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Bebop said:
I don't understand the second sentence.
Do you want me to design and have a CNC shop machine me some custom spindles? Why?

I'm using the UBs in a FRONT application. I cannot tell you how long a Dana 80 or sterling spindle last in this application. And we're trying to get away from 8x6.5 bolt pattern anyway.


Not linked to the UB lifespan, but yes.
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Sorry, I read that as you wear out BJ's not UB's. My mistake.

Whats the reason you are moving away from 8x6.5? Don't have to re-drill the UB?
 
arse_sidewards said:
My point is that if longevity is actually an issue you are two drive flanges and two chunks of billet away from sticking whatever spindle/hub/bearing combo is proven to be sufficient on there. Not rocket science.

But it's not. You're running the UB because it's cheap, easy and replaceable.
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Longevity isn't an issue. I wish they lasted longer but I don't really care.
I was answering mobil1syn who said that 8 lugs do not belong on trail rigs. I just don't know what other option he was thinking about.

Now to entertain your idea of custom spindles, I also would have to change the CVs and outer shafts. There is 0 reason to do such a thing, especially with the C's and Knuckles I'm running. It makes no sense at all.

665.0coupe said:
Sorry, I read that as you wear out BJ's not UB's. My mistake.

Whats the reason you are moving away from 8x6.5? Don't have to re-drill the UB?
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I like 8x6.5. I can share wheels with my friends easily.
I was answering mobil1syn who said that 8 lugs do not belong on trail rigs. I just don't know what other option he was thinking about.
 
Bebop said:
Now to entertain your idea of custom spindles, I also would have to change the CVs and outer shafts. There is 0 reason to do such a thing, especially with the C's and Knuckles I'm running. It makes no sense at all.
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Custom axles are custom axles. If you're building from the ground up then and need custom axles already then that doesn't change much.

I'm not strongly advocating for a traditional spindle and hub setup. I'm just saying that if the '05+ was insufficient there's a whole bunch of other stuff that can be used.
 
arse_sidewards said:
Custom axles are custom axles. If you're building from the ground up then and need custom axles already then that doesn't change much.
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Uhhhh that doesn't work that way.
If you have to get custom outer shafts it's a significantly larger amount of money than getting custom inner shafts and using readily available outers.

arse_sidewards said:
I'm not strongly advocating for a traditional spindle and hub setup. I'm just saying that if the '05+ was insufficient there's a whole bunch of other stuff that can be used.
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I understand that. And the logical step up would be rockwell based spindle/hubs or Spidertrax. Not a custom system.

Plus ther fact that I don't have the tools or knowledge to design such system.
 
Bebop said:
I like 8x6.5. I can share wheels with my friends easily.
I was answering mobil1syn who said that 8 lugs do not belong on trail rigs. I just don't know what other option he was thinking about.
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I think he might have been refering to the fact that most trail rigs are still 6 or 5 on 5.5, which you can't do with the 05+ stuff, but is possible with the 99-04 unit bearings. I'm pretty sure that is why Currie has kept them, it makes it easier to sell axles to the jeep crowd.
 
Ghetto Fab. said:
I think he might have been refering to the fact that most trail rigs are still 6 or 5 on 5.5, which you can't do with the 05+ stuff, but is possible with the 99-04 unit bearings. I'm pretty sure that is why Currie has kept them, it makes it easier to sell axles to the jeep crowd.
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correct, as much as i would love to run the 05+ 8-lug is not an option for me.

Bebop said:
He said

I don't see why ? 8 lug / One Ton axles have been the standard setup under trail buggies forever.
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if building from scratch 8 lug is lame. if you doing a junkyard build then, then show out.
 
mobil1syn said:
if building from scratch 8 lug is lame.
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The only way to get 99-04 shit that holds is spidertrax at $1400 per corner and there are no knuckles that accept big bells with this setup.

I don't see why it's lame to want a strong setup that's financially affordable and lets you use standard wheels.
 
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I thought about building the rear 9" for my rig as a semi-float 35 spline. Very common and fairly economical and lightweight.
but
That locked me into machined kingpin hubs or 99-04 unit bearings and brakes for the front to use a 5.5" bolt pattern. I have done the custom machined components in the past. It is a burden I don't want again.
I decided to continue to go 35 spline but jump to 05 units and cups. I have to buy wheels regardless and can be 8-170mm or 8-6.5 by drilling. I'm committing to the 8-170mm in case I need a unit bearing in a pinch. Just bolt on a parts store replacement.
The thing that gives me confidence it I have the ability to go 40 spline if ever needed.
 
I'm not a fan of LP 9" anything on a crawler unless you are flipping them to reverse the rotation. They put the pinion and driveshat so low that it seems like and strength you gain using a LP 9" is lost with the vulnerability of the low hanging driveshaft, yolk and pinion.
 
SLOWPOKE693 said:
I'm not a fan of LP 9" anything on a crawler unless you are flipping them to reverse the rotation. They put the pinion and driveshat so low that it seems like and strength you gain using a LP 9" is lost with the vulnerability of the low hanging driveshaft, yolk and pinion.
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I mean, a 14 bolt isn't much better
 
That is a concern of mine. I plan to use a double cardan rear driveshaft. This would point the rear pinion up which will help some.
Forged flanges / yoke and maybe a pinion guard.
Rear driveshafts can get hit on most rear axles anyway.
 
mobil1syn said:
correct, as much as i would love to run the 05+ 8-lug is not an option for me.



if building from scratch 8 lug is lame. if you doing a junkyard build then, then show out.
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Whining about removing and installing 2 extra lug nuts on a trail rig is lame :flipoff2:

Not to mention, if you're talking custom big boy stuff 6x6.5 would be the go to and obviously totally possible on 05+ outters
 
YotaAtieToo said:
Whining about removing and installing 2 extra lug nuts on a trail rig is lame :flipoff2:

Not to mention, if you're talking custom big boy stuff 6x6.5 would be the go to and obviously totally possible on 05+ outters
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I mean, if I re-drilled the 05+ UBs to 6x6.5 instead of 8x6.5, does that make me cool ?
 
Bebop said:
4 x 6.5 !!!!

New cool kid club !

Weight reduction brahhhh

Edit : TrailTamer should get full credit for this idea. He is moving the sport forward.
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Mocked up yesterday :flipoff2::lmao:

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But this will work better
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RustyC said:
Yes but it's that weird "west coast" cool. :lmao: We don't get the used dezert race parts over here.
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A while back I saw more than 1 set of cheap 6x6.5 wheels pop up, cheap enough that I thought about redrilling my 60s :laughing:

I feel like with 8x6.5, you could leave 2 studs and just drill and tap the other 4, then run thread in studs. If 6x5.5, I feel like a 3/4-1" thick adapter wouldn't be horrible either since a lot of those wheels have pretty deep back spacing anyway.
 
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