Firstram
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Ex still nailed it
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arse_sidewards
Contrary to my ass
I know how it works. But it's still overall an inferior result/product. The fact that the goal was to make more room in the budget to tolerate UAW scumbaggery or some other questionable thing doesn't make it somehow a success.I realize the new car market may be an abstract concept to you but, believe it or not, auto makers constantly shittify assemblies to encheapenate them to remain cost-competitive. The euphemism commonly used for this inferiorizing process is "value engineering". The folks that bought the vehicle new and didn't have to think about that hose clamp for the entire time they owned it got their value out of it.
Between lower part cost, faster assembly time, fewer assembly line tools requiring calibration, and lower instance of post-sale leaks (which would add warranty cost), that constant-tension clamp & similar "innovations" made that car ~$500 cheaper to produce than the same product using 20 year older technologies. I hope you, being a bona-fide cheapass, can appreciate that paying $500 less for a car would leave you budgetary room to replace all the hose clamps with shiny new stainless ones from VatoZone if you really wanted to
I'd say you should be ashamed of yourself for being so stupid as to peddle that shit but we all know you don't believe what you're spewing you're just
. . . and you're not the paying customer, so your opinion means . . . approximately . . . dick
Given that your opinion is effectively moot vis-à-vis new automobiles, I chose to skip the rest of your bullshit response
EDIT: you ignorant fuck
MuntCuffin
Upgrayedded user
Freightliner has started using plastic collars that you have to cut off when you need to pull a hose, change a thermostat, or swap a busted radiator.I realize the new car market may be an abstract concept to you but, believe it or not, auto makers constantly shittify assemblies to encheapenate them to remain cost-competitive. The euphemism commonly used for this inferiorizing process is "value engineering". The folks that bought the vehicle new and didn't have to think about that hose clamp for the entire time they owned it got their value out of it.
Between lower part cost, faster assembly time, fewer assembly line tools requiring calibration, and lower instance of post-sale leaks (which would add warranty cost), that constant-tension clamp & similar "innovations" made that car ~$500 cheaper to produce than the same product using 20 year older technologies. I hope you, being a bona-fide cheapass, can appreciate that paying $500 less for a car would leave you budgetary room to replace all the hose clamps with shiny new stainless ones from VatoZone if you really wanted to
I mean, I get it. Those plastic collars have 300k miles on em....but damn.
subybaja
E. Spengler
Subaru uses those damn one time use clamps you have to cut off. Good thing they’re on the valve cover, something you never have to take off.
Not the generation I worry about! I'm still with Arse's pickle bails. I tried to swap out to worm drive, and they leaked. After 5 tightenings over a week, I went back to wire.
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[486]
ugh, that guy again?
have you ever installed a brand new hose that has never been smushed before?Which still begs the question why the difference in ratio. I get that you're not dealing in 30yo cars so that biases things a bit but still, you'd think if anyone were fucking up the worm gear clamps it'd be the shade tree guys like me and not the supposedly reputable professionals like yourself.
Maybe put down the 1/4 rattle gun and your worm clamps will work better.
they do loosen up a li'l over time until they settle in
arse_sidewards
Contrary to my ass
Tons of times. I never have problems.
Car I'm driving today actually has all new (less than 5yo hoses) including heater circuit and shit.
[486]
ugh, that guy again?
dunno bro, happens all the time, doesn't even help to crank clamps down retard tight initiallyTons of times. I never have problems.
Car I'm driving today actually has all new (less than 5yo hoses) including heater circuit and shit.
arse_sidewards
Contrary to my ass
I don't do retard tight because I'm afraid of popping the stamped sheet-metal. I do "really tight" with a screwdriver or "not very right" with my 1/4 stubby ratchet.
I have NEVER had a worm gear clamp leak (except when knowingly using doing shit wrong). IDK, maybe I just have the magic touch.
Go check the torque on them now, even if you don’t admit it, I bet that some of them are loose.I don't do retard tight because I'm afraid of popping the stamped sheet-metal. I do "really tight" with a screwdriver or "not very right" with my 1/4 stubby ratchet.
I have NEVER had a worm gear clamp leak (except when knowingly using doing shit wrong). IDK, maybe I just have the magic touch.
Ummduh
Red Skull Member
I don't do retard tight because I'm afraid of popping the stamped sheet-metal. I do "really tight" with a screwdriver or "not very right" with my 1/4 stubby ratchet.
I have NEVER had a worm gear clamp leak (except when knowingly using doing shit wrong). IDK, maybe I just have the magic touch.
Ditto, I've never once in my entire life thus far, had to go back and retighten a worm clamp.
Ditchrunner
Red Skull Member
I have, but was it me, the clamp, the hose or some combination of dumbfuckery?
i've retightened worm clamps after heat cycles.
I've also had constant tension clamps break from rust.
if you all would stop driving poverty shit you'd have stainless oeticker style clamps from the factory
I've also had constant tension clamps break from rust.
if you all would stop driving poverty shit you'd have stainless oeticker style clamps from the factory
arse_sidewards
Contrary to my ass
I bypassed the P/S cooler on the Grand Cherocar because it has those and one is leaking.if you all would stop driving poverty shit you'd have stainless oeticker style clamps from the factory
subybaja
E. Spengler
Check.
Ransil
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I bought one of those at the SCORE show 34 years ago, think I still have it.Check.
BigMopar440
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Never seen that before. What's it called and how does it work?
Clamptite is the OG brand. It lets you make clamps from wire.
A bit fiddly, but nice results and good for oddball clamping or binding needs.
Sceep
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I'm pretty sure I've seen a homebuilt one on here
BigMopar440
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Time to check HF.
Been doing that for eons...Gates makes them, "freeze clamps"...mostly saw Schnieder trucks spec'd with them.
Field replacement are heat shrink.
Theres a fancy cutter youre supposed to use to remove them, but I'd only seen two in real life, most techs just went after them with whatever sharp thing they had...no biggie if you were replacing the hose anyway. 99% of the time they got replaced with a standard clamp.
Muckin_Slusher
****
You can literally build those wire clamp tools out of any random piece of garbage steel you find in the dirt.
...and arse made fun of me for using those on my unimog.
or make art...
...and arse made fun of me for using those on my unimog.
or make art...
eraser5
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There are some versions for under $30.
Just the first result to pop up.
subybaja
E. Spengler
arse_sidewards
Contrary to my ass
Double or nothing.
Loaded that POS onto the trailer and one of the lowers fucked off.
Loaded that POS onto the trailer and one of the lowers fucked off.