle, your metabolic rate drops. I say this having seen alot of guys who "lost 30 lbs" walking around skinny fat with sticks for arms cause they also shed 10 lbs of lean mass.. These guys also tend to get hurt easily, joint pains, back pain etc from being so frail. If they look at food the wrong way they gain weight.

I little bit of effective weight training goes a long way burning calories when your not weight training.
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